rmc523

c2 didn’t exist when they brought it over or for our 2nd generation …

Yeah i have no idea what that is

sure. But you’re already talking about some of the smallest cars on the road? At that size, id rather have a larger second trunk/frunk than lob another foot off just “because”

True about the markups. But the problem there is you had the “gotta have it”’s buying initially, which was going to wear off at some point. Unless it was production issues leading to low inventory (doesn’t seem like it), I think the “gotta have it” buyers have gotten theirs already so we’re getting into the territory of needing sustainable sales, and constantly jacking up prices for no added value is not a recipe to have sustained sales

americans don’t like small cars unless they HAVE to. Why would you take one of the smaller sized segments on the road and cut a foot off of it just “because”? people don’t want cars that small.

sure but like my earlier example a trim equipped the same exact way increases price by $8k in 2 years with little to no changes, that’s ridiculous. I loved mine too - it was also an ‘09 and had over 150k miles on it when I sold it.

I actually like the profile and look of the R3. It looks more unique vs something g like the ionic 5, which looks too 80s sci-fi

2026 Rivian R2 revealed with over 300 miles of range, 0-60 in 3 seconds - Autoblog Rivian reveals R3, R3X electric SUVs as surprise siblings to R2 - Autoblog I actually like both of them - I know the front is controversial, but I think they have a nice design language.

I think pricing has a lot to do with it - my same trim and options on Ford build and price is listed at $70,275!!! and that's before taxes, etc. Mine 2 years ago almost to the day was $62k out the door including extended warranty. And nothing has been added to justify that extra cost - maybe the Hoss3.0, but that is NOT worth an extra $8k before taxes and additions.......just insane. I'd have had to downgrade a trim or two if I was purchasing now. Yeah, I'm sure the numbers will drop back to "normal" figures, but it's nice to see the model seemingly gain some traction - Lincoln could use some positive momentum, especially with a dry upcoming pipeline aside from the warmed-over Aviator and new Navigator. I saw one on the road the other day, it looks fantastic - so odd that a press embargo would be lifted well after the vehicle went on sale to the public. It truly doesn't make sense...

Chrysler seems like a lost cause, especially with the Airflow being canceled for that weirdo looking concept. Dodge just added Hornet, and a new larger Durango is supposedly on the way (rebodied Wagoneer), with a new "Stealth" model slotting where Durango currently occupies. I'll still never understand why they broke Ram out of Dodge - it never made sense. Predictable sales? In the last 5 years, the midsize sedan segment dropped 2% overall market share (all model types). That's the opposite of predictable.

Here are the color charts. I've never seen a sales thread without any replies!

https://s201.q4cdn.com/693218008/files/doc_news/2024/Mar/04/feb-2024-ford-u-s-sales.pdf Haven't had a chance to update my charts, but i'll hopefully do that this evening... Crazy to see Ranger sold 0 last month. I remember seeing that the '24s are being held? Nautilus sales jumped 95% - it'd be awesome to see the new model take off.

Shouldn't this be in the competition section?

The problem is, they'll constantly be finding ways to do it more efficiently.....at some point you need to come out with product and THEN improve it. It's like if you want the new iPhone, you can always make an argument for "I'll wait for the next one" ....except you do that for a few years and suddenly you have an iphone 7 that barely works when they're on iphone 54......at a certain point you just need to pull the trigger and make improvements from there.

Nissan, Fisker in advanced talks on investment, partnership - Autoblog Nissan is in advanced talks to invest in electric vehicle maker Fisker in a deal that could provide the Japanese automaker with access to an electric pickup truck while giving the struggling startup a financial lifeline, according to two people familiar with the negotiations. The deal could close this month, said the sources, who asked not to be identified because the talks are ongoing and have not been finalized. Terms being discussed include Nissan investing more than $400 million in Fisker's truck platform and building Fisker's planned Alaska pickup starting in 2026 at one of its U.S. assembly plants, one of the sources said. Nissan would build its own electric pickup on the same platform, the source said. Nissan has U.S. assembly plants in Mississippi and Tennessee.

I don't know - much like the "concept" - this thing really doesn't do anything for me. I think my problem stems from how design-wise it seems more like a refresh rather than some leap of design to a next generation. It looks like they took a Challenger front end and grafted it onto a Charger and called it a day.

2024 Dodge Charger revealed: 2-door EV this year, 4-door and inline-6 next year - Autoblog

The key for Maverick was that they leveraged an existing platform and essentially made a new top hat for it. I fully understand BEVs are a whole different animal and require a re-thinking, but I feel they absolutely could fill in some gaps with the "Maverick" approach in the meantime.

What I find crazy is that they were able to very quickly develop/approve Maverick, and that somehow remains the only product to come from that "faster thinking" process - everything else has reverted back to ancient timelines and never-ending delays.

That bottom thing is horrid lol.

I remember the original “E-Max” sketches that came out. Definitely would’ve been a compliance model

FWIW, even he put a ? in his post title over at GMI. So he doesn't even know for sure. I really find it hard to believe they're pushing products back another 2 years.

Bah humbug.

I always enjoyed his information and speculation. The problem was, everything he said was gospel, and even the slightest "Hmm, you sure?" or discussion resulted in a fit on his part.

This would be an absurd decision, IF true (given the source and above commentary, it's a good if). I'm a proponent of making sure a product is right, but when you talk continual shifts in timelines, at a certain point, you'd have to have something out, even if it's not perfect.