twintornados

I like it.....and I like the fact the Ford will push the styling envelope just enough to make people go...."what the...." or "Hmmmm..." or "Ugh....."

Is it me? Or do the doors look shorter...

Yes it would, as long as it ties in with "Ford. Drive one."

While "EcoBoost" (however you pronounce it) sounds more environmentally friendly, Twin Force reminds me of a saturday morning cartoon special....."Twin Force power.....UNITE!!!!!"

Sure is quiet on this thread....must be someone is taking a "wizzzzzzz"......

missed it....thanks RMC

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/S...20News/2173309/ Looks like Dollar/Thrifty wants a solid back up to Chrysler purchases...

You're right RMC....Drive One is the "modern take" on "Have you driven a Ford lately."...thank god that is the slogan they went with, one of the other ideas was called, "Doing the Henry"....yikes!!!

As long as you don't look at the front suspension.....

I honestly believe that any redesign of Econoline will take those existing "hard points" and incorporate them into the new design, so that the upfitters that make a lot of profit from Econoline will continue to do so.

I can see them re-designing the front suspension and finally lose the twin I beams....

I think you guys are missing the point....when (not if) Ford re-engineers Econoline, they will bring in all the upfitters so they can have input into the design process so that Ford will continue to dominate the segment for decades to come.

This has to take top honors as the dumbest post of the week...possibly the month, or even year....what the f@#& does "muslim built" mean?? And for the love of god....no one thinks it is intended to replace E-Series.

True...but if, say, the seats got improved with the help of Volvo technology to mitigate any whiplash and protect the occupants, then Ford could, and should exploit that connection.

The only way a 2010 Transit will be in the US is at a Ford "Skunkwerks" project building as they work to integrate Transit and Econoline into "One Ford" But as for general sale.....Richard is 1000% correct!

Econoline is an enigmatic vehicle in Fords lineup.....a true work horse, and they sell a ton of 'em...but you don't see a lot of them at "XYZ Ford Store"....a kinda "behind the scene" machine that is a profit maker for Ford. They haven't been "re-engineered" in decades, makes the Panther look young in comparison...is the last hold out for Twin I Beam (thats right Wiz...I said Twin I Beam!) So, any changes will significantly alter the landscape of modern work-a-day America....Ford must be very careful when replacing this stalwart.....she will not go quietly into the night for sure!

The full size van market is a valuable market to Ford, I am sure that when they redesign Econoline and Transit into a "One Ford" chassis sharing program Ford will consult with their partners to ensure that there is a smooth transition to the new version. As for naming...I would be betting that in the North American market, the name Econoline will continue to be used on any "One Ford" replacement to the segment.

Richard, if you go to the Ford website, you will find that the the E350 is indeed available as a "regular" cargo van, E450 models are available as chassis/cab only. http://www.commtruck.ford.com/

