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I've done some house cleaning and consolidation and added in a few new items to take notice of. Please review the items below for changes / updates. 1.) I request that you subscribe to this thread if you haven't already. Click the little button at the top that says "Watch topic". That way I'll get no frantic responses from any of you that don't keep up with this and ask me a million requests when I am gone or on vacation that I have already said I won't be available. You will be automatically notified as long as you have your forum / board settings set up properly. 2.) There are a number of you that have come to this forum for only the purpose of tracking and have in a sense spammed the forums with silly banter in order to fluff up your post count to get in here and demand some tracking action. I would think that if tracking was that important, many of those of you would have read my rules and responded accordingly. I know how you feel ... it is just like Terms of Service agreements or software piracy acknowledgments - you know, those agreements in software programs that scroll on forever that those people ask you to read, but you don't and you just click "agree" anyway to get to quickly click on the next prompt. Humor me and read each and every rule. I ask for a reason and there are so many rule breakers I'm close to my wits end with a lot of you. The rules are here to assist me in helping you - that is it. 3.) If you break a rule, I am no longer going to give you a kind reminder. I am simply just going to ignore your request. If you find you are being ignored, then you did something wrong. Figure it out. Re-read the rules you were supposed to have read in the first place. Then, once you are ready to comply properly, you can re-bump your thread properly. I am not going to respond until you do. 4.) I am sorry, but some of you are taking extreme advantage of my generosity and this free service I offer on my own time. Those that do are ruining it for everyone else. From now on: Absolutely no more than ONE (1) update per tracking thread, per week. I don't care if you are in the process of shipping, or have started production. You plan it out when you want to hear from me, but no more than once per week. I don't care if your lease is expiring and you need to know tracking info so you aren't left without a vehicle. Get a clue - If you are to the point where you need to know where your vehicle is in production because you may/will be left without a vehicle to drive - you have definitely already screwed up and have extremely poor planning that even I can't help you with. 5.) All PMs asking about tracking, information or updates will be deleted no questions asked. I thought this was clear, but apparently it is not. I don't care if you can't figure out how to post in this forum. No PM's about tracking or updates, period! 6.) I am not ignoring you, but at the same time I am not baby sitting your vehicle tracking either. If you want an update, bump your thread. If I haven't gotten to it in a few days, please re-bump - it may have fallen off my list of new updated topics. 7.) If you start to become annoying by wanting timely minute-by-minute updates of any minor thing that happened during your production run or shipment - please stop posting and see your dealer. I am not a service, I do this in what little free time I have because I want to. Please don't make me not want to do this anymore. If you respect my free time, I'll respect your request - it is pretty simple. You don't own me and I don't have to respond. 8.) I have to be at work to do this and I'll typically handle most requests in the morning. Don't ask me for a weekend update because you won't get it. 9.) If I have previously given you an update and in that update there was a specific date listed of something to happen next in the production run, please don't ask me for any more updates until that date has passed. I waste a ton of time with folks wanting updates to production dates I have given you when that date hasn't even happened yet - there won't be any changes. Please be smart about it. 10.) I am not the plant, delivery system, production scheduler or your dealership. Don't ask me to estimate any type of dates or time frame for you, or why things are such and such or taking so long. I can't and won't. There are a million and one variables in what happens with your order - things take as long as they take. 11.) I provide vehicle locator updates - status updates that can be found in your vehicle visibility report. That is it. Don't ask me to provide you with anything other than that, i.e.: no build sheets, no window stickers, no production schedules, no rail car information, no rail car numbers, etc. 12.) Do not make multiple threads for updates. Stick to one thread per VIN / Dealer Code-Order Number for updates. You want to follow a second car you have ordered, make a new thread for that vehicle. Repeat, do not make multiple threads for the same vehicle - even if you've provided incorrect information the first time. Just correct your mis-information in an update to your thread. I will get sick of figuring out which one I need to respond to and just not respond to any of your threads. 13.) I am a human, not an internet robot. I appreciate civility and I enjoy pleases and thank yous. However, please keep the extra chitchat outside of tracking info to a minimum because it helps me sort through threads I haven't upated yet and ones I have. 14.) I do not want anything in return for this. However, after all this work for you, my only payoffs are, 1 - knowing you are happy, and 2 - seeing that final picture of the vehicle I helped you follow for weeks on end. Please don't forget the photo. I love that. 15.) I need a valid VIN, or dealer code and order number to track your order. Please quadruple check the numbers you provide me. I know they are a long string of numbers and letters, but reporting those numbers right the first time will makes us both happier. 16.) When you bump your threads looking for more info, please repost your VIN (or Dealer Codes and Order Number) within your bump. 17.) Do not come here looking for information if you don't have either a VIN or proper, correct Dealer Code AND Order Number. Don't try to give me a Dealer Code with your vehicle description and expect me to find your vehicle. In most cases it is a needle in a haystack. Without both - forget it. If you have your DORA, the Dealer Code and Order Number are both on there, do me a favor and give me both or forget it. Also know this, most dealerships order multiple vehicles -even different types, under the same Order Number, so I will need a description of your vehicle along with your Dealer Code AND Order Number - such as: type, engine, trans, body style, that is it. Don't give me packages or trim levels, those things don't mean squat to me and are not listed in the Visibility Report as trim levels, just a laundry list of options. 18.) I am only a minor admin on this sub-forum, I have no control over how it works and how you get here. I can organize threads and close topics, but I am mostly just a user like the rest of you. Forget all the conspiracy theories of what I am doing to you in why you can't post here or your threads disappearing or whatever related to how the forum works, it is just all B.S.. 19.) If I give you a status and it is Unscheduled-Clean, that means you have a successful order in the system and it isn't currently scheduled for production. When you are in Unscheduled-Clean status I will provide updates no sooner than every two weeks, providing you bump your thread properly. There are a multitude of reasons why something doesn't progress quickly from that status to the line. It has to do with production schedules, plant availability, ordering priority numbers, where you live and that region / dealerships specific allowed allocation segments for that vehicle. I have seen Unscheduled-Clean status stay that way for weeks and weeks on end - even as long as 6 months depending on the availability of what you are ordering and speed of the plant, etc. etc. If you are upset about your vehicle being Unscheduled-Clean for an extended period, you need to work with your salesperson to try to adjust your order priority or find out what period your allocation unit is limited to. 20.) Enjoy yourself. If these updates start making you angry or hostile, or your attitude is making me angry or hostile, please go elsewhere and blow off some steam. Thanks as always. Any comments will be deleted.

