MKII
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Corporate mentality won't be concerning themselves with future safety nets, they are too short termed money hungry.
IMO they will allocate the scarce components to more profitable and better-selling vehicles at the expense of other models,
building vehicles with less technology, leave navigation systems out, remove "intelligent" rearview mirror that monitors for blind spots, remove digital speedo replace with old analog gauges, etc etc.
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Looks like farm equipment
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Matt VanDyke, Ford's U.S. marketing director. "This vehicle is designed for customers who are looking to go anywhere. They want capability. They've got versatility needs. They're not Point A to Point B people. They're seeking outdoor adventure."
Nuff said hahahahahahahaha
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Looks like a Bronco Sport pickup
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1 hour ago, HotRunrGuy said:
According to this, it might be a loose component of the sub-frame, NOT the attachment of the sub-frame assembly to the body structure.
HRG
So the wording in your notice the sub-frame won't detach from the main body, just that the sub-frame components could come apart?
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22 hours ago, Harley Lover said:
I think the "root cause" is more subtle than what you say. What I haven't seen anyone in this discussion question is Ford's quality procedures for assessing incoming parts - or in this case, it might be an entire subsystem. Presumably the supplier would be sending some sort of Certificate of Analysis (COA) confirming that the subsystem meets Ford specifications and showing the test values that demonstrate meeting the spec(s). How is it that the subsystem would presumably be reported to be in spec as delivered (with a COA confirming the appropriate tests were conducted and showing those test values), yet these didn't meet spec? Does Ford have some sort of statistically valid approach for randomly testing these bolts to make sure they are tightened to spec? Or is the supplier carrying some sort of ISO accreditation that should negate the need for Ford to do those tests? Did the supplier not perform the tests? Did the supplier provide false results on the COA? Did Ford knowingly accept parts with some failed spec values?
Who failed here? I have no idea. Perhaps there is shared blame. But I'm sympathetic to those who see Ford blaming the supplier in its press release; as I described above, Ford sets specs for incoming parts. Ford should be getting affirmation from each supplier in the form of COA's that the parts meet the specs. I think the issue here is Ford cannot 'call out' the supplier if indeed there was some sort of malfeasance on their part, because then the issue gets into the realm of legal issues - it's one thing to say the supplier 'may have' supplied a faulty subsystem, it's a much higher threshold to pin down exactly what they did (or didn't do) and air it in public. It seems to me like Ford tried to thread the needle here, but I am sympathetic to those unhappy with Ford 'blaming the supplier'. Ford owns the quality process for incoming parts, and they need to own the outcome of what that process did (or didn't) catch.
Excuse my assembly processing ignorance, but who puts this subframe piece with the loose bolts to the main structure of the vehicles?
I ask because in the article it states "The hazards: the subframe could become detached from the main structure of the vehicle if the bolts become loose over time."
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1 hour ago, jpd80 said:
Europe and ROW markets now look to be getting hybrid love as Ford begins the move away from diesels,
this is encouraging as it's the first step in prepping buyers for BEVs in a few years time.
The only petrol engine offered in the EU Mondeo is the 2.0l Hybrid, only other choices are a whole wack of 2.0l diesels in different hp levels. And the Mondeo Hybrid takes a beating in all the reviews because of droning gutless engine, crappy CVT, and lousy cargo space in both sedan and wagon/estate variants. And Kuga PHEV started hot out of the gate, but the battery shit show slowed the love for Ford Hybrid product for now.
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VALENCIA, Spain, Jan. 16, 2020 – Ford today announced a €42 million investment in its Valencia manufacturing plant, Spain, to support the company’s electrification strategy with a state-of-the-art battery assembly facility in addition to new S-MAX Hybrid and Galaxy Hybrid models.
Two new assembly lines will enable the advanced lithium-ion batteries that help power all-new Kuga Plug-In Hybrid, all-new Kuga Hybrid, and new S-MAX Hybrid and Galaxy Hybrid to be produced alongside the vehicles for greater manufacturing efficiency and sustainability. Delivered through a €24 million investment, the new battery assembly facility will begin production in September this year. (this year meaning 2020)
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7 hours ago, slemke said:
Does it still have a spare or did the battery pack take that space?
I don't know about the spare tire. Ford has only released the cargo area dimensions which are the same as the non Hybrid variants.
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The batteries are stored underneath the rear load floor with a twin exhaust routed around either side, so unlike the Mondeo Hybrid there’s no effect on cargo space
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15 hours ago, bzcat said:
It's very common for FWD cars on the same platform to have different rear suspension. The high performance or luxury version tends to feature IRS for better ride and handling while entry level versions have twist beam or some other type of semi-IRS. VW for example have used IRS on Golf while using twist beam on Jetta for years. Ford too has been doing the same - the lower end Focus has twist beam while Vignale and ST use IRS. Transit Connect, which is a lower cost Focus van also uses twist beam but C-Max, which is higher cost Focus van had IRS.
Both VW and Ford use the twist beam on their lower hp engines in their Golf & Foci variants. The only Focus that escapes this is the wagon variant, and Active spec'd. Not sure about the Jetta as it is a car that is more rare to see then a Aston Martin DB9
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Obvious to me this is a design fault, as the fix(and North American delayed launch) is months away and the 1st three recall fixes did not work. Ford has to stop with the cutting corners (Hackett) mentality, it is probably costing more in the long term then the short term thinking is saving them.
