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14 hours ago, Joe771476 said:
If either figure is true, Ford is doing something terribly wrong!
There’s more than just light bulbs in those taillight assemblies these days. They also have sensors (e.g, BLIS), and some have indicators to tell you what your payload/tongue weight is.
I’m guessing that those figures are all-in costs, though, which probably includes bodywork and harness replacement costs—it’s not like your local tweeker is going to take the time to unplug a connector when he can just cut the harness.
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8 minutes ago, jpd80 said:
What about a big ass V12 version of the Godzilla with say, 10 or 11 litres capacity to give 750-800 lb ft?
Aren’t V-12s normally 60-degree Vs? If so, it wouldn’t make sense to base it on a 90-degree V8; you’d want to build it off something that’s already 60-degrees, like the 35EB.
Also, it seems to me that the big V8s are already pretty well stuffed into the engine compartments of the Super Duties, so adding four extra cylinders to the length might present fitment problems.
‘Tis an interesting idea, though…
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14 hours ago, rmc523 said:
That makes sense - I was referring more to the frame, etc. They're not going to wildly recreate all of that just because it's an EREV - they're going to use it as a starting point and modify from there.
Look how long it took them to go to a boxed frame under the Super Duties, and even then, it’s only boxed under the nose/cab because so many upfitters build on those C-channel frames. If they wildly recreate the EREV truck, they’ll completely cut it off from that segment of the market, which Ford obviously sees as consequential.
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I had to run down to Norman this afternoon, so I filled up before heading back. $2.46/gal for E10/87.
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I paid $2.50/gal for E10/87 at the east side Sam’s in Tulsa this evening.
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6 hours ago, Rick73 said:
Perhaps an aluminum 6.8L V8 would make sense on lighter-duty vehicles if emissions and fuel-economy regulations are relaxed enough by current administration.
I wouldn’t expect the auto manufacturers to change course based on what this administration does, at least as far as CAFE targets go. Unless Congress acts, anything one administration does can be undone by the next, so they pretty much have to assume that current targets would come back if this administration alters them.
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4 hours ago, Rick73 said:
IMO a hybrid SD could attract buyers who drive mostly in cities/traffic, and rarely tow large trailers at highway speeds for long distances. It won’t be for everyone, but if done right I’d bet demand is there.
I thought all along that this was the killer application for the Baby Godzilla. With the hybrid powertrain, it would tow like a freight train in town, plus you could use it to power the job site when you get there.
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6 hours ago, Captainp4 said:
Would it make sense to expand cd6 with a 'halo' Continental
I think there’s a market there, but it’s probably not big enough to justify the investment. If it had been, we’d probably still have the last iteration of the Conti in the stable, so I don’t see them going back to it.
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5 hours ago, jpd80 said:
Not even close.
The two main profit earners for Ford just before Nasser left was F Series and Bronco, everything else was either break even or small profit.
Even with consolidating Panther production in Canada with cheaper Labor costs, the writing was on the wall. Ford could skip designing next Gen Panthers and RWD Explorer simply by rebranding the FWD/AWD D3s as Taurus and Explorer as their replacements.
Yeah, the word from Ford insiders was that DEW-98’s fate was sealed as soon as the LS was slated for assembly at Wixom, because it had no chance of becoming profitable. IIRC, Wixom was Ford’s highest rated plant in the US when it came to product quality, but I guess it was just a super expensive plant to run.
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3 hours ago, Sherminator98 said:
You’re actually wrong about that-the Panther was counted as an imported car to the US to get around CAFE.
I’m not wrong. The statement about the Escort being a CAFE offset for the Crown Vic was true when it was reported, and that was the joke at the time.
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7 hours ago, DeluxeStang said:
I guess you had the Lincoln Town car, which was almost certainly a profit monster being sold on the same platform.
The closest I ever got to owning a Panther was my ‘66 Galaxie. Back in the mid- to late-‘80s and well into the ‘90s, the Crown Vic was the top of the Ford lineup. Don’t confuse the fleet queen that it was at the end of its life with what it was in its heyday.
Back then, it was what the older folks (think Greatest Generation) drove when they had money to spend on cars.
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42 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:
I'm kinda stunned hearing that. The crown Vic was a relatively basic fleet sedan. Never expected them to be super profitable, but you learn something new everyday.
It wasn’t a basic fleet sedan back in the ‘90s.