Well folks, it finally happened - took delivery Tuesday evening, and it’s been a whirlwind since so I haven’t been able to take the time to post some pictures. I’ve already put 90 miles on (it had 11 at delivery so it’s just over 100 now), and it’s awesome. I've gotten several compliments and comments/questions about it both days so far! I’ll make another post about my likes, dislikes, and issues so far, but in the meantime here are some pics!

It’s here!

Cyberdman has provided tracking for many years but is no longer able to provide that service. The following options are available in addition to asking your dealer for a Vehicle Visibility Report update. Your dealer has 24/7 access to order tracking and shipping details. https://www.ford.com/help/contact/#chat https://shop.ford.com/vehicleordertracking#/

I hear you and I agree but it’s deeper for me. The cultural ignorance of so many decisions is the same “rot” that has doomed so many beloved nameplates over the years. The launch and abandon mindset is built into the culture. It was almost eradicated under Mulally but it grew back. Had Ford followed through with the original plan for a CD6F based Edge, it would’ve been out for MY2022 almost 3 years ago. When the CD6F Edge was shelved in 2020 that’s when China started to develop their own C2 Edge (and Nautilus). The company just can’t stay focused. Things get boring and change direction when the wind blows in a different direction. Mulally was adamant about consistency and continuous improvement but with Ford the lesson is never learned. I’m sorry I could go on for hours on this.

You contribute a lot to the BOF community from your perspective. I just want to acknowledge publicly how much your input is appreciated. Thank you!

You bring up a great point. I’m glad I’m starting my apprenticeship now so my kids will be able to see the sacrifices I’m making to provide for them, at least the older two. The youngest being 3 probably won’t understand until I’m nearly finished.

My other car is a DeLorean.

