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I was one of the Ranger sales. My 2026 Ranger Raptor in Marsh Gray. I saw it sitting in front of my local Ford dealer and decided it was time to upgrade from my 2022 Ranger Tremor.

If buyers wanted 100% EVs they wouldn't have needed laws to mandate them. Typical government thinking they can force something that isn't technically or economically viable to realize a political agenda.

My Mustang is in there!

Well after about 6 months of death by 1000 dollar repairs from my Subaru , I decided to ditch it. Drove a Ridgeline , Passport, Maverick. Bronco, Ranger, and Explorer at the local dealerships. I would of driven a 4Runner but prices and inventory are just atrocious in my area. The Ranger, Bronco, and Passport (in that order) were my top 3. If there was any inventory to choose from I would have got a loaded up XLT with V6. Found a 2025 Bronco Big Bend with Black Diamond package that I really liked at a dealer an hour away. They had good deals on the 25s so I took the gamble. The Good: I walked away with a Bronco with 5 miles on it that I really liked and got a good deal. The Bad: Dealership was subpar. Salesman was only bright spot. They applied terrible vinyl pinstripes to every vehicle on their lot and tried to charge 499 for it (didn’t pay for it) .Weren’t completely up front with discounts. When I arrived, another salesman tried to pretend that the one I was talking with didn’t work there. The worst vehicle prep, I’ve ever seen. The vehicle has a piss poor wash and vacuum. I love it, with one exception. I literally think the 2.3 sounds like a whiny sewing machine. I now understand why they pipe in engine noise. I need to get it detailed and waxed. Debating on whether to put a coating on undercarriage. Need to get towing package, bags for the roof, and Raptor style running boards. Here is a photo (not a good one)!

The MME is supposed to get a refresh for MY27 but I don’t know the status of whether that is still happening or if it was canceled. Refreshed front and rear end, tweaked dash and a significantly improved battery with a longer range. I’d give the current MME until 2030ish at the latest. The 2-row RWD CD6 based “replacement” is still coming.

That’s exactly what’s happening….

Oakville should be making Nautilus, Corsair and a C2 based Edge with hybrid powertrains right now.

Borg, is that you? 😄

Most of this is accurate. The Maverick based small van was indeed cancelled earlier this year. The C2 “Maverick SUV” is still moving forward as far as I know. I don’t know where the next gen Bronco Sport is going with the Valencia change. I have heard the Mach-E could get a “roommate” at that plant because it’s so underutilized. Another C2 plant is needed. Yes, the Explorer and Aviator will be getting major upgrades for MY30 but they did scale back the full redesign. It’s incredibly frustrating to witness the constant second guessing and market chasing going on. Ford only leads with trucks at this time. We follow everyone else with the remainder of the lineup. Meanwhile Hyundai and Kia are constantly rolling out new product and are never looking back.

Well, not everything.....

Truck nuts for EVs

Then maybe you shouldn't have killed them in the first place.......

they desperately need an Edge replacement....

I think this post lays the situation out very nicely. We have a lot of Ford apologists on this site and I used to be more sympathetic to their issues, but trying to justify the current state of affairs is simply ridiculous. And to be clear, I want Ford to succeed. There is a lot of talk about profitability, what is enough, does it justify maintaining a product, etc., but profit is profit whether it is 3% or 10%. A three percenter can make more money if it substantially outsells a 10 percenter, so to me this isn’t a sufficient justification to dump products. It is well documented on this site why Ford’s sales number decline on various models. It is self inflicted. Then theres talk of lack of sufficient development resources to maintain a full line of vehicles. Let’s face it, the F series does not change so substantially from generation to generation that they consume all of the resources. As an owner and enthusiast, I know they don’t. You can call something all new but it doesn’t mean every part number is new. Each product category should have been able to support itself and if you need more people you hire them because your product should be able to sustain itself. The bottom line for me is it is a management issue. Perhaps the Ford family is partly responsible for the situation due to their overall control of the company, but it isn’t clear to me they won’t listen to the CEO. Mulally appears to me to be the last CEO that knew what the hell he was doing, and it did appear the Ford family listened to him at the time. I highly doubt Farley has no influence, because the direction of the company seems to be consistent with his beliefs. If Toyota can be a full line global manufacturer and be profitable, there is no excuse why Ford could not do the same, especially when they were one. In my observations over the years, when companies shrink, they tend to eventually disappear or get bought out. In one of the other threads, somebody mentioned Henry Ford would be rolling over in his grave, and I agree. I don’t think Henry Ford wanted his company to be a boutique manufacturer, limited in scope. It seemed he wanted to bring vehicles to everyone.

