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  1. I'm planning on doing an overdue update/revision to this "Ford Vehicle Ordering & Scheduling Process" topic that will also include information on the new Retail Order Verification Process, Vehicle Visibility, WBDO and any other matters that are directly related to the ordering and scheduling process. My intent is to replace the existing content with the most recent information and provide it as a resource tool only for the information and not a discussion thread. If members have questions about specific model ordering, scheduling, production or tracking they should be be posted in the forums for the specific vehicle models so that they can be addressed appropriately. If possible, I'll have the updates done within the next week.
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  2. Yeah well the President is buddying up to Russia (something he they accused 45 of doing) and making friends with China so that ain't going away any time soon. At risk of sounding like a conspiratorial nut job, I wonder if all of this is just a means to an end. And with that I'll get off of politics.
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  3. wrong...they are actually one of the best off...although that's not saying much...and youre also incorrect regarding pricing...no one I know of is selling below MSRP. Where the hell do you get your bogus information....www.troll.com? Hows that Transit deal coming along?
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  4. Unfortunately, many sales representatives don't know much about retail factory orders or the process. traditionally, they're trained to sell from stock but with the low inventory now you'd think they'd want every retail order they could get from a customer like yourself that knows what they want. Please let us know how you make out and let us know if there's any other information you need.
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  5. Unless you live in Central Ohio and you're like "where the hell is there a mountain?"
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  6. The recent ransomware attacks are just a test for what what we may see next for critical sectors. China and Russia are not our friends and will exploit any weakness to take it all to the highest level of impact.
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  7. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ford drop sync on entry level versions in favor of CarPlay/ AA with the 8” screen and offer connected Navigation only. Come to think of it, with the Ford pass connect now standard they could switch SiriusXM to an app or the user could stream it via CP/AA. Built in nav is just about dead.
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  8. In Brazil they downgraded the Sync 3 to a Sync 2.5, as it has been called unofficially, in entry vehicles. It looks very similar to Sync 3 but it loses some features - don't know exactly which ones.
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  9. This is how retail orders should always work.
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  10. By the way, does everyone recognize the logistics associated with ethanol? While gasoline and diesel typical gets into the downstream distribution system via pipelines, you can't ship ethanol in a pipeline. It moves inland via railcar or truck to the distribution terminal-or via barge/ship to a marine terminal. At the distribution terminal it is stored in a separate tankage/piping system and is pumped to the tank truck loading rack where it is additized on line through an automated blending system that mixes the proper ratio of ethanol to gasoline. So when you think about E15 or E85 blends, don't lose sight of the logistics cost to get that ethanol blend to the consumer. For what its worth?
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  11. Thx-so that says for every 100 gallons of gas you would need 5 of E85 or a lesser amount of neat ethanol-not an unrealistic combination assuming say a medium duty F-750 in vocational use might get say 8-10 mpg. Using the worst case of 8, that would mean a range of 800 miles-something that very few class 7 vocational trucks might see in a week, never mind in a shift. Make it 5 mpg-a 500 mile range is still a lot for a class 7 vocational truck. I recognize that you and other very technically savy people have offered reasons why an Ecoboost 7.3 would not be practical but I continue to focus on the high cost of a 6.7 Power Stroke from a first cost basis as well as a maintenance CPM given DEF issues, oil changes etc. Something must be motivating Ford to look at a "boosted" 7.3.
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  12. Here is your modern day "Ford compact sedan", folks. Many will get bed covers, so that will be its 'trunk'.
