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Here's a copy of the actual notice to Dealers... SUMMARY It has come to our attention that a limited number of dealerships are interacting with customers in a manner that is negatively impacting customer satisfaction and damaging to the Ford Motor Company brand and Dealer Body reputation. Examples of these negative interactions include demanding that customers who are already on the reservation list for the 22 MY F-150 Lightning make additional deposits or payments. These actions are perceived as threatening customers by withholding their opportunity to convert reservations to orders. This behavior is not allowable under Paragraph 6 of the Sales and Service Agreement. Paragraph 6(i) states that “The Dealer shall conduct DEALERSHIP OPERATIONS in a manner that will reflect favorably at all times on the reputation of the Dealer, other Company authorized dealers, the Company, COMPANY PRODUCTS and trademarks and trade names used or claimed by the Company or any of its subsidiaries. The Dealer shall avoid in every way any “bait”, deceptive, misleading confusing or illegal advertising or business practices.” If it is determined that your dealership is engaging in such practices, Ford Motor Company reserves the right to redirect that dealerships allocation of the F-150 Lightning for the entirety of the 2022 MY. No-Sale Provision In order to prevent the re-sale of 22MY F150 Lightning, Ford is offering support for a No-Sale Provision to be signed by the customer at the time of purchase. Dealers may add this language to existing closing forms or create a new standalone document. Purchaser hereby agrees that it will not sell, offer to sell, or otherwise transfer any ownership interest in the Vehicle prior to the first anniversary of the date hereof. Purchaser further agrees that Seller may seek injunctive relief to prevent the transfer of title of the Vehicle or demand payment from Purchaser of all value received as consideration for the sale or transfer. Dealers should consult with their legal counsel to address any state-specific requirements.

Ford can’t prevent ADMs but they can stop dealers from charging customers an extra fee to place their order. https://insideevs.com/news/559386/ford-threatens-dealers-f150-lightning/ Here’s a thought. Ford could require each order to have a signed contract between the dealer and customer stating the sale price and then if the dealer tries to mark it up later Ford has recourse against the dealer. Dealers can still charge ADMs if they want but they’d have to be disclosed and agreed up front.

Gee... all this discussion and comments for a prototype vehicle that has a new interior with updated screens, etc. and slightly revised exterior with blacked-out roof treatment. Basically, just looks like a next generation Fusion/Mondeo that can't be expected to be sold in North America and to the average consumer wouldn't look all that different. Points to the general problem with all the CUV/SUV vehicles on the market now in that the majority look alike and you can't tell the difference between them until you're up close!

SCHEDULING TOOLBOX - SCHEDULING PLAN This is the tentative scheduling plan for the production period. This is just a guide for scheduling. This information is tentative and may change at any time. THIS INFORMATION APPLIES TO UNSCHEDULED ORDERS ONLY. Blue Oval Forums_Production Week Scheduling_2022-01-10.pdf Dealers have just completed the new wholesale allocation agreements which is why so many vehicle lines show no scheduling for the week of January 10th. Dealers will be configuring vehicle orders in compliance with the completed wholesale allocation agreements.

Yours has been moving. It just got changed to a different rail company which is why tracking probably stopped. It arrived in Cottage Grove on the 5th at 1:45AM, so it should be on a truck to the dealer any day now.

Hey all - I'm at 175 days since the order for my F-350 was submitted back in June. I got the VIN a month or so later, but the build was pushed 6 times. The truck finally went into "In Production" status last Thursday, 12/9/2021, according to the info I got from the dealer. Fast forward --- Went to the dealer today to get a status update since it's been a week and rumor has it that it should be built by now. The dealer gives me the Navy Airman Salute and says it's still in production and I can't tell you anything else. I do not buy it. Sorry. Not being a jerk about it but there has to be some kind of status update I can get from somewhere. Can someone tell me how to get a current status on the build of my truck? I have heard the plant in KY shuts down for 2 or 3 weeks later this month and if the truck is not built and on the rails headed to me before they shut down that I will be waiting well into January for the truck. I need to make plans based on when I can reasonably expect the truck to show up. Thanks - a retired Navy Chief just looking for answers... Update January 7th, 2022 My truck was shipped to CSX Baldwin rail yard and arrived on December 27th. The rail car has since been unloaded but now I cannot get any further updates from CSX. Dealer is not cooperating - says Ford has not been updating tracker. ETA for delivery is scheduled for Thursday, January 13th. What do you think the chances are that I will get the truck delivered on time? It has been on order since June 25, 2021. Any way for me to get a current update on the status? Thanks.