Us trying to figure out Ford's plan: Meanwhile......Ford trying to figure out their own plan.......

Certain posters on this very forum came after me for saying that very thing 2 years ago.

Hopefully they bought the extended warranty. If not, Granger Ford can help with a discounted plan!

Finally had a chance to give it a wash and get a few photos. She ain't perfect but that was to be expected of a 36 year old car with 62k miles. It has its fair share of little door dings and dimples, the hood needs an adjustment or possibly a hinge replacement, one piece of trim on the pass side front fender needs replaced (I already have the replacement part), etc. The interior is okay but, again, not perfect. A trim piece on the inside of the driver's door needs new clips, the review mirror needs re-glued to the windshield bracket, the driver's seat shows some wear, etc. Mostly minor stuff but not as quite nice as I had hoped. Just needs some TLC. Seems to run fine and not much signs of rust. The underside was given an oil bath by the previous owner and that needs cleaned up with degreaser as well. I am actually surprised by the amount of used parts that are still available for these.

The plan was and I believe still is to begin importing the Corsair from China starting with MY27. This was/is only supposed to last 3 MYs or until the end of the decade. Tariffs have definitely changed things but I believe they are still moving forward with importing the Corsair from China. There hasn’t been much noise about this because it’s probably the most unpopular decision that’s been made since importing the Nautilus from China. Lincoln’s future is definitely very fuzzy right now but a new product roadmap is being mapped out. The brand is not going anywhere.

2026 is the last year for this generation 8 series and there most likely will never be another like it. I don't buy cars based on style but this model is a looker, imho. What I do like is the twin turbo V8 power, tech that makes sense, and physical buttons for most useful controls. It also features superb ride, handling, quietness and overall luxury. My new ride:

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I absolutely believe this is the current plan. I also believe Farley will dump it if something new and shiny comes across his desk.

This came up in the most recent discussion on Ford EVs, where this photo was posted claiming it was the three row. I was sceptical at first, assuming it was AI, but doing a google lens search shows it as the banner image for Doug Field's LinkedIn profile. That's the guy in charge of the skunkworks Ford's. So this is probably legit. I'd be curious if people who've seen the design could chime in an confirm if this is it. It's not great, but not as bad as what I had in mind.

Farley needs to stop talking and just deliver. Hard to believe anything he says anymore because of all the past goals and statements that went by the wayside.

As the title states I got married last Saturday and me and my wife both wanted a classic car for our photo shoot. Flash back a few months ago when I did the Lincoln Kennedy Blvd Cruise and I met a great guy there who had a white on white 67 convertible and he really came through for us. We don't have all the photos yet just a 'preview' but the ones we got so far look great. The car got a lot of attention everyone loved it especially my wife. The photographer asked if the car could be moved back into the sun for some of the other shots and the owner told me to go for it so I got to back it up and drive it forward a little, my first time driving a 60s Continental which was fun too. The first black and white shot my wife likes so much we have talked about getting it blown up and printed on a large canvas and hanging up somewhere in the house.

Yeah, that's the calculation I did. Not a chance they'd have been able to price it anywhere near that figure here. Yeah, they launched it and forgot it. I know its styling was polarizing, but it really was a great car.

Yup, because Expedition and Navigator are made at Kentucky SUV plant.....

We've pretty much known this. I think Bronco is the one model they can get away with this, as long as they continue making small upgrades and/or special editions each year. Only bad thing, is by the time the new one rolls out, Ford will have de-contented everything but the steering wheel and seats in the cabin lol.

Seems to me the vehicle weight, how the driver tends to sit and the size of the driver play a huge role in potential injury. But by all means let's change the test to get the result we want.