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  13. Ford Dealers can submit vehicle orders via either the traditional CONCEPS ordering system or the newer WBDO (Web Based Dealer Ordering) system. Fleet orders and/or specification changes must be made via CONCEPS. The WBDO system only accepts stock (Dealer Stock, Demonstrator) orders and all variations of retail orders (Retail, A/X/D Plan, Etc.). Both ordering systems generate error notices and will not display pricing information until any errors are corrected. The CONCEPS ordering system requires the Dealer to manually enter all the order codes… Year, Body Code, Priority Code, Option Codes, etc. The newer WBDO system uses plain language descriptions, etc. and only displays options available for that vehicle’s Model Year, Body Code & Order Code. Retail orders using the WBDO system default to Priority Code “19”. Dealers assign priority codes to each order based on the Order Type. Stock orders are assigned priority codes 20-80, retail orders are assigned priority codes 10-19. Fleet orders are assigned special alpha numeric codes that represent a requested production week. The priority codes determine the order for which vehicle orders are to be selected and/or considered for scheduling. This overview doesn’t consider commodity issues (model, powertrain or option scheduling restrictions) that may be in place for a scheduling week. Commodity issues and/or restrictions can apply at either or both the regional and national levels. The highest priority that a Dealer can use for a retail order is 10. An order with a “10” priority code will schedule ahead of an order with an “11” priority code, etc. This allows Dealers to prioritize the order in which vehicles are scheduled, especially when a Dealer may have multiple retail orders in the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank). With the WBDO ordering system, retail orders default to priority code “19” so it’s important that a Dealer change the priority code to a lower number if they want the order to be considered for scheduling earlier compared to other orders. Ford provides Dealers with a schedule for vehicle allocation each week on Monday mornings which shows how many vehicles of each model line that the Dealer has allocation for scheduling that week. That same weekly allocation report also includes information on any regional commodity issues or restrictions. On Monday afternoons, the Scheduling Toolbox Report is released which provides more detailed information on commodity issues and scheduling availability on a national basis. On Tuesday mornings, the AM Scheduling Preview Report is available to show Dealers which vehicle orders have been selected or previewed, on an initial basis, to be selected for scheduling that week. The same report is updated and available on Wednesday morning to show any changes based on commodity issues that may have changed. On Wednesday afternoon, the Regional Scheduler issues a notice informing Dealers of the vehicle specifications available for scheduling for orders not already showing on the AM Preview Report. This provides Dealers with information on what vehicle specifications are available for scheduling should they have orders showing on the AM Preview Report that are not what the Dealer wants. Ford generates what are called “SIMS Orders” each week which are Ford’s suggested orders based on commodity information available at the time. If a Dealer has vehicle allocation for scheduling that week and has no Dealer orders in the USOB or orders that don’t meet the commodity restrictions in place for that week, the scheduling system will default to trying to schedule SIMS (Smart Inventory Management System) orders if they meet any commodity restrictions in place. The SIMS orders are available to Dealers online Monday mornings and in print form on Tuesday mornings. Dealers can enter their own vehicle orders or change the Ford generated SIMS orders. Ford Dealers earn vehicle scheduling allocation each month based on reported vehicle sales, current inventory, projected sales, etc. Each month, Dealers usually meet with their Ford Zone Manager to review the allocation offered for scheduling the following month. A Dealer can accept the suggested allocation per vehicle line or change their commitment. Should a Dealer want more allocation than offered for a vehicle line, they can submit a request for supplemental allocation which will be considered based on total allocation available and commitments from other Dealers in their Zone. There are times when Dealers accept less allocation than offered for a vehicle line which makes that allocation available to other Dealers that may be looking for additional inventory. At other times, a Dealer may want more allocation for a vehicle line than Ford has offered. A supplemental allocation request is how Dealers can get allocation for extra inventory. A Dealer needs allocation each week for scheduling for each vehicle line. Even without allocation for a vehicle line, Ford is pretty good at trying to schedule retail orders even when a Dealer doesn’t have allocation that week. When a Dealer knows that they don’t have scheduling allocation, it’s always a good idea for them to provide the retail order information (Body Code & Order Number) to their Ford Zone Manager and the Regional Scheduler. The Regional Scheduler can reprioritize the retail order to priority code “01” which