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It was part of the reason why I sold my SHO before I got my Bronco in (at the time it was only a couple weeks at that point and then turned into a complete shit show LOL), I was right at 100K or so with it and figured might as well get rid of it because I didn't want that big of an expense right before selling it.

Here is how it works now https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/ev-tax-credit-electric-vehicle-tax-credit The transferring it to a dealership is new I think and would be better for more folks that are limited with amount of taxes they owe, since its not a positive break, only eliminates what you owe, instead of being a credit.

Almost looks like they raided the Mach E center console.

I'm guessing the water pump issue is like the cam phaser issue on other Ford engines-it happens, but not to the point that a complete redesign needs to happen. Or PTUs on D3 platform

And the damage they take from minor fender benders are more expensive to fix also.

I wonder how Ford's demographics are, I know where I work (DOD), that nearly 50% of the current workforce can retire in about 15 years. We had a hiring freeze for a while, so that didn't help either, but that is another thing to consider is demographic changes that will be happening in the next decade or two.

It boils down to the infamous arguments with Biker16 we had almost 20 years ago..if the NA Market isn't willing to pay extra for something it doesn't feel necessary, what is the point? We've seen bitching about interior materials on Ford products for 20+ years, but has it significantly impacted sales? It seems like materials Ford is using might seem cheaper but hold up better over time over competitors using "nicer" materials in their products. Not my justification, but that seems like what Ford is doing.

Ford is/was struggling in the Chinese market the past couple of years, so they got new product to right the ship (that was done maybe 5-7 years ago, with product cycles) before NA/EU Ford started Focusing on EVs in 2020 or so.

Here is the thing-Wall Street is a self licking ice cream cone...I've seen this in the IT industry for the past 20 years...promises of a great leap forward (think Self driving cars,AI) all being oversold to increase stock prices of respective companies. When it comes to EVs, I wonder how much impact inflation, higher interest rates and drop in federal rebates recently have removed interest in EVs. I think at least 25% of the market that might have been interested in them went in a different direction because of that. You'll see flatter growth as time goes on instead of parabolic growth like we've had. Some states are rolling back their 2035 mandates, which find comical, because so much can change between now and then. Its just political flip flopping at this point.

but the EUCD was based on the C1, if you believe Biker16, so I'm guessing outside of needing to fit a V6 in it, that was the only major change besides being wider. The C2 is just a necking down of the two platforms after lessons learned.

CD4 was the replacement for EUCD, which was developed in 2007 or so

The biggest issue with EVs is charging-it doesn't really matter "that much" if you can recharge from a flat battery to 80% or so in 20 minutes or less with the same ease as going to gas station (well availability) as you do with an ICE. There has be a meeting in the middle between efficiency and performance, just like there is with any other car-if range is that big of a deal, maybe buy that compromised car that no one will build because people buy a swiss army knife that can do more then just one thing and live with the 250 mile or so range.

Just looking at the battery pack, it weighs roughly 1300lbs. I'm guessing the ICE with a transmission will be half of that.

The thing is they can do that all they want, but if customers don't want to pay for it, they'll go out of business. EVs already are hitting head winds with customers and making them efficient above all else is going to be a disaster. Sometimes the 1/2 or 3/4 measure is better then nothing at all, which many people don't get.

Couple of problems with that- The Kuga came out in 2008 and the C1 officially came out in 2004 with the Focus in the EU The NA Focus was built on the C170 platform since '99 and the Escape was on the CD2 platform which was shared with Mazda came out in 1998 or so (in Mazda form) Ford big push was consolation of platforms back 15 years ago and waiting for the C2 (which didn't come out till about 6 years ago) wouldn't have worked...since you'd have a 15+ year old platform being used with the Focus and Escape in NA if they had to wait even for an accelerated C2 platform to come along.

That is insane-its like 16 inches longer then the current Mustang.

Normal torque ratings for transmissions are double what the expected Ft lb load is going to be.

Makes you wonder what happened to the person or persons who thought this was a good idea? I guess they are retired by now LOL

But all the engines (well Ecoboost at least) in the F-150 are 400 ft lbs plus of torque.

I suggest you drop the shovel because your just digging yourself into a hole just to argue. Ford's battery warranty: It is not based on actual range its based on how many of those cells are still working, and guess what? Those batteries are over built cell wise to help protect them and range is different due to driving styles or weather. So if you really want to argue this, your splitting hairs over 15 kwh that works out to maybe 45 miles less range using the worst case scenario.

No because CVT designs can't take torque loads.

Once again your introjecting your personal prerogatives into the conversation. The replacement of EV batteries is an red herring...the failure rates are a red herring https://blog.chargemap.com/electric-car-battery-replacement/#:~:text=A recent study conducted by,on EV models predating 2015. The MTBF for ICE is roughly the same https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/engine-life-mtbf-and-oil-oci-statistics.66626/#:~:text=Two SD covers 97% probability,1.5% chance fail after 160K. Not to mention rental fleet cars get abused...Teslas are more expensive repair due to accident damage, not actual maintenance costs

Someone’s real world experience with a Mach E on a roadtrip from MD to FL

Who knows how long tax credits will be around for and if newer products will be able to get 100% of them.

So one of those adoptions is that you don't ever need (well not nearly as much) to go to a gas station again if you have your own home and can charge there. That is a huge improvement (IMO) having to worry about stopping for gas before or after work.