Great, another example of a Ford Dealer that's too lazy and can't be bothered to do their job and provide the information a customer requires. It's simply amazing how many Dealers are either so lazy or incompetent to realize that the little time and effort it takes to provide customers with retail orders such information. Sure, many dealerships are working with lower staff levels than pre-pandemic and there's been a tremendous increase in the volume of retail orders. For more than 35+ years of managing inventory, my policy was to be pro-active and provide retail customers with order status updates before they felt a need to ask. Each morning I prepared a Vehicle Visibility report showing the current and/or updated status for every retail and fleet order that was distributed to the General Manager, Sales Manager, Fleet Manager, Finance/Business Managers and all Sales Representatives that had retail orders. It took all of a half hour to produce and distribute the information. At some point the microchip shortage situation will be history and commodity restraints and supplier issues will ease. But in the future, when today's customers return to the market again, those customers and enthusiasts that have been treated so poorly, those customers are going to remember the dealership experience. Short-sighted management decisions, policies and practices do not make for long term success and customer loyalty.

Ice and akirby both provide enormous amounts of very helpful information. And everything they provide is true and helpful to everyone. Your comment is very disrespectful. The answers and information they provide is a free source of accurate information and I see them answers the same questions repeatedly over and over. To my understanding they do all of this on their personal time so I think they have no reason to be required to "be above petty responses." We should be respectful and be more appreciative of everything they do for all of us.

That is officially the stupidest thing you’ve ever said here. Even worse than your autonomous car bullshit.

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You can't change the world if you aren't making any money.

AND. How could ICE sales have INCREASED?!?!?! I was told that was completely IMPOSSIBLE as everyone is flocking to BEVs in droves and ICE was dead!!

How in the hell is a vehicle that gets 40 mpg a “gross polluter”?

AM has a much greater transmission distance range. Think folks out West where there aren't any towns for many miles. AM radio may be the only reception they can receive out in the middle of nowhere.

I am the director of Bronco rear quarter panel installation

Ok this is yet again a repeating argument of “yes it is” “no it isn’t”. Peak power use IS an issue in some areas and more EV charging COULD make that worse. And I’m going to keep reminding folks that a large percentage of the population will not be able to charge at home and if those people get off work at 5 pm at 10% battery they need a public charger. Are there ways to mitigate this problem as EVs become more popular? Of course. The grid has to improve. EV charging has to improve both from a public infrastructure standpoint and technology. That doesnt mean it can’t work today or won’t work tomorrow it just means everything has to evolve and there will be bumps along the way. So let’s stop this repeated nonsense of “it will never work” vs “there are no problems at all”. Neither are true.

Yet the majority of customers know more than a salesman.

10 months 13 days and Jackpot……the ford angels have sang.

My journey is over, I picker her up today it was definitely worth the wait!!!!

Well folks, it's almost here!

There is far too much speculation going on about Super Duty commodity restraints, scheduling times, etc. with members reporting Dealer and/or Ford Zone Managers claiming 40+ week delays to get certain vehicles scheduled. 2022MY Super Duty Option Availability: For the remainder of 2022MY, the following options will ONLY be available to schedule on retail orders. Stock orders with these options will not be selected for scheduling: Spray in Bedliner (85S) 5th Wheel/Gooseneck Hitch Prep Package (53W) Tonneau Cover (21D,21E,21J) Active Steering (60A) (optional on Lariat, King Ranch & Platinum; standard on Limited) 19.5 Forged Polished Aluminum Wheel (64D) (standard on all F450 series and included on STX Pkg—17S) Black Appearance Package (17L) on Lariat The above is the last official information available from Ford regarding the Super Duty options of concern for many customers. Ford does not release expected availability timeframes for either Retail or Stock order options, only for Fleet orders. Dealers that don't know or can't be bothered to check the resources available can tell customers anything they want and/or claim that what they're telling a customer came from their Ford Zone Manager. That doesn't make the information factual. Someone posts such claims about 26, 27, 40+ scheduling delays which gets repeated by others and then it's considered a fact... nonsense! Ford is doing everything possible to get Retail orders scheduled and built as soon as possible which is why the above noted options are no longer available for Stock orders. In addition, there are far too many posts comparing order specifications, scheduled production dates, build dates, etc. and questions about why older orders aren't scheduled and built first or sooner. Claims that duplicate orders are scheduled at different times or overlooked aren't justified without comparing the exact specifications. Look at the 2022 Super Duty Pick-Up Order Guide (38 pages) and consider all the possible build combinations. Then consider the commodity restraints, supplier issues, supply chain issues, plant constraints, microchip requirements, etc. Unfortunately, there are far too many posts that are turning the forums into a Private Message board. Ford gives Retail order scheduling and production the highest priority. Unfortunately, the incredible increase in the volume of Retail orders is causing its own problems. One of the factors is the number of Retail order specifications being changed by customers trying to get their orders scheduled sooner. Every unscheduled order gets reviewed for commodity compliance prior to scheduling but scheduled Retail orders with changes often require both regional office and plant approval. Scheduled Retail orders with approved changes then require re-sequencing plant scheduling for that order and many others in order to keep optimizing plant production. Unscheduled Retail orders with either 01 or 02 priority codes are reviewed closely and every attempt possible is made to make exceptions to commodity restraints, etc. in order to schedule those vehicles as soon as possible.

