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  1. Hi BL. Well, not necessarily. Brand new vehicles can have rail dust and other contaminants on the paint which are not visible to the naked eye. Or maybe not. All depends. So you need to properly evaluate your paint for any prep work it may need. And as opposed to waxing, which is virtually...but not completely...idiot proof (why it's what I do?), ceramic coatings do take a certain amount of skill and know how to apply properly. Applied incorrectly, it can truly look terrible, with high spots, dullness, paint distortion etc. And once applied incorrectly, it is not easy to remove, as opposed to waxing. I am not trying to discourage you from applying ceramic coating yourself. Especially since I feel professionally applied ceramic coatings are far too expensive to be used on anything but a show car. Plus...I enjoy waxing and detailing my own vehicles, and don't see the need to have the paint finish of my vehicles outlive me, the electrical systems, electronics, engine and transmission of my cars. A bit of exaggerated sarcasm there...? However, if you decide to do it yourself, I would strongly recommend you do some extensive online research on how to properly apply ceramic coatings, the pitfalls and what too watch out for etc. Then you can avoid the mistakes and do it right. You don't want to screw it up, because it is a witch to remove and redo. Let us know how you make out and good luck.
  2. High JG. Ceramic coating costs can vary wildly, according to the individual or shop doing the job, the quality of the products etc. etc., as you can see here: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=cost+to+ceramic+coat+a+vehicle How long do ceramic coatings last? Well, the general consensus is a good quality job will last ~3 years before needing to be redone. And periodic maintenance is also recommended every ~3 months or so. See here: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=how+long+do+ceramic+automotive+coating+last Ceramic coatings are not the maintenance free paint protection that some owners seem to think they are. Not telling anyone not to do it, only making the information known for those who are not familiar with how long the coatings actually last, as opposed to the marketing and advertising hype and real world costs. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
  3. Hi JO302. As the Owners Manual states, and others have mentioned, the vehicle is designed to run using minimum 87 octane regular and up, but you will get the full advertised HP and Torque using 93 octane premium fuel. More important than 87 or 93 octane, is fuel quality. So use name brand, Top Tier fuel brands, and avoid convenience store/no name fuels whenever possible. Yes, some people will tell you that most fuels come from the same few refineries, etc. etc., and that is true. However it is the fuel additive/detergent packages that make the difference. Name brand/Top Tier fuel companies pay the refineries to add particular additives/detergents to their fuels (additives/detergents which are not added to most cheaper, convenience store brands). Those additives/detergents are what make many/most name brand/Top Tier fuels better for your vehicle engine in the long term. According to the particular driving situation and environment at the moment, using 87 octane may/will dial back certain engine parameters, in order to avoid premature fuel detonation/engine knocking/pinging. That dialing back can result in about out 20-30 less hp (according to vehicle), compared to premium. That is a simplified explanation, of course. 89 and 91 octane fuel power outputs/losses will fall somewhere in between 87 and 93 octanes. For those who care, the fuel economy differences between 87 octane regular and 93 premium are negligible at best. And any small mpg gains obtained by using premium fuel do not make up for the higher cost of premium fuels. In other words, you may get a slight mpg advantage using premium fuel in some cases, but you will pay more per mile for that gain, because of the relatively substantial higher cost of the premium fuel. So if you are not worried about getting full power, if you do not tow with your Navigator, if you do not run it hard a lot or race your Navigator etc. etc., then 87 octane is perfectly fine, according to Lincoln (the people who designed, engineered and built our vehicles). As is 89 or 91 octane. On the other hand, If you need/want full power from your Navigator, then use 93 octane premium. But it is not necessary or required. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
  4. Hi Ralph. Yes, there is no way (from the factory) to permanently disable it. The default is enabled, and it must be disabled on each key cycle. There are some aftermarket OBDII modules available to disable it on a permanent basis. I'm not promoting their use or vouching for any, just making the information known. ? The starter and electrical system are beefed up for the feature, so not much to worry about there. Good luck.
  5. Hi gang. Costco in Central New Jersey. Currently $3.69 for regular. Fuel prices here have been slowly dropping since hitting a high of ~$4.25 in the earlier days of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Good luck.
