Sherminator98

The first comment is why I give zero shits about internet comments about cars LOL

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-rolls-back-biden-era-fuel-economy-standards-paving-way-for-more-gas-powered-cars-212656060.html

I'm assuming the Maverick SUV is the Bronco Sport sister product. The Maverick is quite a bit longer then the Bronco Sport and the Escape. The Transit Connect is either 173.9 inches (SWB)/(LWB): Approximately 189.7 to 190 inches...since there apparently a Va n coming too. I can see the Maverick based SUV being a Edge/Escape replacement that has Bronco type styling? It would avoid it being a commodity product that Ford has been railing about.

Here you go: A new C2 Hybrid only SUV appears to have been approved but won’t arrive until 2029 for MY30. This will be a sister to the next Bronco Sport.

Its buried in the one of the threads but it was said that the Bronco Sport will be joined by another product in NA in 2029

So I guess the plan going forward is this: New Bronco Sport from Spain New CUV based on the Maverick that will be larger-Maybe an Edge replacement? Maverick based Van But wasn't there also rumors of another CUV Bronco product coming in 2029 to NA?

I just did some research and it still would be 25% from either Mexico or Spain.

I wonder how that is going to work with importing the Bronco Sport replacement from Spain? Wouldn’t be affected by chicken tax or even a 10-15% Tarriff?

This makes zero sense unless they are doing a reskinned Puma as a Bronco?

https://www.motor1.com/news/780585/jaguar-design-boss-gerry-mcgovern-fired-type-00/ JLR hasn’t had a good time the past couple of months-Jaguar production pause and a cyberattack

Given what has happened with the multiple plant fires, I'd be surprised if we see it by next Summer.

While the Challenger isn't being sold, they are making a two door Charger The Camaro is in the shitty position of having the Corvette above it, so it's a redheaded step child. The Mustang is one of Fords Halo cars so it doesn't have to deal with that.

I think some of the sales numbers of the S650 is Ford inflicted and not the market per say. If it wasn't profitable or at least breaking even, Ford would be doing something else or getting rid of it (though that would be highly unlikely)

The SN95 and new Edge Mustangs were very similar to the Fox body 1979 Mustang and lasted till 2005. The S550 had a significant improvement with IRS being added to it. Given that the Fox lasted from 1979 to 2004, there is no reason the S197/S550/S650 can't last till 2030. Getting back to the Mustang sedan EV-I can see the CE1 birthing a Mach E replacement, not so sure about pure Mustang Replacement. The bigger issue is what is Ford going to do post 2030 with the Mustang coupe-do they invest money into the current S650 platform by adding a sedan and improving the coupe so it can last till end of the 2030s? Not making major changes to the Mustang platform is the reason why it stays in production-tooling/etc costs are amortized already. Not to mention a fairly modified S650 can handle being a SuperCar in the form of the Mustang GT3 too...

I'm gonna guess the CE1 is going to be closer to the $35K mark then the 30K mark...but the Slate is pretty barebones, which is going to work against it with normal buyers-not people who claim they want a cut rate cost pickup. I'll use my father in law-he wanted a smaller pickup that was cheap-he had a used Colorado he got a few years ago and just upgraded to a 2025 Colorado a couple weeks ago (a former student of his works at a Chevy dealership, my wife and I wanted to get him into a Maverick, but they where hard to get a few years back)...this is same man that was complaining about wanting to buy a cheap pick up and winds up buying a 45K starting MSRP pickup that apparently had $10K in rebates on it. Its nice, but its also overkill for a 78 year old man too.

There is always a noisy minority of people that want something and when it comes, it dies an awful death on the market. I can name at least a half of dozen products over the past 25 years that fall into that.

I think the Slate is going to be one of those things that look great from the outside but doesn't survive the harsh realities of the market when it does go for sale.

I'm suprised we haven't heard really much about them-as in how much money they may or may not be doing with them. I see a mix of them along side the Transit ones they use in my area. Speaking of the Transit-why does the fuel door always seem to be broken off on them? I noticed that the past couple weeks.

I think the thing that hurt Ford partly was being hellbent on implementing Ford One to a point-moving volume products to the CD1 and C1 platform seems like it hurt products more then it helped them. The Fusion and Escape where both on Mazda platforms that where presumably cheaper or better suited to the NA market pricing structure. I guess Ford corrected the C1 cost issues post 2020 with the Escape redesign and releasing the Bronco Sport and Maverick a few years later, because they are at least profitable for Ford.

Your basing this on the current economic conditions with worldwide trade staying exactly the same as it is today...the system we have today won't exist in another 10-20 years, if that. There is going to be a retrenchment of manufacturing to North America, if we still want to buy stuff. China will fall apart in some fashion in that same time period.

Hopefully COVID and other things have taught companies not to put all of their eggs into a single basket.

For what its worth- The Chinese market is going to be a shit show over the next 3-5 years. They are in a major demographic decline with 50% of the population being over the age of 50, Other Countries like Germany, South Korea, Japan and Russia are on the same path. The USA is about 10-15 years behind them. I can see outsiders like EU and US based companies getting squeezed out of that market sooner than later, but at the same time both the EU and USA will protect their markets from dumping. Then if CCCP decides that Taiwan is worth the squeeze, they'll basically destroy their economy with economic impact that will cause...and that will be happening sooner then later.

I was quoting a quote from jpd post

https://fordauthority.com/2025/11/ford-mondeo-blue-ovals-last-mid-size-sedan-gets-refreshed/

NJ used to be more rigorous with inspections, now it's just a couple basic things and check emissions, same with MD when I lived there.