I was able to find them

I still think a Mustang based Lincoln could work by giving it powertrains that would NEVER go into a Mustang like the 3.0TT or the 3.5TT as a halo type vehicle, hell even pair them with an electric motor and bring back the Grand Touring trim. This would obviously sell in very low numbers but would give Flat Rock another vehicle and generate traffic for Lincoln. It should focus on smooth effortless power be an anti Mustang so to speak. Revive the Mark Series? Maybe maybe not could be it's own thing. It probably won't happen but it's a shame to me that we will never see either of those engines in a Mustang from the factory since that would be considered "sacrilegious" I think a Bronco based Lincoln could work too it would have to have a fixed roof and worked on sound deadening to give it a quiet ride. I also think they should try to do something with CD6 give the Aviator a coupe like counterpart. ANYTHING

I'll file it under "believe it when I see it". They've treated Lincoln as the red-headed step child for a while. They finally gave it some attention for a bit, and now back to the back burner. Hopefully they'll soon announce the Chinese Corsair coming here (at least as a stopgap) to keep that segment void filled, while also offering a refresh for us, and then adding the Bronco version if rumors are true.

The Ford Motor Company factually owns the trademark COBRA for all automobiles and has since 1963. Moreover, Ford also owns the Cobra emblem and any iteration of. Shelby has zero ownership in COBRA. Ford licenses Shelby to use the COBRA mark on roadster models only -. Aside from using the COBRA mark on the roadster, Shelby cannot use the COBRA marks on goods / merchandise. While I was at Shelby, Ford made us discontinue all usage of the COBRA mark on apparel, drinking glasses, etc. Ford also owns the "tiffany" emblem, which was used on the side fenders of the 2007-2014 GT500s. Shelby was only allowed to use that logo provided it appeared with the "Shelby" or "GT500" mark. On the other hand, Ford could not use the "Shelby" or "GT500" mark with the tiffany snake logo with paying Shelby licensing fees. The only snake logo, which Ford didn't really didn't contest was the one used on the 1969 Shelby Mustang GTs - internally, at Shelby we called this logo the "Drunk" or "Twisted" snake (photo below). Ironically, Shelby didn't have anything to do with the 1969 model year. As a side note, Ford does not own the GT350, GT500 or GT500KR "King of the Road" marks.

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!

It’s one thing to kill a commodity product and replace it with something better like replacing fusion with Maverick and Bronco sport or replacing focus with Ranger/bronco. Replacing Edge and Nautilus with 3 row EVs was stupid. Replacing Escape and Corsair with CE1 while BOC sits empty for 2 more years seems really stupid.

For the love of God, in the interim, offer a hybrid in everything.

When your entire business is based around selling EV credits and not the cars themselves, that’s not surprising at all…

I like that but I think Lincoln will stick with the design language they have now. That is unless they try something fresh with this model. I haven’t gotten AI to produce a great side profile yet, but it did an OK job by using the refreshed Nautilus here. I’m actually more curious of what they do with the interior.

As Toby Keith said, a little less talk and a lot more action!

Definitely not, CD6 is not going anywhere. It will be expanded, not eliminated

Close, very close…

And BTW - stop bitching about Ford just because they stopped making YOUR favorite vehicles.

But, the unconfirmed rumor is that Trump would agree to waive all tariffs for Ford if they renamed Lincoln Motor division the Trump Motor division...

In 6 months they’ll remove half the lights, followed by the coffee machines then the water fountains.

No. No. No. No. I saw that a few days ago and knew someone would post it. That article is one of the worst written pieces of clickbait I’ve ever seen. For one, the headline shows a CLEAR bias which should raise all kinds of red flags. Second, Ford has said from the start it’s a temporary pause to get through the aluminum shortage situation. The guy that wrote that should never be allowed to have anything of his to be published by any reputable publication ever again.

Ford’s vehicle planning needs a reboot—Can it win back consumer trust? https://share.google/K5GEGpHOYkBsmunPh I can’t disagree with anything said in this article. I’ve personally lost some faith in Ford. There has not been much to get excited about for the last few years. I personally don’t have much interest at this time in EVs, so other than from a strategic perspective, CE1 doesn’t excite me. I obviously love their trucks but they aren’t giving me much product to consider. I’m just tired of having so little to talk about on this forum other than recalls, decontenting, and delayed refreshes/redesigns. Theres virtually nothing coming for nearly two years. Ford has elevated their participation in various forms of racing, which is cool, and can enhance their vehicle development, but doesn’t lead to many new vehicles to buy. I sure hope they have something coming to be pleasantly surprised about.

No you don’t. 😂😂😂