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Look I understand how upset you are, hell I would be upset also, but not at the UAW because if they could have gotten it they would have. The rules of eligibility have almost always been the same! Shitty if you are one of those on ILO. You never did tell me what plant you are laid off from??

If you are working and have a report date and then get laid off it would be a TLO because you have a return to work date. Unfortunately if you are laid off and then have a job opportunity, you remain on ILO until you go back to work!

That is good advise and back in 2005 all ACH plants were told that they would sell or close. So there has been a lot of opportunities to stay with in zone. Now the options are limited and you will definitely have to make a tough decision if you want to stay with Ford. Good luck and start discussing options with the family!

Thats not true douche bag, grievances aren't settle just because we have a new agreement. The UAW wanted the grievance heard prior too negotiations and Jimmy has clearly said that it will not be a part of the 2011 negotiations! It was posted all over the plant! The UAW had to have the arbitrator subpoena the company to get information. That is the reason this thing has dragged out. The company didn't want to give financial info to the arbitrator. the timing of this laid out back in August would have brought this into 2012. Wow, you can't dream this shit up!! Let me make something up and put it on Blue Oval Forum!

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Merit raises are bonuses...lump sums.... as far as many, no it is most, just ask one!

Whats up pioneer, where did you land?? working my ass off. Have you seen white pages?? Think it is pretty good, but site was down or my guess over loaded. Doesn't sound like we lost anything, but didn't get everthing back. I didn't have expectations we would. Nice to see a little money back in the pockets though. Do think there will be a big take on $50k or 100K? I heard in SE michigan there was something in the water that created many miracle and people were coming back to work by the 100's. Nice to see...wonder how long they will be back for?

Hey salaried phuck..how about take your undeserved salried retension bonuses and get lost....there is no company looking for worthless salaried phucks who ran a company in the dirt! crawl back under Alans desk!

hey whats up steaming carl....the letters that I read from Settles that was posted in the plant did not say that. Hell the timing that was given will frag that into 2012. I thought he specifically said it would not be tied to the 2011 bargaining!

You would think, but they call it retension bonuses and no it does not count in their fixed labor cost! its not fixed if it is a bonus! Most salaried fks have no health care or sub either! Thery treat them like contractors!

Not sure where you have been but 40k workers are not going to strike because 250 on ILO didn't get a signing bonus, but lets entertain that thought...40k members walk for 1 month losing around $3800 while ford isn't making cars, so they are losing 1 million every 10 minutes. With that kind of math do you think it would benefit walking out over....my guess is no and even if we did walk, check out history, you would never recoupe the $$ lost. Again, I am not saying this to be shitty, I am sure if the UAW could have gotten it they would have, again they do not benefit from not getting you a signing bonus!! I am just trying to understand why you are pist and the UAW....be pist at the company...I am sure the IUAW will agree with you that you deserve it but they couldn't get it...be pist at the company for not giving it to you, not the UAW because I am certain they tried to get it for you! Again, why do you keep avoiding the question of where did you get ILOed from??

Would be interested to know which ones??

If it is based on North American profits, then hell yeah it will be counted, my guess they are talking about some sort of interest!