basically forces the Ford scheduling system to schedule the unit ASAP unless extreme commodity restrictions prevent the scheduling. When a Dealer doesn’t have allocation, the Ford Zone Manager may try to get the allocation from another Dealer that is willing to give up their allocation. Ford scheduling is done on Thursday’s but at times scheduling may be carried over to Friday’s due to scheduling, commodity or other issues. Vehicle scheduling confirmations are available on Friday mornings for allocation scheduled on Thursday. With only a few exceptions (Focus RS, EcoSport, Transit Connect) VIN numbers are generated at the time that an order is “Submitted to Plant” for scheduling. The initial scheduling information will show an order scheduled for a production week. Afterwards, the information will be updated to show production for a particular date. Along the process, the vehicle order status information will be updated along with the ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) at the dealership. Years ago, the ordering process was much easier, with few or limited commodity issues to deal with. Ford’s vehicle scheduling was mostly driven by scheduling and building vehicles based on Dealer orders to meet Market demands. For a number of years now, the ordering process has become more complex and time consuming based on the constantly changing commodity issues and restrictions. It is now not uncommon for allocation to roll over to the following week because manufacturing can’t accurately forecast how many vehicles can be scheduled for production. In many cases, it seems that either because of vendor supply issues or other factors that Ford skews vehicle scheduling to higher content models in order to maximize corporate profits rather than scheduling vehicle production to meet Dealers orders or Market demand. The overall vehicle order process, scheduling and status updates is listed below for reference. · Dealer places order into the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) · When Dealer has vehicle allocation for scheduling, orders are scheduled based on Order Type, Priority Code and commodity restrictions. o Scheduled vehicle orders display as “Submitted to Plant” on the Dealer’s daily schedule status report. o Vehicle orders are assigned a VIN number when scheduled except for certain vehicle lines (EcoSport, Focus RS, Transit Connect) o The initial vehicle scheduling notice will include information for the scheduled week of production. The initial ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) is usually provided within a few days of the scheduling notice. o Dealers can change vehicle specifications for a scheduled vehicle up until the vehicle is “locked in” for production or about two weeks prior to the scheduled build date. Specifications for certain vehicle lines (EcoSport, Focus RS, etc.) cannot be changed once scheduled. § Dealers are limited to making 6 changes to scheduled orders. § Dealers cannot change Order Type, Body Code, Order Code (Package/Trim Level) · Vehicle order is next updated with a scheduled production date. · Vehicle goes into production and shows as “Sent to Plant” on the Dealer’s daily status report. o Vehicle invoices and window stickers are generated and available to Dealers at about this time. · Dealer’s daily status report shows updates on production status. · Vehicle status updated to “Produced” · Vehicle status updated to “Released” meaning that the vehicle has been released for shipment. · Vehicle is loaded on rail car. Dealer is provided with carrier information (Canadian National, Norfolk Sothern, etc.) along with the actual rail car number. · Vehicle status is updated to show arrival at the final rail destination (Ramp 41/Newark, NJ) · Vehicle is received by the car carrier (Fleet Car, Diversified Automotive, etc.) for delivery to the dealership. · Vehicle is delivered to the dealership. Dealers have access to the “Vehicle Visibility” application which provides status updates on a 24/7 basis for any vehicle order. This information is provided to answer the most often asked questions about the vehicle ordering process by the Ford enthusiasts that are members of the Blue Oval Forums. I’ll update this information as conditions warrant.
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  14. The Scale of COVID Unemployment Fraud Is ASTOUNDING – PJ Media Ok there`s no way one side of the aisle didn`t know this shit wasn`t going to happen, come on...it was and is free money with no strings attached..... then wonder way the "help wanted signs are every frickin where". Then if you have time scroll down to the video where a serving parent of the Mao Chinese years explains the similarities of what she lived through under the Mao doctrine and the CRT. I know... I know decker has to be a beget, white supremist, anti Semitic or maybe just a plain foebiccy type... cause this gotta be fake news, right? (CAP is cranking up Monday sooo that should slow down these goofy posts) Naaa don`t bet on it
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  15. Any changes made will generate the new prices but a retail order is still price protected to the prices in effect the date that the retail order was originally placed. Changes to the order won't affect the price protection. When your Dealer reports the sale to Ford after you take delivery, they submit a claim to Ford for the price protection adjustment.