The biggest difference is in the hood to front grill line, it’s much more upright like the Edge or Explorer, where as the Evos/fusion is more slanted or rounded down. The greenhouse is very similar to Evos and the doors are the same. I’m guessing it’s going to be like the difference between the C-max and Escape styling wise.

Hi gang. And just for some additional information, with some basic Googling research. Take a look here: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=recommended+fuel+for+Ford+Raptor As can easily be seen, premium fuel is not even "required" in the Raptor (which keeps being selectivity mentioned). Yes, it is "recommended" for best performance" (again...i.e. horsepower/torque). But "recommend" and "required" are two very different words with very different definitions. And premium it is not required and gives no other benefits of engine cleanliness, longevity. maintenance etc. Only added power, which some want/need, some do not. So as akirby so succinctly stated above: "There are real performance gains Premium is more expensive You may or may not notice the difference If you don’t notice the difference or you don’t care then you can save money by using 87 If you notice the difference and/or don’t mind spending more then buy premium. Period end of discussion." Let others read and make a decision based on expert sources, not deeply held Internet opinions with little fact basis, no matter which side the opinion is on. Good luck.

Hi Emilner. Or the opposing argument would be: We should all take the time and spend the money to train like an Olympic athlete everyday, because that is what will give us the the best overall physical performance for our bodies, even if we do not need that level of performance. The reality is that many/most of us do not need top performance, so we do what is necessary to maintain and perform how we need to in our lives (not others lives). Of course, some do train like hell, while others treat their bodies like a garbage can and/or everything in between. Or in the case of our vehicles, do not even perform minimum maintenance, oil changes etc. So you see, silly analogies aside, the argument can be cast either way, since there are holes in any analogy, including the two mentioned here. And using 87-89-91-93 octane does not matter, as far as engine health and longevity, unless premium is required (far different than "recommended for..."). It only matters for "performance" (i.e. power/HP). And not everyone needs or wants top performance to drive to the mall. So the answer is that everyone needs to use the octane fuel they feel is necessary for their driving desires and environment, as long as it meets the minimum Ford requirements (not "recommendation") for their vehicle. As akirby stated, no one here is telling anyone not to use premium, or 87 octane is the best choice for everyone. We are simply telling everyone to use what the feel is best for their driving environment and situation, as long as it meets the Ford minimum requirement, which is most cases, is a minimum 87 octane fuel (but everyone needs to read their own Owners Manual. However, some here are certainly telling everyone they need to use premium and it is the absolute best choice, no matter their driving environment. And some of those same people, who are telling everyone what is best for them, are the same people saying the other side is telling everyone what to do. Now, that is ironic. And since some here seem to repeatedly state that others are ignoring this or that statement, it seems no proponent of "premium fuel is best for for everybody" will address the fact that virtually all automotive experts state that a driver should use a fuel that meets the minimum octane requirements of their particular vehicle, or a higher octane premium, if the wish or feel the need to. But that for many owners, premium is a waste of money. Even when research that is provided. Would someone please provide expert sources stating premium fuel is best for everybody, other than a very liberal (and cherry picked) inference that an Owners Manual stating "recommenced" also means "required", or best in every circumstance for everyone? And even when other Owners Manual statements to the contrary have been offered? Let owners read the expert sources and make a decision as to what is best for them on their own. All the rest of this is Internet posturing and babbling. Good luck everyone.

I purchased the ARE topper as I had two ARE toppers in the past and they had great paint and no quality issues. It took 6 months from order to deliver - came in just a week before my F250 did. Here is mine with the trailer I bought to go with it.

Hi BL. We all are. ?

i did order with another dealer, he is a little smaller but seemed honest (as honest as dealers can be lol) he said he had 3 ahead of me , but none with the fifth wheel prep, which i knew was a hold up. he emailed the paperwork with a priority 10, which probably doesn't mean much , but it makes feel better then the 19 .lol. thank you

Ok guys - NOBODY here said that you shouldn’t buy premium IF that’s what you want to do. EVERYONE acknowledged you get more power, So stop making stuff up that wasn’t said, The gains are only noticeable depending on how you drive. If you do WOT runs you’ll probably feel it. If you drive like a granny you won’t. It totally depends on how you drive. You guys are the ones trying to tell everyone that they should buy premium. What everyone else said is very very clear: There are real performance gains Premium is more expensive You may or may not notice the difference If you don’t notice the difference or you don’t care then you can save money by using 87 If you notice the difference and/or don’t mind spending more then buy premium. Period end of discussion.