2022 Ford Super Duty Remote Tailgate Release Operation Change for vehicles built on or after December 20, 2021 ACTION REQUESTED • Ensure your dealership teams are aware of a mid-model year change to the tailgate release operation on certain 2022 Super Duty vehicles equipped with Remote Tailgate Release SUMMARY 2022 Super Duty vehicles built on or after December 20, 2021, equipped with Remote Tailgate Release have a change in the Remote Tailgate Release operation. When using the tailgate release button in the instrument panel, release button on the tailgate, or the remote keyless entry fob, the tailgate release button must be pressed twice within three seconds with the transmission in Park for the tailgate to release.

There seems to be two different type of people on the forum, those who constantly complain and find any reason to either blame Ford or their dealer for what’s going on right now with all of the scheduling or production delays. Ford is lying to them, the dealer is lying them, both are lying to them. The second type is someone like me. i am waiting to be scheduled for almost 5 months. I understand the situation is difficult right now and life is not always fair with different regions, different dealer allocations, different unscheduled order bank numbers at individual dealer, commodity constrains, huge unprecedented overall superduty order bank, part shortages and supply chain delays. Etc, etc, etc. i’m not blaming either Ford or my dealer, i simply follow weekly release notes, try to drop the commodity constrains that might delay me and continue to wait my turn. Sooner or later i will get scheduled like everyone else does eventually, patience is virtue. There are literally thousands of orders sitting at 02 priority right now waiting for one commodity or another to clear. My dealer alone has over a hundred SD orders that are at 02. Now multiply that by all the dealerships and retail orders in the country. See the problem for what it really is. So no, nobody is lying to you. And it is not the end of the world if your husband doesn’t get his birthday present truck in time for his birthday. He’ll be happy when he gets it during these Covid years.

So I took the delivery of my silver radiance '24 Nautilus reserve hybrid in December last year and just hit 1500 miles on it. I was too lazy to write review but then I saw Gurgeh's great review in another post, I decide to offer my two cents? The '24 Nautilus is my second Ford vehicle, last one been a '06 Mondeo made by Ford China's Chongqing plant which was a mixed bag. The first thing I noticed is the great improvement in build quality. The Mondeo was mediocre at best while the Nautilus' body and interior panels are almost perfectly aligned. A few( ~15) out of the owners‘ group I was at that has 400+ members now claim that the sensors behind steering wheel are slightly inclined but other than that, I don't see much complaints. Kudos to Ford China for making huge progress in the last 20 years! Luckily my neighbor owns a '21 2.7 v6 Nautilus so I can switch and compare with mine. Both our cars have 21 inch wheels but mine has 255/50 tire while my neighbor's has 265/40 tire which is more sport oriented and frigile. I'm quite happy with this change as the new tires are less vunerable to potholes? Theoretically, thicker tires make the ride less bumpy but I feel the difference is negligible. Acceleration wise, my hybrid is just a tiny bit slower than the v6 when doing 0-60, like 7 sec. vs 6.5 sec. BUT when doing 0-40, the hybrid feels quickerdue to the electric motor. Also the hybrid is extremely smooth as the e-cvt doesn't have any gear. Steering is typical Ford - light and 'loose' during low speed which I personally don't like. Suspension is now made of steel instead of aluminum but still filrt the bumps and shocks pretty well. A perfect example of American land yacht. Interior space is HUUUUGE. Blows every single competitor in the same class out of water. I set my seat pass the B pillar and there's still plenty of leg room in the back for a 5'11 adult male. The trunk is massive as well and mine comes with a spare tire which is always a plus. The back seats are also adjustable and are long enough to hold my leg. I get over the lack of physical buttons pretty quick, but still think Ford should have keep the buttons for AC adjustment. The left side buttons on steering wheel are for the Blue Cruise and the right side ones are for music, volume and voice command. The belt screen allows my wife to watch movies while driving and the sound come through her headphone and don't interfere with music . It's a must have for me now? As for fuel consumption. CIty mpg is around 25~28 depending on the traffic and high way mpg is around 35. The highest mpg I achieved is 42 crusing at 40 mph.