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  16. thx brother...tell the truth Im used to it...the Fiesta ST we ordered was White with the Recaros with the red inserts....for whatever reason it too took over 5months from order date...Im hexed....lol. Itll come...how long will be interesting...
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  17. The current D&D charge for a 2021 Explorer which is also built at CAP (Chicago Assembly Plant) is $1,245.
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  18. I would be surprised if that's the case. If it has a touch screen it is 99% going to be Sync 3. There really is no other option. Will there be an optional Sync 3 that maybe opens up the capability (Navigation)? Maybe. If you look a Doug's video (link below), you see he has an XLT and it appears to be Sync 3 (looks basic) and he references it. He says all Mavericks will be equipped with Android Auto/Apple Carplay.
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  19. Copied and pasted in an email to my salesman. Let’s see what he does now, lol. Thank you for the information and taking the time.
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  20. Per the latest FDNB (Fleet Distribution News Bulletin) here's the timetable for the 2021/2022MY Lincoln Aviator. 03/05/2021 - 2021MY Fleet Final Order Due Date 03/11/2021 - 2021MY Last Day to Spec Change 07/30/2021 - 2021MY Balance Out Date 03/15/2021 - 2022MY Order Bank Open Date 06/17/2021 - 2022MY Scheduling Begins 07/30/2021 - 2022MY Job #1 Date The USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) opened on 03/15/2021 and all Lincoln Dealers have been able to submit all order types (Stock, Retail, Fleet) since that time. 2022MY Lincoln Aviator scheduling is now due to start on Thursday, June 17th. I'll know better tomorrow about the scheduling start when Ford posts the scheduling plan preview for next week. That information will be available in the Production Week Scheduling Information topic that I update weekly.
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  21. This from a book, that I didn`t start and just put down to forget.... According to legend, upon exiting the Constitutional Convention—where the now eighty-one-year-old Ben Franklin had just successfully lobbied his fellow Founding Fathers to ratify the US Constitution—he was confronted by a group of citizens wondering what sort of government the delegates had given these new United States of America. A republic, if you can keep it, Franklin is said to have famously answered. In other words, his generation had fulfilled its mission. It was now time for a new generation to answer history’s call to fulfill theirs, with independence already boldly declared and then successfully defended. These colonies were now free and independent states, further codified into law by the passing of the Tenth Amendment one year after the Constitution itself, which states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Those twenty-eight words were the final words written into the Bill of Rights, which were the very first amendments to the Constitution. They are merely twenty-eight words, but they pack a wallop. For they reinforce, once more both bluntly and plainly, the original premise of our Constitution that makes it unique in all of human history—this governing document was meant to limit the power of the federal government, not the freedom of those it governs. As a generation, the Founding Fathers (<---I`m sure that will offend someone) had two things in common—a reverential fear of God and a fear of too much power placed in the hands of fallible/fallen human beings. One of the textbooks popular during the years when many of them were being educated was called Cato’s Letters. It is full of admonitions like this one: The love of power is natural. It is insatiable, it is whetted, not cloyed by possession. Power renders man wanton, insolent of others, and fond of themselves.¹ Enter Anthony Fauci. There will always be the questions (I`m full of them) you know the "the why`s", "what`s in it for them", "their motives" and "how did they do that" ? When we all know there are two completely to the point and absolute answers.... "greed" and "power", Period.