LOL You're a bad, bad man...

I always love the argument "I couldn't tell the difference so you shouldn't waste your money". It's like "I can't tell the difference between first growth Bordeaux and 2 buck chuck, so you should buy the cheapest wine you can" Do you have a Navigator or Raptor?

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Someone at Ford has no sense of proportion or stance, and it's whoever has designed this and the last generation of Mondeo / Fusion. The rear wheel arches look awful. Far too small. The rear of the car looks like it's permanently sagging. The space between the top of the arch and the window line is far too great, and it's emphasized by the crease line and the kick up of the third window.

GM announcing development of HD EV Trucks https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/gm-ceo-mary-barra-electric-heavy-duty-trucks-sierra-silverado-hd/ Alongside the reveal of the 2024 Chevrolet Silverado EV in RST , Trail Boss, and Work Truck trim, General Motors CEO Mary Barra revealed the automaker would bring forward all-electric heavy-duty trucks by 2035. By now we’re all familiar with GM’s commitment to transitioning all light-duty cars and trucks to electric propulsion before 2035, but the company has shied from disclosing any plans of electric heavy duty trucks up until this point. The details were scarce, but during Barra’s presentation she proclaimed that the future GM HD EV trucks “will be engineered to deliver effortless heavy-duty hauling and towing while offering customers amazing new features, and a [battery] range to get the toughest jobs done.” Electric Chevrolet Silverado And GMC Sierra HD Trucks Inbound? It’s unlikely that General Motors will eliminate gas and diesel-powered HD trucks before 2035, as heavy duty and commercial medium duty truck sales are some of the automaker’s quiet cash cows. Beyond retail level Chevrolet Silverado HD and GMC Sierra HD trucks, there’s an entire world of HD trucks like the Class 6 Chevy Low Cab, and Silverado 4500, 5500, and 6500 HD chassis cabs that underpin everything from cube vans to small busses, and ambulances. A truck like the Class 4 Silverado 6500 offers a max payload of 15,940 lbs, those are some big shoes to fill.

Lincoln is very clear on its recommendation: "For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel is most noticeable in hot weather as well as other conditions, for example when towing a trailer." (1.) If one desires the best over overall vehicle & engine performance then use 91 or higher. (2.) Lincoln explicitly says the performance gain is noticeable, AND gives two examples where it's MOST noticeable. Lincoln is NOT saying those are the only examples where the performance gain is noticeable, rather, simply providing examples where the performance gain is MOST noticeable. In short, Lincoln specifically recommends using 91 or higher AND says the derived performance gains are noticeable. period. To the extent anyone here is recommending people NOT use 91 or higher, they are contradicting Lincoln's written recommendation ... doesn't make it wrong or bad, just a deviation from Lincoln's operational recommendation.

2022 F-250 Lariat, crew, 4x4, Diesel, blackout package, Antimatter blue, Goodyear Adventure 34" tires, 2" leveling kit, Westin HDX grille gaurd, color match cap,

Back in the 2000s, there was an Aussie RHD Falcon getting around Detroit, everyone was excited until it was discovered to be Ford design chief, Jay Mays personal car..

Your's and mine might be riding together on the same train going west. Mine has been in Chicago since the 31st and heading for Washington state.

I think the issue with the continental is it was expensive enough to the point where it only appealed to a small audience. But it was cheap enough to where they didn't profit enough off of each sale. Kind of a lose-lose situation. I think if they revived the continental as something like Lincoln's ev flagship, with bold styling and outlandish tech with excellent luxury features, and charged six figures for it, it would actually have a stronger business case. Apparently, Ford was going to make the next gen continental an ev SUV, is was the one that was going to use Rivian's platform. According to people who saw it, is was gorgeous, with many calling it Curic's best design yet. Which is saying something, because the s550 and aviator were both stunning. It's a shane the Rivian project got canned, but maybe they'll revive it, or use that design on another ev if they can.

