Sherminator98

https://fordauthority.com/2026/01/mustang-dark-horse-boss-what-engine-will-power-the-upcoming-pony/ I sure hope Ford doesn't call it the Dark Horse Boss...that is a mouthful

2029 sounds worse then it actually is because IMO its only 36 months from now. I'm guessing that LAP will be retooling for the next 6-8 months, then slowly coming back on line with the new CE1 pickup launching Summer of 2027 The CUV CE1 will most likely start preproduction in mid 2028 launching in early 2029?

new product normally sells well when it first comes out, lets see how the sales numbers are this time next year.

How are you supposed to say the name? A-feel-a? LOL

The biggest issue with the rendering is the wheel/tire combo would kill range LOL I have a feeling that the CE1 is going to look similar to the Trademark drawings they've put out-Its going to be blocky but aerodynamic.

Nah I don't think it is that...because the CE1 will have multiple products built off it. I'm guessing the pickup was done first since Ford thinks that is what they are the strongest in. The issue is that it leaves other segments bare like the larger C CUV market in North America-but there is product coming, I just hope it gets here sooner then later.

Good question-the CE1 comes across to me as a lifestyle vehicle/truck-it can move around light weight stuff without too much impact to range. We need more info on it-it could be something like the Rivian or it might be something that is more radical but less of a truck, even more so then the Maverick as an example? Think a midsize CUV with a bed on it that can tow a jet ski or dirt bike? I'd assume the higher end Mavericks would be affected by it more than the lower range that starts at $27K or so, which seems like where most of the Mavericks that are selling are at.

Yeah 225HP V8 isn't going to benefit from a 10 speed transmission that much, outside of shifting too much.

The rumor has the CE1 pickup being larger than the Maverick and smaller than the Ranger. That also indicates to me that the actual price will be in the upper 30K range instead of lower 30K range IMO. I like RMCs idea of a Bronco styled Maverick truck instead vs making a el cheapo single cab Maverick that would eat into the sales of the Maverick anyways.

Or you could by the new van that is coming 😛

April to July 2025 was when Employee Pricing happened

The Detroit Auto show is next week. Also Red Bull/Ford Performance will be showing off their F1 car for the 2026 season there also. https://www.autoblog.com/news/rumor-ford-revealing-mustang-cobra-or-boss-detroit-auto-show

Some hot takes- The Ranger AND Bronco increased sales this year...so maybe production space isn't as limited as we think. The Bronco Sport is selling at the same level as the Escape did and will most likely surpass it this year, but then again shouldn't be that hard if its out of production LOL The Maverick had a great year, but I saw something that lots of them are on dealer lots still? I'm guessing it is the higher end models that people in that price range may not want to buy since they can get a lower end Ranger/F-150 for the same price?

https://www.fromtheroad.ford.com/us/en/articles/2026/ford-2025-full-year-us-sales-results

From the just because you can do it, maybe you shouldn’t department https://www.thedrive.com/news/crown-vics-with-10-speed-swaps-this-shop-says-its-the-future

Why because it is an EV? Given the info that is coming out about the CE1 pickup, it will have no issues what-so-ever being able to be modified into a 180-190in long CUV

I wouldn't call the CRV and RAV4 "good" looking vehicles either..in the case of the RAV4 it is overstyled IMO the CRV is just "boring". The Honda Passport looks decent though. Both these vehicles are the Camry and Accord of the 2020s-they sell on name/perceived dependability

Knock on wood I haven't seen any cracks in my top yet!

I seriously doubt that a Lincoln Bronco would sell anymore then say maybe 20K units or so a year, assuming the price is over 70-80k

From the way i'm interpreting things, the C1/Maverick based van is going to OHAP, not Mexico. That would help with the Tariff situation. OHAP has built unibody platform vans before and I'm pretty sure that it could handle 50-100K units a year without a sweat. I do like the idea of a Bronco styled/influenced Maverick based vehicle-that makes the most sense out what has been thrown out so far if they are going unibody with TTP. Ford still has a gaping hole in the long C CUV market since the Escape and Edge are gone. I guess a CE1 EV CUV could fill that hole to a point, but i'd like to think that their newest plant can built more than just one product at a time on the same line. I'd assume it would use as much of the same processes that Louisville plant will be using with the CE1 production.

Still waiting on the fix for the two open recalls on mine! Otherwise mine has had zero issues.

Ford vehicle reliability is crazy I think-My wife and sister both had 2010 Escape and my sisters car was pretty much identical to my wife's car outside of it being a limited vs XLT that my wife had -they where even the same color-she had a shit ton of problems with hers, while my wife's car was decent to good for the most part. We had a water pump go on it while visiting family in VA and nursed it home to MD. She had some recall issues with it, but it was resolved without any major problems.

I don't even think those are the plans-what they put out is nebulous at best, given past history. The only thing that has changed is that we finally have an extra plant that Ford could have used the past 15-20 years for other product.

Part of the reason they “quit” is because of what was coming at the time with EV regulations and retooling the plant. Same thing happened to Oakville IMO as for the 2020 redesign-I’m not 100% sure how successful they where in addressing cost issues with it, but it was a major problem from 2013 til 2020-I saw it personally between my parents 2013 titanium and my wife’s 2017 SE- the SE actually was better equipped then the Ti model outside of the 19 inch tires for $5k less, which is insane. Not to mention the Bronco Sport costs more then the Escape starting MRSP and has less equipment then say an Escape SE when using the Big Bend trim (which my wife has). Also I need to dig into Kuga/Escape sales overseas since 2020 to see if it was actually styling or what that impacted its sales positivity or negativity The biggest issue is that it’s going to take Ford 36-48 months to address this-I don’t see why they couldn’t put out something that slots into the larger ICE C2 segment that would fill that Escape/Edge range by 2027/28MY using the TTP.

Two different things I can come up with- The Edge went away because sales were dropping towards the end of its life and other new products like the Bronco and Mach E would occupy its price range, while not being an exact replacement. The Escape “died” (at least in North America) so they could build the CE1 products in the plant and the Bronco Sport/Maverick hopefully fixed the pricing/profitably issues C1 was experiencing. The CE1 is hard reboot of the building process of small vehicles. Hopefully lower prices will make EVs more desirable for buyers. I’m also going to assume that some sort of ICE/hybrid product is coming in the next 24-36 months that will slot into the Escape/Edge market because the situation has changed.