Sherminator98

I’m also guessing that whatever agreements they have with VW and now Renault are affecting the CE1 getting to the EU.

Because your the wrong demographic

I just saw that LFP is going to be around $81KwHr

It won't have a 102 KwH battery in it either. Given what is happening with the EV battery market, cell price might even drop more because of a lack of demand.

I doubt it since because there is an existing framework they would use. The Government isn't going to spend time/money to do things "right"

The problem with a smaller unibody pickup is once CAFE gets reset again, it will be a complete nonstarter to keep in production. I’m sure their will be a lead up to it again, but say launching it in 2029 when a new administration comes in and resets everything to what it was supposed to be, that product would be DOA with in five years of going into production. I hope ford is at least considering that possibility

https://www.autonews.com/ford/ane-ford-ev-platform-us-test-1220/

This what Ford actually put out All new built Ford tough gas powered trucks (notice everything else is not plural also) IMO that is really nebulous and a word salad to say something without actually saying it. Lets not forget Ford's other promises over the years with SUVs and other products that never made it to market. I still don't see how Ford could make something more affordable then the Maverick unless they seriously limit the options, even if they applied the lessons from the CE1 program and not adversity affect the sales of the Maverick or Ranger. No do I really see a market for truck that is purely sold in the 20-30K range for cheap that can actually make a profit for Ford. The price increases with the Maverick are in line with the rest of the market increases since it came out also.

Didn't Ford say the same thing about the Lightning EV after the fires? 🙃

The only way that is going to happen is if Hyundai somehow takes market share in the commercial markets with a full-sized truck and van Chrysler has been just shit on as a company for the past 15-20 years.

Just like your parents said to you, I put you into this world, I can remove you from it again Do remember you where banned and we where nice enough after you begged to come back to here. Do remember there is a fine line.

Unless you got one of those fancy battery storage devices that Ford is going to be making, so you can bank that power

IMO the biggest issue is just making a bed for it. The passenger cell would be more or less the same. The Gladiator is more or less identical to the Wrangler from the C pillar forward. Its a cool thought exercise, but I don't think it has much merit to make it happen. If anything it might be just a better idea to move Ranger production to the TTP with another product and make a modified Everest SUV as a higher end Lincoln along with the Bronco at MAP

They buy Kei pickups because they are used and super cheap at like $5K a pop Till they start getting into accidents and turn into a beer can when they get smacked into by a minivan with a woman putting her makeup on. Then it will the corvair all over again.

Assuming gas-we are paying like $2.63 for regular where I'm at, but we have bunch of taxes making it higher. Diesel is still around $3.50 a gallon around here.

Exactly-esp if the Bronco Sport is going to get a world wide major refresh in the next 24 months or so.

Well at least in North America: C2 already has Hybrid engine options Anything RWD would get the 10 speed with the hybrid motors built into the transmission So outside of figuring out where to put the batteries for products that don't have them (which is just basically the T6 based Bronco), everything else is done already or would need minor reworking, assuming the Expedition and Navigator can use the same hardpoints as the F-150 Hybrid. Or they could just go the EREV route with the new Lightning for the fullsize SUVs.

Well you could always move away from that shithole you know? You also gloss over the fact that there are more players in the market that means more choices, so less market share.

But yet your still here....

Apparently but in the grand scheme of things the Escape/Bronco Sport and Maverick aren't all that different from one another either, outside of sheet metal and some touch surfaces. This rumor was before all the changes happened, so who knows what is going on.

There is a rumor of a sister CUV to the Bronco Sport coming in 2029

Maybe that is more telling about the conditions of the market that they can't make money on them, so no investment. There was a render floating around of a next gen Ecosport, but that hasn't come to pass yet.

Well we finally got that extra plant Ford has may or may not needed for the past 20 years or so... Till they shut down another older plant instead.

They where killed off due to expected changes in the EU market place with EVs and Hatchbacks and Sedans being a dying market there like the USA. The Kuga was developed as a higher end vehicle for the EU market and it struggled in the USA with pricing concerns for the past 15 years or so till the 2020 model came out, if then. I think the issue is that Ford was trying to make it work but it didn't work world wide. I don't think the RAV4 is a particularly luxurious vehicle at all say a higher end Escape. The newer C2 products (at least in North America) with the Bronco Sport and Maverick have seemed to fixed this issue, but I'm also guessing what was learned with CE1 will help improve it even more in the future. Ford's cheaper vehicles desperately needed a reboot to address issues with cost in various markets and I'm guessing that is why some CN based products are being related on in more cost sensitives markets like South America.

CAFE and other tax on engine sizes in other parts of the world.