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I think we can count on the Aviator getting the same looks as the Nautilus. How many times in a row now have they changed the styling and kept the same look across all models? It will surely get the coast to coast dash. My dealer's sales manager tried to talk me out of buying now, telling me I'm taking a loss on F-150 trade in because incentives are high right now on new and trade ins are down. Then, I'll lose money again when the 25 Aviator arrives and I'll want that and lose money yet again.

I never used it until I got my most recent car and haven't had any issues with it. I actually like that it's easier to read the screen compared to the normal Sync where the icons are very small.

They're trying to make the 2.0 work in the Nautilus. I would have preferred they kept the 2.7 or go with the 3.0. That's the main reason I bought a 23 instead of a 24.

I just bought a 23 Black Label. I thought I'd buy the 24 when I went to see it. It looked fantastic in silver, but the 4 cylinder hybrid scared me away. I think it was a standard model with a rather unappealing to me interior. That may have influenced me some. It was very comfortable and the engine was nearly silent. I was planning on an Aviator, but the only one I liked was waiting transit. After several weeks, the Aviator hadn't moved and the Nautilus just gotten off of the truck and still had all of the plastic on it. It was exactly as I would have built it so I grabbed it and got a much better deal then I would have with the Aviator. Here we are 3 weeks later and the Aviator is now at the dealer. I don't have any regrets. The Nautilus drives beautifully.

I got to sit in one at my dealer a few weeks ago. It looks really great in person and is quite comfortable. I sat in both drivers seat and rear seat. Rear seat is quite roomy. The Lincoln spokesman spent quite a while showing how the dash functions. The engine was running all that time and most of the time, it was hard to tell it was running. It had the 2.0. He said they aren't allowing test drives at that time because of very few fully complete vehicles and wern't taking any chances. I put a deposit on an Aviator that was in transit, but after several weeks and zero movement, I went with a 23 Nautilus Black Label that had just arrived. So far, I'm very pleased with it. Getting the 2.7 V6 was worth staying with the 23 IMO.

G M will build one with square fenders some day.

China will have a paint matched top with removable side windows that won't be available in the U S.

I had a 2012 and liked the look of that year. It had sort of a sinister look. After that, they pretty much ruined it.

I like what I've seen so far, other than the interior choices on Black Label. The Chalet is WAY too bright and the red looks horrible at least online. A shame they're not bringing the current ebony/tan to 24. I'd likely choose Reserve with Jet package and Onyx interior. The 4 cylinder engine is the biggest concern for me. I'm alternately thinking of going back to an Aviator.

So, it's not a Focus?

I like #3. The Nautilus will make the Corsair look outdated if they don't bring the new interior design of the Nautilus.

I like them also. The wheels I dislike the most are the ones on the 24 Nautilus with Jet package. Putting shiny bits defeats the whole purpose of the Jet package.

I like the screen design in the upper pic. It's close to the new Nautilus.

Even though F-150 is Ford's flagship, the mid and small size markets are heating up. Ford did well with Maverick. I think they could have done better with Ranger, especially since it's been around for some time. They keep annoying customers with the F-150 by decontenting so many features that shoppers are looking elsewhere. To make things even worse, Ford can't produce their hot products in a timely manor. I gave up after waiting 2 years for a Bronco. I then waited 6 months to get an F-150 and that's with the help of my dealer working with Ford to move my priority up. Last I looked, Ranger sales were down 22%. I'm curious to see if things get better with the new model, since everyone else has something new as well.

That's the Ranger I'd like to see.

I think it's supposed to keep the seat from rocking side to side. Seems like you have to use a bicycle pump to fill it. Might be half baked if you can't just press a button. It may be something like the Bose Ride system they use in big trucks to reduce driver fatigue.

Tacoma has a sunroof ,ventilated seats, power up and down tailgate, a better balance of hard button vs on screen controls, optional white or amber fog lights, lights at the top of the bed. Hybrid has a regular 8 speed transmission.

If they were on an all black truck, I think they'd look good.

1 and 5 are issues for me. I'm pleasantly surprised at 3 engines choices. I thought they'd keep the 2.3 and put the 2.7 in the Raptor. The 3.0 will sell a lot of Raptors.

I always thought dealers liked to sell wheels? This dealer may be mis informed.

I'm most surprised the standard engine is the same as on their entry level model. That fact and being built in China I think will be the 2 biggest obstacles Lincoln faces. With the Corsair at 250HP and Aviator at 400HP, even the hybrid at 310 is on the low side.

I thought there was no deposit required? I know you'll need to pay eventually, but tying up money for a year when you don't have to would be my choice.

Lincoln has been trying to get that number down for some time. With the Nautilus, they hope to attract millennials which leaves both of us out of the picture.

That's pretty much what I was getting at. With a lot more EV's on the roads, the good and bad things are starting to show up. I feel they may tap the brakes a bit and plans will get pushed out a few years.

It sure doesn't sound like she's as sold on EV's as her predecessor and believes ICE will be around much longer. She must be seeing the concerns of first responders after witnessing the result of many accidents that cause fierce fires that take many hours and huge amounts of water to put out. Some of them even rekindle as much as 3 weeks later. Some are wondering weather existing parking structures can handle the increased weight of too many EV's. The weight issue has also been noticed by insurance companies as contributing to more damage. Many areas are not suited for recharging .Back where I came from in New England, the older cities have multi family housing built close together that have little or no room for off street parking and nobody is even guarantied a parking space on the street. How would that customer recharge? Tax credits seem to be going away which will likely be the final nail to really stall EV.