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  22. Hmmm, one of Granny Pelosi`s squad members giving up some true feelings…. 12 Dem`s react to the squad member`s rant. I can almost hear Granny ranting to the squad, 2022 is just around the corner children so not it the frick off you spoiled brat`s. But of course not out where anyone may hear the rant, most likely in one of the House of Representatives little girls rooms.
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  23. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/attending-her-last-g-7-030017080.html So Angela Merkel has had enough of US leadership? Want a bigger share of G7 and NATO leadership? Pony up some money. The Orange Man was demonized in the press for asking The EU NATO "powers" to do an agreed upon fair share. I'm sure Biden will gladly share power, foot the bill with our dollars, and defend the wretched mess with US Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen (Airpersons?).
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  24. Dealers could start submitting orders of all types as soon as the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) opened. Vehicle ordering and scheduling has nothing to do with what Ford displays at the Ford.com site. Ford started scheduling 2022 Super Duty retail orders on Thursday, June 3rd. Find another Dealer!
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  25. Came across this article the other day. Seems fitting: https://jalopnik.com/why-does-a-modern-truck-like-the-2022-ford-f-150-lightn-1846955635
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  26. Great info! Sorry I missed this. Thanks for the help!
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  27. Ford snags 100,000 F-150 Lightning pre-orders in three weeks As far as what's next, after debuting a sporty crossover, full electric workhorse and cheaper hybrid utility vehicle, CEO Jim Farley said the Explorer SUV is next on the block for electrification.
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  28. And that’s if the battery is completely full which isn’t likely unless you’ve been braking all the way down a mountain.
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  29. each day we have new spy pics haha https://fordauthority.com/2021/06/2022-lincoln-navigator-reserve-spotted-with-very-little-camouflage/ Lincoln show it already!!
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  30. I should have clarified… I gave them a deposit the day of ordering and Ford marketing has verified they see the order in the system. Its more of an allocation question than anything. Do retail orders and dealer stock orders pull from the same allocation that a dealer has available? Or are retail “custom” orders somehow exempt? I have a sinking feeling they are lying about their allocation possibly because they are such a small dealer? Smaller volume may mean less super duty allocation? Just speculation. microchip shortages and delays, I can deal with all day long. Lying and possibly getting a run around from my dealer, not so much.
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  31. agree, hope we can see soon something like this in a Lincoln:
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  32. When I read your post I was thinking how ice-capades was going to blow a gasket over this kind of BS. That kind of dealer is what gives Then the reputation of a shyster. IC knows his business and does it the right way.
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  33. Amen to that! I have learned a ton of information from ice on this forum. Thanks for all your help.
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  34. It`s come to this. Argentine President Alberto Fernandez had to apologies for his pride in his country`s diversity. What the hell is wrong with us...? just the social media addiction individuals can figure that out. "The Mexicans came from the Indians, the Brazilians came from the jungle, but we Argentines came from the ships. And they were ships that came from Europe," Fernandez said, referring to the many European migrants who arrived in the country. He later apologized for the comments and said his country's diversity was something to be proud of." "Fernandez seems to have taken the phrase from a song by local musician Lito Nebbia, of whom the President has declared himself an admirer on more than one occasion". "The comments sparked a viral response on social media, with many criticizing the center-left leader for racial insensitivity." "The Brazilian President's son, slammed the comments as "racist" and shot a retort back at Argentina (in general) over its troubled economy, that's been in a recession since 2018." Maybe someone should point out to the Brazilian President`s baby boy that diversity is pretty much wide spread in South America . The Languages that are Spoken in Brazil are pointing towards a bunch of ships... also. Portuguese - 97.9%. Portuguese is by far the biggest major language spoken in Brazil, with around 97.9% of the population speaking and learning this lanuage. German - 1.9%. Though the speakers only represent around 1.9% of the population, German is the second-most reported used and taught mainly in the homes. Indigenous Languages - 1.9%. is the indigenous languages of Brazil predate European. These are learned and used in the home and family settings. Coming off a ship ain`t all that bad, is it? Wait... the wokers, lefties, the no one can be a victim but us and pre judgmental herd thinks so and I mean if you don`t think that group isn`t right... look out!!!! for the tweeties, tubers, bookers and peaceful protestors...