As much as us enthusiasts would have liked a RWD edge I think the C2 version would have been more successful. I think this is Farley’s personality showing in product decisions. Going too fast on new things and having to stop and change direction when issues come up or something more enticing. Ditching Edge and Nautilus for BEVs instead of building a new plant, then ditching the Rivian deal before it really got started (severe lack of due diligence on that one), starting then stopping the VW platform. Too much short term thinking trying to go too fast.

I used to get jealous when I was younger watching the neighbors drive super expensive cars until I realized they were just over leveraged and not saving anything. Now as I get ready to retire we have 2 nice vehicles paid for, a very nice house that will be paid off within a year and 2 very sizable 401Ks plus 2 pensions. Discipline pays off.

My brother in Christ, Ford is simply trying to balance following, and leading in market trends. They're still investing billions of dollars in EV development, they're still investing in hybrid development. It's not like they're acting like blockbuster in the age of Netflix. They're just trying to balance supply with demand. The reality is, outside of coastal states, EVs really haven't taken off yet, and likely won't for at least 5 or 10 years. You can't make money on cars that don't sell, and EVs aren't selling relative to ICE. Yeah, you'll go out of business if you stay in the past. But you'll also go out of business spending 50 billion dollars on EV development when you're only selling 100k EVs a year. There's a balance, and Ford has found it. Pushing electric cars on people is just hurting the electric car cause, we have to let people come naturally to these products, and they will. But no-one likes having things forced on them. Ford needs to get the cost of their EVs down, and make them more appealing, less compromised vehicles, and they're doing both of these things as we speak. It's gonna be ok, it's just gonna take a little longer than expected. It's better to take your time and do it right, rather than rush things out the door and alienate your customers.

Yeah, Ford has a bad habit of extending out refreshes well past their prime (and past 3-year leases), de-contenting on those extended refreshes, and then wondering where customers went. Duh buyers aren't going to buy the same vehicle with less content for more money than before..... He won't be happy until ICE = 0% and BEV = 100%, because BEV = unicorn farts and rainbows for everyone!!!!!

This interior is not new for Lincoln. Remember the Mark VIII dashboard? Very futuristic for 1993.

Picked it up today F250 Lariat Carbonized Grey 3.73 locking axle Chrome package Spray in liner Ordered. 9dec Built 24 mar

Don’t forget listening to feedback from the front line workers on the floor. Time and time again we get solicited for feedback only for it to be ignored entirely.

Just stop already. It’s a stupid statement and all it does is cause arguments.

You really don’t understand mustang enthusiasts.

As if other forms of energy aren’t damaging to the environment? strip mining for battery materials doesn’t damage the environment? Having to literally just bury wind turbine blades because they can’t be recycled isn’t damaging to the environment? What about the excessive amounts of water needed to put out a battery fire? That’s not good and we could have 100% American energy but that’s not allowed lol. there are benefits and downsides to all options. There is no utopia of unicorn farts and rainbows, and BEVs aren’t that despite that they’re made out to be just that. They just have different issues. They’re not excuses, they’re just being realistic with the obstacles and hurdles that exist to follow that path. Just saying it or passing a law doesn’t wave a magic wand and bam it’s all finished. There are things to overcome to get there. why not let customers decide the timeline of the BEV shift rather than force it on everyone if they’re so good.

When the first thing a new President does is sign executive orders canceling the completion of a major pipeline for getting that supply to market and prohibiting exploration and production on Federal lands, that can't be classified as "impact, none."

