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I doubt the 2.3 costs much, if any, more than the 2.0 to build. The 2.0 probably will add a mile or two more EPA mileage rating.

Take it out of the garage every once in a while! You know what mechanics say - if you have a German car that doesn’t have the check engine light on, you don’t have a German car.

The problem with Mach E is that it loses money and why would Ford invest a lot of money to update it when there isn’t a return on investment. Investments need to go to ICE vehicles and CE1.

The 6.8 weighs about 85 lbs more than the 5.0. I imagine an aluminum version would weigh about the same. Ford will need to respond to the GM 6.6 as it is rumored to put out 475 hp.

Although the 5.0 is smaller in displacement vs the Chevy V-8, it is a much bigger engine physically. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ford offer the 6.8 or even 7.3 OHV in the next gen F150.

CE1 will supposedly start at $30k. If you want AWD and better range, which most likely will, you’re likely looking at 35 to 40k. Ford is hoping that they can make a profit on CE1 models, no claim has been made that I’m aware of that it will be more profitable than ICE models. Plus, as has been mentioned it should be relatively easy for Ford to use some of the cost savings methods learned in developing CE1 on ICE models.

Yes but the post I was replying to suggested “folding the next gen Maverick into the CE1 platform”.

Because an EV Maverick would sell at less than half the rate as the current model and would cannibalize CE1 sales.

I imagine the EPA would have an issue with Ford shitting it down.

I don’t think a crossover will fit (too tall) at Flat Rock.

It does , but where would it be made?

A 4 door Mustang will apparently come to fruition. I don’t remember any Ford officials intimating a non EV Mustang crossover

Of course dumping the Edge was “moronic”. It was simply long in the tooth. A new Edge on C2 was needed. Instead it was dropped and the plant was reconfigured twice at a cost of hundreds of millions. Plus zero revenue for the past two years. It will take years for Ford to recoup those dollars making the Super Duty.

It does regarding Escape but not Edge.

If memory serves correct, the last new model that was introduced was the Maverick and that’s been 5 years ago.

Edge has far more cargo space. 9.5 cubic feet more behind the second row of seats and 13.7 more with rear seats folded. Mustang does have a 4.7 cubic foot frunk.

My experience has been great for both the 2.0 and 2.5 engines. I sold my 2011 Fusion with the 2.5 (purchased new) at 340,000 miles. Absolutely no engine issues. Still had original belts, hoses, alternator and starter. Nothing but 2 sets of plugs. My 2015 2.0 Edge has 232,000 miles with no issues. Still original including the spark plugs. My 2.0 Maverick has been trouble free other than the transmission.

Other manufacturers aren’t having anywhere near the issues with supplier quality as Ford, which leads to the conclusion that Ford is designing inferior parts to be manufactured or is squeezing suppliers to the point that quality control is significantly compromised. Most likely some of both and/or Ford is the world’s worst at selecting suppliers.

Mach E probably isn’t long for this world, at least on its current platform. I don’t see Ford spending money to update it as it is now.

I don’t like it either but guess that it’s a cost containment decision.

Some details about the CE1 truck according to Borg: Some other interesting things about the Skunktruck that are very Tesla like. There are no trim levels, just a few option packages focusing on Blue Cruise and Upgraded Seats. There will be 3 wheel options and RWD or AWD. Lots of Ford Accessories to buy at the dealer. All the speakers are in the dashboard and uses the windshield for acoustic deflection (like a HomePod) to fill the entire cabin with sound. It even has a single force canceling subwoofer (you can see it in the PR video btw). it has a single large screen in the center of the dashboard, no IP. It has an upgraded e-latch system with integrated mechanical releases to simplify the safety override. It doesn’t look like it will have a glass roof at all however, which I find disappointing with such a spacious cab. There is just a tremendous amount of lean design innovation, all pretty interesting to talk about, perhaps more will trickle out of the Ford PR machine before the final launch.

Not a bad idea, but isn’t there already enough capacity for a Lincoln model right now?

If Ford is bringing a new Maverick out in 2 years, this truck won’t be replacing it.

Farley has indicated there will not be a NG BEV F 150

I don’t think so. Ford is already making all the Broncos that the market demands.