mtptuc

Hah, if you believe even those dates, you're on a better path than some of us :(. My Platinum F350 has a sticker date 8/18, released to prod 8/28, "built" 9/30 where it has sat for a month and a half, so far. Latest email 10/18 changed the est delivery date from 10/15-21 to 12/12-18. They really have no real clue.

Desert rat, here, too. While I originally ordered Carbonized, I too started thinking I was seeing too many grays, so I change it to Antimatter a few weeks into my order. I like the changing color based on lighting, which I get that with my '16 Bronze Fire (which looks burgundy in some light, brown in other). If anything, I hope the darker color will motivate my lazy ass to get out the foam cannon a bit more frequently.

2016 F250 Lariat PSD SB that I'm still driving until the 22 Platinum F350 ordered early Feb (that I'll get jacked up and customized) . Gonna miss this truck: with only 50K miles it still looks and runs like I just picked it off the lot. I wish they'd bring back Bronze Fire. That with Caribou under color really was a nice combo, but so is the Antimatter Blue that's on order. If I don't talk myself into keeping it as an expensive extra toy, I'll sell it privately. I'm in AZ and the new truck is from a dealer in GA, so won't be driving it across the continent to trade it. With low miles and 2 more years ESP, it'll be worth a lot more privately, even with the sales tax savings scam they use to drive down trade prices.

That is the question -- pay MSRP (and probably additional garbage fees also forgone by X-Plan), or wait. In my case, a local Tucson dealer from whom I've bought 3 was playing the MSRP + 4K 'market adjustment' game and would not honor X-Plan even on a build, so he quickly became my ex-dealer and I ordered with X-Plan from a dealer from GA (whom I'd like to customize it anyway). Are you good with waiting 4-6 (or more?) months for a build? You only have a few days left with order banks now officially closing on 22's 4/1, so who knows when 23's orders will be open. Of course that may be another reason to wait and just build -- if you can handle the unknown there.

Your dealer should be taking care of arguing all of this :(. My PCO (though only $2K on a SuperDuty has similar language to the prior post. It also shows as a line item on the order confirmation from my dealer (in addition to X-Plan price, so it is not just some general discount off of MSRP or other mythical starting value; in fact, I did not mention it until we already nailed the X-Plan price), so there's no way Ford can back out of this one. Sure would love to find out how to get a $3500 version of it, though! Perhaps I need to go to the site and build a few more trucks, which may have triggered the current one. It was either that or general loyalty because it also contained $1250 for an Edge (though I'm done with Edge after the runaround we got from Ford on a '16 lemon). At any rate here's the disclaimer on my snail-mailed PCO:

I have had them (bought online, at cost, rather than at highway-robbery finance manager rates) on 2008 and 2016 F250 diesels. Both paid for themselves -- the 2008 had some engine issues and had the cab off twice, plus 2 radiator r&r's (among other smaller things), and the '16 had a DPF failure last year (not sure if that might have been covered under the powertrain warranty though since it was right around 5 years; either way, it would have been 5K). I have a '22 F350 diesel on order and that too will have an ESP. Since the 16's is still in force (8 year), that is also a very good selling point since it's transferable. I'll have a '16 with only 50K miles to sell, and it will still have 3 years worth of warranty; nearly a new truck to the nextbuyer. And if one trades in their vehicle, you can always cancel the ESP early, and receive a prorated refund of remaining time. Diesel-only, I think they are well worth it if buying smartly. Resist the urge of the fast-talking finance manager and do not buy from him. He's always lying :). And NEVER buy a non-ESP warranty.

You guys have me stoked with all the pics! Thanks for all of your posts! Now my waiting begins -- ordered a Platinum F350 Carbonized/Marsala yesterday to replace a '16 F250, whose Bronze Fire/Caribou combo I will miss -- enough to maybe keep it! I would have gotten another in that color in a heartbeat. My luck is they bring it or something similar back in 23 or 24 and I'll be prematurely replacing this one just for that color again. God knows when this thing will be built but after being on the fence for a long time, I couldn't take it any longer and had to place the order! It's nice to see several in Carbonized and Marsala examples in here, with positive comments from both owners and others. That Marsala interior always looks so red in pictures, but it's been browner when I've seen it on a few on the lots. Nowhere near as brown as KR leather, but far enough from red for me. Hoping they find me a browner cow :).