  6. Hi BL. Then if it was Black Label Dealer, they were mistaken. A Black Label Owner can receive eligible Black Label perks at any Black Label Dealership. Fly safely and good luck.
  7. HI BL. Since it is not clear (to me) whether this was a Black Label or non-Black Label Dealership you went to for the car wash, I will add this to your experiences and observations: Free anytime car washes are only a covered perk at Black Label certified Dealerships. Part of the certification process to become a Black Label Dealer is to have a readily available car wash line or staff for Black Label customers. Non-Black Label Dealerships do not normally have the staff or facilities to provide any time/on-demand car washes. So we purchase a Black Label vehicle from a Black Label certified Dealership, and we can then get free anytime car washes at any Black Label Dealership. However, non-Black Label Dealerships are not required to offer free anytime car washes. They are only required to provide car washes when we have service performed on the vehicle. So if you went to a non-Black Label Dealership for a car wash, Lincoln Concierge certainly went out of their way to help you, since technically, you were not entitled to a car wash there. Unless you had service performed. I know, a lot of if's and but's about what type of Lincoln Dealership it was....? Good luck.
  8. Hi Allen. Again, I am not condoning the Dealer behavior. However, we are all adults and if we do not want to be taken advantage of, we need to be adults and not act like Bambi out in the woods on our own for the first time. If we buy online, we need to then get a signed, purchase contract listing all pricing, options, fees, taxes, other additions etc. Can't see how anyone should argue with that. That is how we protect ourselves. To do otherwise is foolhardy, unless we are on a personal friendship trust level with the Dealership/salesperson.. As vehicle buyers, it is up to us to protect ourselves, our rights and our wallets. So the way I look at it, we can either help others here learn how to do it right (Get a signed contract), or tell them it is the Dealers fault every time they set themselves up to fail and get ripped off. We can "put it back on the dealer" as much as we want, but that is not going to protect anyone. Being older with experience (as you are too), I try to help others learn how to purchase a vehicle in a manner that minimizes the chances of them being disappointed/ripped off, as opposed to telling them it is the other guys fault when they take the easy way out by leaving it open for a Dealer to be dishonest. And again, this goes for buying anything. From a car, to a house, to a chair or baseball glove...lol Ironically, you and I have had discussions in the long ago past, where we disagreed because you were more interested in protecting the feelings of the poor Dealership/salesperson, and I was more interested in getting the prospective customer, (sometimes being me too) the best deal possible. ? In my opinion...Yes, we all need to hold the Dealerships to a higher standard. So we can't leave it up to them...or put it back on them (other than denying them our business). We need to be big boys and girls and not be gullible buyers. Again, I am not excusing or condoning dishonest Dealer practices (or any dishonesty). Simply trying to help other forum members avoid being taken advantage of as much as possible. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ? Typed all the above about 2 hours ago and got sidetracked before hitting "Submit Reply". Good luck Allen. ?
  9. Hi gang. Not condoning dishonest Dealerships (or dishonest anything, for that matter). However, I would add..Customers need to have a little bit of common sense and insist on a purchase contract. All pricing, taxes, fees, etc...and a final purchase price... should be clearly listed. It is foolish for a buyer not to insist on a contract for any purchase, let alone one as expensive as a new vehicle. Anyone who naively agrees to buy anything without a contract is only setting themselves up to be taken advantage of. And if a Dealer refuses to give a fully detailed and signed contract, or stalls/delays, then they should not be trusted. Just another perspective on the subject. Good luck. ?
  10. Hi Allen. Yes, you are correct. The AXZD-Plan rules I linked to were dated "Effective October 13, 2018". However, a newer version of the rules can be found here (dated "Effective March 2, 2022): https://www.jdemmerford.com/ford-x-plan-official-rules.htm Pronoun trouble. ? And here is a direct link to the AXZD-Plan/Partner X-Plan rules from Ford, as opposed to being a Dealer link to the rules: https://www.fordpartner.com/partnerweb/jsp/howitworks/fordpartner_rules.htm#faq26 Good luck.