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  35. That’s the thing with RHD, it’s easy to say not enough sales but, if you batch the countries together, the business case becomes viable. Aussie Ranger sells with a high trim mix of around 4,000 mostly crew cab 4x4s in the AUS$55k to $75k zone. nothing else in the Ford showroom sell worth a cracker - at best, 300-500 each per month. Vehicles like Maverick and Bronco Sport would add massive points of difference to competitors and make Ford stand out. Ford is liked because it’s American, not because it copies the same products as Europe or Asian makers.
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  36. The 1.5L isn't part of the 2022 Maverick and continued posts about it are off topic.
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  37. Wrong....have owned this hybrid for 14 months and mpg sweet spot is 60 mph highway with lights or slow downs every few miles which is common in populated, urban areas. Also braking over a long distance that gives you 100% charge. Frequently average over 60mpg over this type of driving environment.
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  38. Give it a rest. That opinion is not shared by others including actual Escape owners.
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  39. Escape hybrid also doesn't have the upgraded electric motor Maverick has yet. I'm sure that will come with the refresh.
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  40. Dwight, Ice Capades posts the needed info in the pinned thread "Product Information". Beyond that, nobody knows much. The Chip mfg that had the fire is back up and operating.
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  41. I ordered 4/1 F350 Supercab Lariat 7.3. Dealer placed it as a stock order so I received no emails from Ford. I found out Friday that it was scheduled for week of July 12
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  42. Ask him for a copy of the DORA for your order. It will list everything ordered, show priority, VIN is it's been assigned etc. Keep in mind this chip shortage has really screwed up production BUT I don't see why they would extend 2021s by 2 months for ordering.. if you can't get chips, you can't get them, regardless of a 21 or 22.
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  43. What's the percentage of these Chrysler FCA Stelantis "development leaks" that actually make it anywhere near production? I swear it seems like more than half of these are convenient vaporware placements to insist they aren't going tits up.
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  44. That's hardly the case. There are a lot of healthy discussions here at BOF with criticism of Ford, along with agreeing to disagree between those with opposing viewpoints. I think I have a high tolerance but get annoyed when disagreements become nothing more than a pissing match satisfying egos or some other agenda. And all too often the problems are with newer members trolling and not contributing anything productive to the site. And a lot of times I'll let things slide and not bother responding out of an abundance of caution to not overreact. My patience with disruptive behavior and other ongoing actions is wearing thin. To anyone reading this thinking I'm always pro-Ford, that could hardly be the case. I couldn't begin to count the number of times over the past 35 years that I expressed my criticisms of Ford in person to Ford representatives. I spend far too much time providing information to this site and assisting members on the public forums here and privately to be wasting my time with nonsense. I started a conversation with the other moderators a few months ago about behaviors on the site getting out of control. The result was that the moderators became more pro-active in taking action when it was necessary and that's something that's an ongoing process. As moderators, we act independently but share a common goal of maintaining and even improving the site's success by being the best resource for Ford customers and enthusiasts looking for information or assistance.
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  45. No one ever knows as it depends on how much prior year inventory is still in stock that they want to sell.
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  46. It is questionable if ford has leadership in pickups....really no indication here other than tesla can build shit and it will still sell....harley, jeep and add tesla to those iconic brands that proves one can build shit on name alone.....
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  47. I do like amazon, they have a really nice website and service. I'm also a fan of The Boys and The Expanse on prime video. That said, I have recently started to buy directly from manufacturers and traditional retailers like Crutchfield, bhphotovideo, Sonix Electronix, etc. When you bypass amazon, more of your money goes directly to the seller. I still shop at amazon, but I try to support my local businesses first and then diversify my online shopping.
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