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On 1/24/2025 at 8:35 PM, akirby said:
That’s what they did for decades. Remember them telling Mulally they were losing $3k on every Focus?
Back in the ‘90s, they said that Ford was actually losing money on the Escort, and it only existed to be a CAFE offset for the profitable Crown Vic. The joke was that between the CAFE offset and the profits from the Crown Vic, they could put an Escort in the trunk of every Crown Vic and still turn a profit.
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9 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said:
I think the complexity of the Ecoboosts, as well as the Coyote scare some departments away vs the simplicity of the GM V-8's.
Given the ubiquity of the Explorer Police Interceptor, I don’t think any departments are scared of the complexity of the EcoBoosts or the Coyote.
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12 hours ago, 02MustangGT said:
Why wouldn’t Ford admit to CAFE regulations being the only factor in not building/selling more Mustangs.
Because saying “we don’t want to sell more Mustangs due to CAFE compliance issues” is a really good way to not sell even more Mustangs.
Also, I don’t see where anyone is saying that CAFE is the only (or even a primary) factor in lower sales, they’re just saying it is a factor in why Ford is not overly concerned about it.
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There’s a former Chebbie dealership not far from my office that Amazon uses as a parking lot, and their local distribution center is maybe two football fields away as the crow flies in the other direction. I haven’t seen any Rivian vans, but I do see a heck of a lot of blue Transits and Sprinters, though not as many ProMasters.
I’m not seeing nearly as many out of state rentals with Amazon magnets on the side as I used to, but there are still a few. They do have a bunch of blue box trucks parked in the old Chebbie dealership lot, but I couldn’t tell you their makes off the top of my head.
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11 minutes ago, tbone said:
it’s one thing to not necessarily pay for it on the 2024 model, but moving forward I think these kind of small things are something that should be part of a running change on the next model year as far as I’m concerned. It’s a small change that makes the entire situation disappear.
Yeah, if they can throw it in for free when you buy a Ford accessory, they ought to be able to incorporate it as a revision to the design at minimal cost. I don’t know if compliance issues would allow them to add it as a running change, but they should at least be able to add it for the next model year.
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1 hour ago, CurtisH said:
My brother, like me, is short. He mentioned the steering wheel being too high and upright. That may not be an issue for taller people. I haven’t sat in it, so I can’t offer an opinion.
I never found the steering wheel position to be a problem in our Transits, but I’m 6’2”, and I normally have a problem with the steering wheel not going up high enough. I also greatly prefer the cabin of the Transit over the E-Series; it has much better legroom and the doghouse doesn’t intrude nearly as much.
FWIW, we have one Sprinter in our fleet for development work on a particular piece of equipment, and everyone hates it.
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34 minutes ago, tbone said:
I think the point is, these types of uses are not unreasonable, and pretty typical. Ford should have known better, especially when they like to emphasize their truck’s capabilities, but they can’t handle these basic tasks without support brackets? Not particularly impressive.Oh, I agree that it’s a design flaw, but every vehicle ever made has some kind of design flaw. We just don’t expect the manufacturers to fix them for free unless they’re a safety issue. I think they probably ought to, but I don’t think they have to.
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On 1/9/2025 at 5:30 PM, Deanh said:
for the life of me I cannot understand why it isnt a recall
It’s not a recall because it’s only a capability issue, not a safety issue. I think they probably ought to do something about it as a goodwill gesture, but it’s not really their responsibility to address a capability that the stock truck was not designed to have.
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I paid $2.54/gal for E10/87 at the east side Sam’s in Tulsa on Wednesday evening.
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On 12/20/2024 at 10:42 PM, Biker16 said:
Nothing to show for it?
They claim that charging stations have come online, but I don’t see any evidence that they came online because of the billions of dollars spent by the Feds. Back in March, the Washington Post reported that the Feds had spent over $7B to open a grand total of seven charging stations in two years, so I have a hard time believing that the Feds opened 12,000 charging stations since then.
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12 hours ago, ice-capades said:
There aren't many municipal police departments that have a need for full-size police SUV's other than the larger size departments.
There are a heck of a lot of cop Tahoes around here. I couldn’t tell you the last time I saw a cop Expedition, despite the fact that this state is lousy with cop Explorers/PIUs.
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$2.26/gal for E10/87 at the east side Sam’s in Tulsa this evening.
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If you mean the “law” that they have to provide parts for ten years, that’s an urban legend, not a law.