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3 hours ago, Paradise said:
Can you give the link for Kuga TBS please?
Just google the recall codes for the Ford Kuga and you will find the details
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^ Yes all manufacturers have their recalls.
The Ford Kuga PHEV had 2 recalls already which did not work, lets see if the 3rd one gives customers that new car warm and fuzzy feeling to have the confidence to "plug in"
Recall codes -20S38, 20S44, & 20S51
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WIESBADEN - Saturday, August 29th , 2020 While charging the battery, a plug-in hybrid caught fire and burned out on Saturday afternoon in Biebrich. At 2:40 p.m. the owner had alerted the fire department after noticing crackling and smoke under his new car while charging and then quickly pulled the plug.For the Wiesbaden fire brigade, this was the first time an electric or hybrid car was fired, it said. "Our specialists for electric vehicles have been prepared for such cases for several years, the operation today went very well," said Florian Erbacher from the management service of the professional fire brigade.However, the extinguishing work was made more difficult by the fact that Ford is one of the manufacturers who have not installed an emergency opening for cooling the battery in the vehicle. This limits the possibilities of gaining quick access to the source of the fire.
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13 hours ago, rperez817 said:
This article by Jerry Hirsch highlights how lopsided the profitability of Ford's various products and services are. https://www.trucks.com/2020/06/03/gm-ford-should-shed-models/
And this helps retain customers who used to buy Ford "cars" how?
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2 hours ago, akirby said:
Why does everyone mention losing cars without also mentioning what’s replacing them?Would you rather have (from a business standpoint):
A. Fiesta, Focus, Fusion
B. Mach-E, Ranger, Bronco, Bronco Sport, Maverick, BEV F150/Transit/mid sized utilities
That’s the choice.1.Maybe because they don't consider replacing their apple with an onion. If one likes apples and not onions, why would as you said (everyone) mention the onion choices?
2.Why do you think those everyone's upset with losing their (Ford) car choices need to consider your "from a business standpoint" point of thinking? Or is that a prerequisite to be able to post ones personal vehicle choices on these forums?
IMO, Ford just needs to be a little more heavy handed with their push marketing schemes (All our customers want CUV/SUV PR spiels) directed at those half a million customers who used to purchase their cars. Sales numbers are not looking like those car buyers are buying into the "we all want Ford CUV/SUV" PR spiels" .
But as the hard liners here keep repeating, these half a million ex Fiesta,Focus,C-Max, Taurus, and soon to be Fusion customers are all waiting for these new onion vehicles to replace their preferred apples. Ford hopes you are right.
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I am sure most have seen this
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Bring on the multiple MACH variants ? whatever MACH stands for anymore
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The Chinese spec MK3 Kuga interior design is unique, as EU MK3 Kuga is the same low rent vibe as the North American. Yes the EU ST-Line spec has the slightly better looking front clip, and Vignale albeit still a happy looking chap looks IMO a tad nicer then the lower trim Titanium and Trend front clip.
As far as sales in EU, it's a little early to tell as the first couple months of 2020 when the MK3 begin to make it to dealerships in "some" EU markets. The MK2 Kuga sales as comparison for the months of January and February average around 9,500 units. The MK3 2020 sales for January 2,555 and February 2,413.
Most reviews have said the same as what the North Americans are reporting, nothing standouts, dated interior, nondescript exterior design but the Plug-in-Hybrid gets the pick of the pack.
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The Kuga in the low trims Trend (Zetec in UK) and Titanium have the low rent look, same as the Escape. I think Ford Europe is doing its best not to show pics of the low trim Kuga.
Trend https://www.ford.nl/alle-modellen/kuga/uitvoeringen-specificaties/trend
Titanium https://www.ford.nl/alle-modellen/kuga/uitvoeringen-specificaties/titanium
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16 hours ago, silvrsvt said:
Jim Farl
ey is looking for a name for it!
Slap a Pony emblem on the face and Bob's your Uncle
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How much money did Ford NA save from not having to develop 5 new cars? Actually if using Fords past of what is considered a car then the Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Fusion Sport, Fusion Hybrid & Fusion Plug-in-Hybrid should be added as well. So in total 10 new development program budgets were kept in the accounts right? Never mind the money they are saving by not selling vehicles that they say did not make profits. Never mind the HUGE profits they are making on what they say are BIG profit making vehicles.
But it sure appears that whatever new stuff they are trying to sell (but not Lincoln if Akirby is correct) the penny pinching low rent looking stuff seems to be as obvious as the nose on your face, according to many posters here and the auto-rag reviewers.
Priority budget is what is going into the Focus based Mach-e, the Bronco and wee Bronco? Must be because the new Explorer sure did not seem to get the love, the new Escape and its Hybrid mates don't exude anything special. Lots of old tech still found on them.
Hacketts make as cheap as you can, sell as high as possible mentality is so 80's it's sad.
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2022 Escape Hybrid Fuel Mileage
in Welcome!
Posted · Edited by MKII
Had the Kuga ST-Line X AWD Hybrid for 2 months now and agree the fuel economy is stellar. First tank got over 1,000kms!!
Impressive driver for sure.
Yes that is a tomato on the hood