  11. Hi gang. Just as an FYI, and to avoid confusion: As per Ford's AXZD-Plan rules, Documentation Fees on AXZD-Plan purchases are capped by Ford/Lincoln at $75. AXZD-Plan eligibility also applies to all vehicles, unless specifically excluded by Ford. These exclusions will usually always apply to Special Edition/Limited Edition models such as Ford GT's, Shelbys etc. And sometimes when a brand new model is first introduced. Currently, all vehicles (non-Special Edition), including Escape/Edge/Explorer etc. are eligible for Plan sales. But keep in mind that Dealer participation is voluntary, so an individual Dealer can refuse to accept AXZD-Plan sales on any vehicle they so choose. But they are not excluded by Ford. So if a Dealer is refusing to accept an AXZD-Plan PIN for an Escape/Edge/Explorer etc., it is their choice, not because of Ford. You can find an explanation of all the rules and regulations here: https://www.myplan.ford.com/myplanweb/jsp/howitworks/myplan_az_rules.htm#CanIbechargedadocumentfeedocf Good luck.
  12. Hi bigzaj. In the current world? The reality is...there is no accurate way to answer that question in a way that would help you, with all the pandemic related shortages and shipping delays. It all depends on where it is being shipped to, how it is being shipped (rail, truck/car carrier etc.), weather delays, what other delays may be on that particular route (driver shortages, strikes etc.) and so on and so on. Even if your next door neighbor ordered the exact same vehicle as you, from the same Dealer as you, and got theirs shipped in 10 days last month, it has no bearing on what may happen with yours this month. Or next month. That is how fluid and unpredictable the situation is right now. Hope you get yours as soon as possible and good luck.
  13. Hi Hosftra. Well, not really. These are not limited production vehicles, like a Shelby Mustang etc. The way things are going with commodity shortages and production, there is no guarantee it will be produced "...in the next couple of weeks" anyway, no matter what he was told. And as you mentioned, your friend really has no control over who the Dealer sells the vehicle to once he decides not to purchase it. He has no "right" to sell his place in line, so to speak, because he has no legal "right" to the vehicle itself.. In fact (and in reality), your friend really has no "right" to purchase it in the first place, because the Dealer could decide not to sell the vehicle to him at all, let alone someone he sells his imaginary "rights" to. All the Dealer would need to do is return any deposit he left (if applicable) and it's all over. Also, keep in mind that even if your friend sells his "rights" to the vehicle, he can not guarantee the agreed to price. At least not without the new buyer negotiating this with the Dealership. But you never know until you try. So tell your friend to ask the Dealership. And tell your friend good luck.
  14. Hi tobe. Yes. The "Standard Equipment Included At No Extra Charge" for a trim level is listed on the window sticker in that top box. Then optional additions are listed below. So in the case of this particular Navigator Black Label, the standard equipment grille is a "Grille-Chrome Mesh". However, in the case of this particular order, it has the optional "Monochromatic Grille". So it will have a "Monochromatic Grille" (assuming no odd window sticker error...lol). Good luck.
  15. Hi patsmac. Your question is a bit confusing (to me at least), so I will try to answer it this way: If adaptive steering was not included as either standard or optional equipment on the vehicle that was spec'd in your original order? Then yes, you would need to pay for it if you are adding it now. Good luck.
  16. Hi Xray and thanks for the updated information. Okay bigcam, that explains it. "88R" is a late addition "option". It was not in the previous version I looked though. It is not really an "option" as we think of options. It is really a voluntary delete of the "Standard Luxury Leather Trimmed Front Seats - (with "Multi-contour seat DELETE)", and is recommended for those who want their vehicles now and are willing to live without the multi-contour seats (at least temporarily). This is due to the parts/commodity shortages. So if a buyer chooses this option, their Expedition will not be held up waiting for the Multi-contour seats, and may be able to be scheduled sooner. It does not mention whether the included seats will still be heated/cooled. My guess is yes. But it is simply a guess. Better to ask your Dealership or call Ford Customer Service for an accurate answer (eventually...lol). Good luck.
  17. Hi bigcam. I took a quick look at the Dealer Order Guide and could not find an "88R" option or option package. Good luck.