Well, kinda,,,, HRG

Thats what she sa……..ummmm…never mind

I just got the color match Line X on my Atlas Blue F-250. I love how it turned out. It added $300 to the cost, but when we've already dropped $75k on the truck...

Fixed it for you

This is so off-base...... For the record, the ONLY reason the F-150 is even built at the Rouge is because of Bill Ford. I was one of the managers of that '09-14 F-150 program and when that program started we closed Norfolk and were looking for another place to build it. Tere were other lower-cost options - including some non-UAW facilities. (Namely Mexico.) Bill Ford said no way. They decided to pay a lot more money to make it work in Dearborn. I keep thinking of those moments during this strike and part of me wishes they'd shut them all down and go non-union across the board. Would be better for the company in the long run. There have also been proposals over the years to even relocate the HQ out of the country. (Like Eaton when they "moved" to Ireland.) But again, the Ford's won't let it happen even though they know it would be better financially in the long run.

You'd most likely lose that bet. Don't make assumptions just because they support your viewpoint.

Well, this is a post I'd NEVER thought I'd make...but she's finally home! I got in on this thread back when is was a free for all and everyone was looking for answers on their order, me included. ? So drumroll please, the numbers you've all been waiting for.... 7.3 Lariat Ultimate, LED Headlights, spray in liner, heated steering wheel, optional larger tires, and other things I'm surely missing. Truck came in still smelling new, no faded plastic that I can tell so far, paint looks good with no issues, truck drives straight and true. Slight rust on driveshaft yokes, but to be expected, slight rust on manifolds but nothing excessive. Wherever it was stored was a dust bowl and will need a deep cleaning to my liking, but all in all it's in excellent condition. 401 days since ordered 313 days since built, waiting to ship Came with 28 miles on the odometer Dealer honored price from order at $61,800 out the door! Can't say it was a painless experience, but I'm just glad it's over. Thanks to all that offered support and telling me to hang in there because I just about walked too many times.to count! Now to start putting on all the accessories I've had for entirely too long sitting in the corner. Forscan mods are top priority and will be done tomorrow. Now to get out there and enjoy this redhead.

I get it from a business aspect but I can see that biting them in the ass if/when they misread what customers want/need in a particular segment.

The beast finally arrived today. Got the call this morning. Incredible truck. ordered 09/04/2021 built 05/03/2021 delivered today!

Ladies and gentlemen, I guess this will be my last post in this particular forum since I have taken delivery on Friday evening. Once I arrived at the dealership the process could not have gone any smoother. I already had the modifications done, so all that was left was the paperwork. With all the banter about price protection to say I was a little uneasy was an understatement. However, the topic never even came up in the conversation; honored, and they even threw in an ESP for 6 years/75,000 miles for only $200. Of course I’m well aware that it overlaps my current manufacturer warranty and it will only add up to 3 additional years but, for only $200 more for additional bumper to bumper coverage I would have been a fool to pass it up. I was in and out of the finance office in less than an hour driving that damn sweet truck home! To all of you still waiting, please stay the course, it will happen, and it will be well worth the wait!!! I wish you all the very best, and I look forward to chatting with you in the other forums. To @ice-capades and @akirby and @cyberdman I cannot possibly thank you enough for the valuable insight that you provide! If not for you all I would still be waiting for a stock order that would never get built!

Drove up to Gatlinburg from Charlotte Sunday Stopped and took a picture, thought the picture turned out really neat almost looks like a photoshop.

Start a topic, then complain about why some orders are scheduled and produced before others. Ignore the volume of information regarding order submission, priority codes, scheduling, commodity restraints, production and shipping issues posted by Ford employees, dealership staff, enthusiasts and others. I've spent 35+ years managing a dealership order bank, including every Retail, Plan, Stock and Fleet order over those years. The ordering, scheduling and production are complex topics made more so in the past year due to the pandemic related microchip shortages, supplier issues, commodity restraints, interrupted plant production schedules, etc. I'm only one of a number here that spend hours each day answering questions and providing the latest information available. You want expert knowledge? It's already here if you bother to look at the volume of topics and resources available here at BOF. Want to cut your membership or benefits short? Keep it up, alienate the moderators further and you'll get an invitation to do so elsewhere. Enough of the complaining, whining, speculation and nonsense posts from too many that contribute nothing and waste too much time.