http://apps.dealerconnection.com/dealers/l...lerPACode=08559 Here is a cut -n- paste of the above link to an actual 2008 E150 Econoline van.....I highlighted the appropriate section below. Enjoy your pablum Wiz!!! ******************************************************************************** ****************************************** Disclaimer: This window sticker is only representative of the information contained on an actual window sticker, and may or may not match the actual Window Sticker on the vehicle itself. Please see your retailer for further information. Vehicle Description VIN 1FTNE14L98DA11584 ECONOLINE 2008 E150 CARGO VAN 5.4L EFI V8 ENGINE ELECT. 4-SPD AUTO O/D TRANS Exterior OXFORD WHITE CLEARCOAT Interior MEDIUM FLINT Standard Equipment INCLUDED AT NO EXTRA CHARGE EXTERIOR . INTERVAL WIPERS . SOLAR TINTED GLASS . HINGED SIDE CARGO DOOR . SEALED HALOGEN HEADLAMPS . LT225/75R16E BSW TIRES . MANUAL TELESCOPIC TT MIRRORS . SPARE TIRE AND WHEEL . BLK NOSTRIL BAR GRILLE . BUMPERS, BLACK INTERIOR . AM/FM STEREO W/CLOCK . TILT STEERING WHEEL . TACHOMETER . VINYL FRONT HEADLINER . DUAL VINYL BUCKET SEATS . CENTER & REAR CARGO LIGHT . FRONT VINYL FLOOR COVERING . AIR COND, MANUAL FRONT FUNCTIONAL . TWIN I-BEAM INDEPENDENT FRONT SUSPENSION . ELEC THROTTLE CTRL . POWER STEERING . HANDLING PACKAGE . AUX TRANSMISSION COOLER . POWERPOINT, FRONT . 35 GALLON FUEL TANK SAFETY/SECURITY . 4-WHEEL ANTI-LOCK DISC BRAKING SYSTEM . DRIVER/PASSENGER AIR BAGS . PRETENSIONING FRT SEATBLTS . SIDE IMPACT DOOR BEAMS . HIGH MOUNT STOP LAMP WARRANTY . 3YR/36000 BUMPER TO BUMPER . 5YR/60,000 POWERTRAIN . 5YR/60,000 ROADSIDE ASSIST Price Information MSRP STANDARD VEHICLE PRICE $23,725 Optional Equipment 138 INCH WHEELBASE 2008 MODEL YEAR OXFORD WHITE CLEARCOAT MEDIUM FLINT VINYL PREFERRED EQUIPMENT PKG.740A .STANDARD TRIM .AIR COND FRT ONLY-CFC FREE .ELEC AM/FM STEREO W/CLOCK .16" SPORT WHEEL COVER .16" STEEL WHEEL - SRW 5.4L EFI V8 ENGINE $975 ELECT. 4-SPD AUTO O/D TRANS .LT225/75RX16E BSW ALL-SEASON 3.55 RATIO REGULAR AXLE X29 COMMERCIAL CARGO VAN PACKAGE $1,125 .SPEED CONTROL .MIRRORS, PWR RH & LH EXTERIOR .BLACK REAR STEP BUMPER .POWER GROUP .REMOTE KEYLESS ENT/PANIC ALAR COMMERCIAL VAN PACKAGE DISC. $-1,125 FRONT LICENSE PLATE BRACKET VINYL FLR CVRG, FRONT & REAR $65 SWNGOUT SD/FIX RRCARGO SIDEFLP $185 8600# GVWR PACKAGE DULUXE ENG CVR CONSOLE C/K $40 TRAILER TOWING PKG CLASS I DOOR, SLIDING SIDE CARGO $100 INSIDE REARVIEW MIRROR QUIET FLEX COMPOSITE RAX&BINS TOTAL VEHICLE & OPTIONS $25,090 DESTINATION & DELIVERY $870 TOTAL MSRP $25,960 Disclaimer: Option pricing will be blank for any item that is priced as 0 or "No Charge". Estimated Annual Fuel Cost: $ CITY MPG HIGHWAY MPG Vehicle Engine Information NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS UNIT Actual mileage will vary with options, driving conditions, driving habits and vehicle's condition. Results reported to EPA indicate that the majority of vehicles with these estimates will achieve between and mpg in the city and between and mpg on the highway. For Comparison Shopping all vehicles classified as have been issued mileage ratings from to mpg city and to mpg highway.

What do you know....you think that the E150 models don't have twin I beam suspension ....when Ford replaces Econoline....the whole lineup will get changed out. The only thing that may possibly remain is the name itself.

My feeling is that in the North American market place...it will be named Econoline....

PS...for the record, I think Ford should keep Volvo as well. It has a a "safety cache" that, if done correctly, would enhance Fords image in a tightly competitive marketplace....but, these are extraordinary times. Remember the "Powered by Ford" valve covers of yore?? How about "Active Safety System by Volvo" on a tag stitched into the seam of a headrest. of emblazoned discreetly on the deck lid of "XYZ" model....

You can replace "Volvo" with "Jaguar" in the above statement to describe what was the line of thinking around the time Ford got rid of Jag/LM.....fast forward to "now" and lets see how Jaguar is doing......um, never mind.....

yeah.....just what I thought...silence

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseC...7622&EDATE= Which begs the question...if Ford is going to "can" Ranger....why? Maybe a reprieve has again been ordered?