  18. Hi sajohnson. I completely understand. Everyone's circumstances are different. Which is why I always try to convince others to ask for advice if they like...But no one else is living our life, so in the end, we all need to take our own personal circumstances into account and make a decision based on what is best for our life. I wish you the best of luck!
  19. Hi sajohnson. Assuming you are getting a return better than 0.9% on your Index Fund (jeez...let's hope so?), take the FMC loan, leave the money in the fund and make the monthly payments. When we purchased our 2018 MKZ, Lincoln Motor Credit was offering 0% on their loans (up to 60 months). So we paid off $10,000 on our best member-perks/points credit card (for the points, since we pay it off in full every month anyway) and took the Lincoln Motor Credit loan for the balance. In that way, we were able to keep the balance of the money invested, and pay the loan off at 0% interest over the next 5 years. And if you are not getting >0.9% on your Index Fund? Find a new Financial Consultant. ?? Let us know how you make out and good luck.
  20. Hi Lina. I concur with what they said. However, it is simply conjecture at this point. Good luck.
  21. Hi sajohnson. Through Ford Motor Credit? Not that I have ever heard of or experienced. If a Dealer uses an outside loan source, quite possibly yes. But that should not occur unless an individual has insufficient credit to finance through Ford Motor Credit. Good luck.
  22. Hi Neil. Happy to hear it all worked out! Let us know how things go when your vehicle arrives, and good luck. ?
  23. Hi Neil. If Ford Customer Relations "...got you on the phone with someone at the Dealership...", and now the Dealership is giving you the run-around, then call Ford Customer Relations back and let them know what has happened up until now and that you are getting the runaround. Tell them what you wrote here...i.e. that you called Ford Customer Relations previously, and FCR "got you on the phone with someone at the dealership, who swore up and down that they would never do that, and that he would look into it and get right back with me. I haven't heard from him in several days, and every time I call the dealership they say I need to talk with a different person who doesn't call me back". I would also make these suggestions: - Forget phone calls, emails, texts etc. to the Dealership (if possible). Physically go there. There are better chances of success if we go to the Dealership and deal with people face to face (if possible). It is harder to B.S., spin/lie to a customer when the customer is standing right in front of them. It is also harder for them to tell you so-and-so "is not in today", if you see them sitting at their desk. - You've given them enough time to take care of this, now go to the Dealership and speak to the Sales Manager or General Manager of the Dealership, not the salespeople. - Always ask for and take down the name of everyone you speak to. Ask them how to spell it so they know you are writing it down..."I'm sorry, your name was...?" If you go to the Dealership, bring a small pad, take it out and write their name down in front of them, if you are bad with names. It is often harder for someone to pass the buck if they know their name is involved. Hey, some people are simply dishonest, will lie to your face and don't care, but some people do care and it can make a difference. . Keep us updated and good luck.
  24. Hi Neil. If you have a signed purchase contract with all pricing (including X-Plan) clearly listed, , then what they are doing is unethical and you should push and fight it. Even according to X-Plan rules, a Dealer can not require a Plan buyer to purchase Dealer add-ons. And you should not even be "...willing to wiggle some on my pricing". In addition, according to Ford, a Dealer can get themselves in trouble by Factory/retail ordering a vehicle (thus getting priority manufacturing), then refusing to sell it to the original buyer in order to sell it to another customer for a higher price. You should definitely contact Ford Customer Relations and report them. You can contact the DPS, but not too sure how far that will get you, for various reasons. How far this will all get you is not predictable. Hopefully the threat (and follow through) of you calling Ford will get them to back off their bluff. Let us know how you make out and good luck.
  25. Hi T hawker. Just as an FYI: To keep the proper overall wheel diameter (for wheel-well clearance/fit and speedometer/odometer accuracy), you would need to go from a 40 series tire to a 50 series tire...assuming you keep the same tire width. You would not want to go to a narrower tire, so a 60 series tire would be too tall (by two sizes). For each inch smaller in wheel size, we go one sidewall ratio size taller. So when downsizing from a 20" to 18" inch wheel, that would mean increasing sidewall ratio from a 40 to a 50 series tire. Again, assuming using the same tread width tires for both wheels. Good luck.
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