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Absolute hogwash. That may be what greenies want but the average vehicle buyer doesn’t feel that way. Just the opposite in fact. If Ford has the BEV models and platforms and batteries they can ramp up EVs and ramp down ICE based on actual customer demand and/or government regulations. Its the smartest play right now.

Not sure why Ford decided to eat their Wheaties on my order but this is coming along much more quickly than I thought. It looks like I will be stalling to pick it up so I can get 90 days membership for X plan pricing to be eligible. 1st world problems I guess. Happy belated Thanksgiving to all of you and Merry upcoming Christmas!

It was interesting to watch the questions regarding the complexity of hoses for the cooling system, comparing it to the much simpler Tesla cooling system, suggesting that a lot of clamps and hoses could be eliminated, only to discover that the whole system is common from C2 hybrid/PHEV. It was actually cheaper for Ford to use an existing system/supplier than to build and make something unique for Mach E, remembering it started out as the E C-Max….

Bullshit. If that was really the case being shut down due to covid for 3 months last year would have bankrupted at least one of them. Instead profits not only continued but actually grew as we came out of it.

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Hello! Waiting for my 22 F150 ordered end of October

I have the same order form and my name is on it. First name initial and full last name.

Dude I would be furious ? ? with them..I was prepared to wait 6 months but now it looks like 9 weeks from order to delivery

No. VIN number is available from your Dealer via the Vehicle Visibility report which will also include the rail carrier information and rail car number when t's been loaded. https://shop.ford.com/vehicleordertracking#/

WBDO requires First Initial and Last Name for which there is a maximum length.

Update: As akirby suggested i purchased a Solar BA9 tester. I received "ok's" across the board with "recharge" notation meaning "the battery is good but needs to be charged". The battery test had a result of 12.32v and 869 CCA. The cranking/starting test without loads registered 14.60 to 14.70v, with load 13.4v and a "ripple" of 0.14. Again everything showed "ok", tomorrow i will take it on a 120 mile round trip to Las Cruces and then test it again in a couple of days. Thanks for the help everyone.

Interesting post. I wonder if more females will be willing to buy BEVs than males. I suspect so once prices start moderating. Maybe safer to charge up at home and work rather than gas up at some sketchy gas station in the dark. Also less maintenance and dealing with service people who see female customers as more vulnerable to deception.

I don’t know about Sandy Munro other than that he seems to be very respected and has seen a lot. I do however remember when the Big 3 were sacked by the Japanese invasion in the 70’s. I even remember the first Toyota I ever rode in. The first Japanese vehicle I owned was a ‘73 Mazda B1600 in about 1982. Big difference between that and a normal F150 but it fit my needs perfectly. I remember spending the summer of 1972 in Italy and saw first hand what a small engine/small exterior/large interior volume cars looked like and what they could do. Even as an 11 year old kid that summer I knew we were doing it wrong at least for people that just needed basic transportation. That Toyota? That was ‘74/‘75 ish. We (meaning Detroit) should’ve been able to guess where things were going when we started getting the Beetle here and it took off. Ford probably came the closest in 1960 with the 144” Falcon but that quickly got bigger and fatter. I still remember Dorothy Claire (my best friend’s mom) shifting her three on the tree ‘61 Falcon on our way to the department stores. I give GM a lot of credit for the Corvair but it never seemed like just basic transportation it was more of a “one up” on VW. We completely missed it by 1973. Even though I have a fondness for cars like the Maverick, Pinto and Mustang II, Ford could’ve been the best of the Big 3 if they never built those and simply Federalized the Cortina and Escort. The 1.6 Kent then later the 2.0 EAO would’ve become as popular as the small block Chevy of the 1970’s. Ford had good cars that were perfect for the times but they would not sell them to us. There were exceptions of course and each one was a smash hit. The Capri had a cult following, the Pantera did as well and the Ford Fiesta arguably the best and certainly the quickest car in Ford’s lineup in the late 70’s. What does this have to do with EV’s today? Well I have noticed that the usual haters and curmudgeons that “will never give up their gas powered muscle car” come up with countless ways to resist the future kicking and screaming. They are like that until their wife comes home and says, “honey I went shopping with Joanie today and I was just so impressed with her little EV (insert any name here), she said she never has to go to the gas station and if it breaks down (although very unlikely) the technician comes to her. No dealership hassles!” “Honey I think I’d like to trade in my Goliath SUV because Joanie could fit all our packages right inside just as well” So Kevin the caveman gives in and takes a ride in an EV and notices they go pretty good and the body lines ain’t that bad and you know “I saw a concrete contractor putting up forms last week and the whole jobsite was lit up by his F150 Lighting”. ”It was way past 9:00 PM and there was no generator sound at all”. “I wonder if I can get a Maverick or Ranger Lightning with an off road package? That’d be nice when we go camping” The point of all this nonsense is rather than being smugly resistant like so many traditionalists always are I think this great transportation and energy storage reset should be viewed as renewed opportunity rather than some of the things I’ve heard it called. Not here but in a lot of the reading and listening I’ve been doing. Random thoughts I know but just being a distant casual observer and not an insider it’s all I can offer at this point.

