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Ford should start refining things they've already got right or sorted out instead of constantly introducing clean-sheet redesigns of software and hardware. PS: This I think may soon happen at least with the Ford Blue side of the business.

What annoys me are issues like the windshields of Broncos and North American Rangers that are improperly attached. That's Tesla-level quality issues.

Well when you keep deleting features you just eliminate things that can have problems.

We shall see. But I think it's just more blah, blah.....

I didn’t say it was bad. In terms of quality and cost it’s ideal and they did a good job keeping the top hat fresh. I just can’t stand it when certain people proclaim the Camry is all new on an all new platform when it’s really not.

My point was that the listed "MSRP" is actually heavily marked up... and then they added on a $2,995 "market adjustment". They're already wanting tens of thousands over MSRP (but erroneously calling that MSRP as opposed to the dealer's selling price), then they have the nerve to demand an extra $3k on top of that. lol

They just didn't feel comfortable sneaking that last $2,995 into the misrepresented, inflated "MSRP" value...

Another dealer with crazy markup on F-150 Lightning. Stearns Ford, Burlington, North Carolina. MSRP = $69,554 (the $139,900 shown below is not the actual MSRP). Asking price = $142,895.

In the past, Toyota had way too many platforms (almost 100 globally) and an uneven product update cadence. Some vehicles such as Camry and Corolla got frequent, major updates. Others like Tundra and J200 Land Cruiser went over a decade without a major redesign. Toyota addressed this with TNGA. By 2023, 80% of Toyota vehicle globally will be based on one of 6 TNGA platforms.

Oops - yes I got Territory confused with Everest. The point about Oakville is still true though

I’ve said the same thing many times. Look at Toyota and the Camry/Corolla platforms. Mostly cosmetic changes and minor upgrades. I don’t see anything new from Blue other than features and top hats. They don’t need new powertrains or platforms.

I'll believe it when I see it! Ford's had quality issues for decades. They always talk about better quality, but it's never been the priority they claim, and instead they continue to spend billions of dollars per year in recall and related expenses. Remember the "Quality is Job 1" campaign theme that ran for years? There's at least one new recall or delivery hold each day, sometimes as many as 5-6.

Would be a good replacement build for Oakville when Edge/Nautilus production ends.

The relocated outboard rear shocks and wider tracks allowed Ford to increase the space between the rear wheel wells. Supposedly this was a request/requirement of VW since the 1st gen Amarok could fit a European pallet flat between the wheel wells and the outgoing Ranger couldn't.

New gen (2023) Ford Territory (aka Equator Sport) spotted in Vietnam. -baohomnay.com

As the monitor quoted in the OP warned, here it comes: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-grid-operator-warns-of-potential-rolling-blackouts-on-monday/ar-AAZqZ9w?li=BBnb7Kz

I asked a dealer about it several years ago. They wanted $500 labor plus parts ($250 ish). Ended up buying an $11 set of lights from Harbor Freight and drilling 15 holes in the roof myself. With a generous application of silicone sealant in and around every hole, I never had a problem. You’ll spend more time measuring and tormenting yourself with the thought that one light points a hair off center than you will physically installing them. Easier to spot truck in a full parking lot, visual confirmation of successful remote start, better visibility at night and in bad weather, wider audience for resale. On a personal note, I’ve found that the lights tend to have an “oh shit” effect that motivates slow drivers to move over at night as well. It communicates the size of the truck more effectively. The lights became a mandatory feature for me when I was picking up a pallet from a factory loading zone before sunrise. The gate attendant asked me to turn off my headlights to avoid blinding their forklift drivers. Two minutes later, a forklift driver didn’t see my parking lights down low and almost turned my truck into a convertible. I added amber strobes not long after for the same reason.

I’ve seen it on Canyorados too.

I guess the sarcasm wasn’t thick enough ?

Same size as the current Ranger.

F250 XLT SC 6.2 built 6-16, shipped 6-17. Asked my salesman for my rail car number yesterday and he said he doesn’t know what a VVR is..He’s been selling for 30 years. He’s a decent guy, I blame the dealer and their training. I called FoMo customer service and Rosemary couldn’t provide a railcar number because…..she said it has already been received at the Portland rail destination 50 miles away from my dealer. It’s sad that the customer can…and has to access more info than the dealer can or will provide. What are they going to do when Ford goes to order only system. Only the informative dealers will survive…as it should be.

In regards to crypto, the utility company I work for has actually set up a crypto mining farm to help even out the load on the grid. When there is excess power, the crypto farm kicks it up a notch, and when more power is needed, it tones it down. It's much quicker and easier to turn a crypto farm up or down than it is a power plant. Without the crypto farm, much of that excess energy would be wasted.

I am not sure why this old thread was brought back, but none of this discussion matters if you consider why it started in the first place... "Ford has said 100 times that there will be no global Ranger in the US. Fine. Let's think out of the box !" We don't need to think out of the box because the global Ranger is here now. Plus there is a Maverick slotted below it. The only reason Ford ever offered an Explorer Sport Trac in the first place was to offer a mid sized crew cab pickup. The Ranger fills that spot today.

Thats government for ya. Worst invention in human history