I was "In Production" 12/12 then was shipped "offsite" for chip hold. Then I get "Built" email 1/3 so maybe our trucks were one of the 10,000 that are part of the "shutdown clean up" before production begins later the month. Think positive my friend!

I wouldn’t read too much into that, it’s just the way Ford talks about its pickup plants.

Challenger isn't offered with as many of the modern features that requires more chips like a new RAM or Jeep Grand Cherokee or Wagoneer would need. Same goes for Mustang but since it's on a newer platform and likely with newer electronic modules than Challenger (and Charger for that matter). I don't know what Stellantis' full situation was but I know there was several points where Mustang production was stopped for multiple weeks at a time to use whatever chips they could for other vehicles.

It also costs about $5000. It's not what the US market wants but it does demonstrate that GM knows how to make affordable EV, which was my point. And it has such a big lead on affordable EV in China that it cannot be dismissed as a neophyte. By comparison, Mazda charges $34k for MX-30 with the 100 mile range in the US. Let say making a bigger Wuling Mini that will pass US safety regs while keeping range at 110 miles will roughly double its price... you are still at $10k vs. Mazda's pathetic attempt at $34k.

Is your expy a platty trim?

This gives me a little hope. My rig has been sitting in Chicago since noon on 1/2/22. Maybe it's in transit without it not updating. TTGX 980762 Order: 2143 Vin: 1FT8W3BN1NED14018

Thanks.

Advancing the timing (which is what provides the added power and what higher octane enables) also increases fuel economy slightly. Not enough to offset the higher fuel cost by itself, but there is some improvement. As pointed out 100% gas will also help fuel mileage- probably more than higher octane. Again probably not enough to cover the added cost but a benefit if you’re using it anyway. Side note - did you know all EPA testing is done with pure gasoline not E-10? Seems like they should be using E-10 since pure gas can be hard to find in most areas.

The proportions - not to mention front end details - don't match in my eyes. I'm still not sure this is a US-directed model.

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Even Toyota said this is a special circumstance, that they believe won't be permanent.

Eh, if there's anything Ford knows, it's its truck customers. I think we'll see it retain the traditional setup. Remember, Avalanche's form failed/was discontinued before. Why should it work better now? Just because EV? Plus Silverado name? I'm not sold.

There seems to be two different type of people on the forum, those who constantly complain and find any reason to either blame Ford or their dealer for what’s going on right now with all of the scheduling or production delays. Ford is lying to them, the dealer is lying them, both are lying to them. The second type is someone like me. i am waiting to be scheduled for almost 5 months. I understand the situation is difficult right now and life is not always fair with different regions, different dealer allocations, different unscheduled order bank numbers at individual dealer, commodity constrains, huge unprecedented overall superduty order bank, part shortages and supply chain delays. Etc, etc, etc. i’m not blaming either Ford or my dealer, i simply follow weekly release notes, try to drop the commodity constrains that might delay me and continue to wait my turn. Sooner or later i will get scheduled like everyone else does eventually, patience is virtue. There are literally thousands of orders sitting at 02 priority right now waiting for one commodity or another to clear. My dealer alone has over a hundred SD orders that are at 02. Now multiply that by all the dealerships and retail orders in the country. See the problem for what it really is. So no, nobody is lying to you. And it is not the end of the world if your husband doesn’t get his birthday present truck in time for his birthday. He’ll be happy when he gets it during these Covid years.

I took delivery of my Explorer a couple of weeks ago. Here's a couple of photos.

1st long trip since repair. Drove from Raleigh to northern indiana via The Henry Ford Museum and back. drove great. smooth. my back hasn't hurt at all, great seats. 32 mpg with some in town thrown in.

1. Convenience. Many people like it built in, and not having to connect their phone. 2. Cell coverage. When traveling in some remote areas or rural interstates, cell coverage (with data) can be spotty or non-existent.

After waiting 4months for my new 2022 escape hybrid I drove it for 15 minutes before it was back at the dealer and in the service garage.It has a loud thumping noise almost like a flat tire sound coming from the front only when the gas engine kicks in it is quiet when running on the battery.The mechanic couldn’t find what was causing it told me to drive it for a while and it might go away.Well it hasn’t it’s going back to them next week.Has anyone out there experienced anything like this? There is less than 500kms on it.