You should confirm the order specifications and status with your Dealer. Don't rely on Ford e-mail communications to be accurate regarding specific information.

Yes, pretty much the same exact info I'm getting on wait times. and the VIN and other info you provided. I have a great salesman that I trust, but he seems to get "updated" info/changes to status on a semi-regular basis and I do not not wish to bug him every week. As I only have until tomorrow to wait to see if it actually goes into production this time, I will have an interesting night's sleep. Your additional info is really appreciated! Either retail or in stock...I'm getting this truck!

Sandy Munro is projecting genius, which to some regular people could be perceived as anger or craziness.

Savvy gm dealers will order lots of these:

He may be crazy but he’s in good company.

None of the 200,000 Lightning reservations are being forced into a BEV, there’s lots of willing people out there. And I’m lead to believe, that 200,000 figure doesn’t include fleet orders, how many more will there be with $12,000 tax credit? I can’t wait to see what the response to a BEV Explorer/Aviator will be……..things are really looking good for Ford

Thats the way it's supposed to work though, not forced upon us by those in charge who act like they know everything.

But then again, driving a Tesla is exactly what changed my opinion on EVs.

Yes they deconstructed the Mach E and did some consulting on things they found that they thought could be improved. Very interesting because they found a lot they liked. I think Ford did a pretty good job.

I received a email from Ford for the first rescheduling. The last two reschedule emails from Ford came immediately after I prompted my dealer to check the VVR. I call the dealer the 1st of every month. I am starting to think when the dealer pulls up a VVR it prompts Ford to send a email update? I haven’t called the dealer yet (but will Dec 1). I will bet I then get my email from Ford stating my 11/22 build date has been changed to 12/13. Kind of piss poor communication.

Wtf? That’s frustrating to say the least!?

Munro does like the sound of his own voice. He also declared the BMW I-3 "the most significant car since the Motel T." Can't buy it in the U.S. anymore, it's been discontinued.

Both of which Ford is doing, you should add.

My thoughts. 1. Munro is approaching crazy old man territory when it comes to Tesla. I didn't watch this video but I did watch one where he went off on NHSTA for dating to look into the safety (or lack there of) of autopilot and FSD. He is blinded by the gee whizz factor and seems to have lost his sound engineering judgement and ethics which would dictate that you don't release beta software into the public which when it fails can cause death. 2. Tesla's Z score is entirely driven by their insane market capitalization driven entirely by zealots without regard to actual fundamentals.

Rivian could be just driving those 3 cars on the car hauler back and forth on the highway as a form of advertising...lol

same here,, original build 10-25 then 11-2 then 11-9 then 11-22 in the last email. I asked cyberdman and he looked it up and he shows a build date of 12-13 now but no email from Ford that stats that but its only been about 3 weeks since cyberdman looked it up so ford obviously hasnt had the time to let me know.. LOL.. Cyberdman is way more accurate and reliable than Ford has been.

I do and I think that was intentional on his part.

That's like saying I need to sit on the seat naked because if I wear pants, they are useless.

My delivery Jonel

I got my F-350 XLT in September, but wanted to wait until the vinyl was applied before posting pics. I'll spare the interior pics, but you get the idea. Wonder if Ford will ever offer this as a factory option again?

Don’t know the answer specifically …. But after a summer and fall of many down weeks due to the chip shortage. Our facility ( an engine plant) is back to full 3 shifts working with no down weeks. I think they’re getting a handle on things. Not 100% yet. But I think the log jam is definitely moving.

Aka "let's pretend they're a different company to jump on the overvalued bandwagon". That'd be stupid to split it off.

I bought a 3 door 86 hatchback - their first model year. I was fresh out of college and they were still selling 86 models in spring of 87 so got an incredible deal. That was one of my favorite cars. Had to trade it for a Ranger 3 years later.

A big bowl of meh

I switched to the ultimate lariat and added the led lights. Kept the trailer assist tho. I love the 360 view. Don’t really plan to use the knob to back the 5er but whatever. I also added upfitter switches cause why the hell not. I can use them to turn on the dc to dc charger on the camper. These forums are a bad influence. Now I have ambient lighting and fancy stuff.