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42 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:
I'm kinda stunned hearing that. The crown Vic was a relatively basic fleet sedan. Never expected them to be super profitable, but you learn something new everyday.
It wasn’t a basic fleet sedan back in the ‘90s.
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On 1/24/2025 at 8:35 PM, akirby said:
That’s what they did for decades. Remember them telling Mulally they were losing $3k on every Focus?
Back in the ‘90s, they said that Ford was actually losing money on the Escort, and it only existed to be a CAFE offset for the profitable Crown Vic. The joke was that between the CAFE offset and the profits from the Crown Vic, they could put an Escort in the trunk of every Crown Vic and still turn a profit.
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9 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said:
I think the complexity of the Ecoboosts, as well as the Coyote scare some departments away vs the simplicity of the GM V-8's.
Given the ubiquity of the Explorer Police Interceptor, I don’t think any departments are scared of the complexity of the EcoBoosts or the Coyote.
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12 hours ago, 02MustangGT said:
Why wouldn’t Ford admit to CAFE regulations being the only factor in not building/selling more Mustangs.
Because saying “we don’t want to sell more Mustangs due to CAFE compliance issues” is a really good way to not sell even more Mustangs.
Also, I don’t see where anyone is saying that CAFE is the only (or even a primary) factor in lower sales, they’re just saying it is a factor in why Ford is not overly concerned about it.
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There’s a former Chebbie dealership not far from my office that Amazon uses as a parking lot, and their local distribution center is maybe two football fields away as the crow flies in the other direction. I haven’t seen any Rivian vans, but I do see a heck of a lot of blue Transits and Sprinters, though not as many ProMasters.
I’m not seeing nearly as many out of state rentals with Amazon magnets on the side as I used to, but there are still a few. They do have a bunch of blue box trucks parked in the old Chebbie dealership lot, but I couldn’t tell you their makes off the top of my head.
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11 minutes ago, tbone said:
it’s one thing to not necessarily pay for it on the 2024 model, but moving forward I think these kind of small things are something that should be part of a running change on the next model year as far as I’m concerned. It’s a small change that makes the entire situation disappear.
Yeah, if they can throw it in for free when you buy a Ford accessory, they ought to be able to incorporate it as a revision to the design at minimal cost. I don’t know if compliance issues would allow them to add it as a running change, but they should at least be able to add it for the next model year.
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1 hour ago, CurtisH said:
My brother, like me, is short. He mentioned the steering wheel being too high and upright. That may not be an issue for taller people. I haven’t sat in it, so I can’t offer an opinion.
I never found the steering wheel position to be a problem in our Transits, but I’m 6’2”, and I normally have a problem with the steering wheel not going up high enough. I also greatly prefer the cabin of the Transit over the E-Series; it has much better legroom and the doghouse doesn’t intrude nearly as much.
FWIW, we have one Sprinter in our fleet for development work on a particular piece of equipment, and everyone hates it.
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34 minutes ago, tbone said:
I think the point is, these types of uses are not unreasonable, and pretty typical. Ford should have known better, especially when they like to emphasize their truck’s capabilities, but they can’t handle these basic tasks without support brackets? Not particularly impressive.Oh, I agree that it’s a design flaw, but every vehicle ever made has some kind of design flaw. We just don’t expect the manufacturers to fix them for free unless they’re a safety issue. I think they probably ought to, but I don’t think they have to.
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On 1/9/2025 at 5:30 PM, Deanh said:
for the life of me I cannot understand why it isnt a recall
It’s not a recall because it’s only a capability issue, not a safety issue. I think they probably ought to do something about it as a goodwill gesture, but it’s not really their responsibility to address a capability that the stock truck was not designed to have.
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I paid $2.54/gal for E10/87 at the east side Sam’s in Tulsa on Wednesday evening.
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On 12/20/2024 at 10:42 PM, Biker16 said:
Nothing to show for it?
They claim that charging stations have come online, but I don’t see any evidence that they came online because of the billions of dollars spent by the Feds. Back in March, the Washington Post reported that the Feds had spent over $7B to open a grand total of seven charging stations in two years, so I have a hard time believing that the Feds opened 12,000 charging stations since then.
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12 hours ago, ice-capades said:
There aren't many municipal police departments that have a need for full-size police SUV's other than the larger size departments.
There are a heck of a lot of cop Tahoes around here. I couldn’t tell you the last time I saw a cop Expedition, despite the fact that this state is lousy with cop Explorers/PIUs.
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$2.26/gal for E10/87 at the east side Sam’s in Tulsa this evening.
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Remember Pearl Harbor. 7 December, 1941.
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— the message carved on Tojo’s false teeth when he was hung, literally the last words in his mouth.
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FWIW, TFLTruck got a response from Ford, and they have no plans to bring it to the US, which makes sense as there’s way too much overlap between the Super Duty Ranger and the F-150 in the capability department. -
Most of the local stations jumped up to $2.55, but the east side Sam’s was still at $2.28/gal for E10/87 when I filled up yesterday evening.
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$2.41 for 87/E10 at the east side Sam’s in Tulsa this evening.
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19 hours ago, tbone said:
While I don’t disagree there was pent up demand for Toyota customers, I drive by a Toyota dealer for work, and I have regularly seen representation of Fords, GMs, and Rams in the trade in lot, so it’s not all Tundras being traded. I know these are arbitrary observations, but I’m not exaggerating when I say I have seen a ton of new Tundras in my area.
Those “trade-ins” aren’t necessarily trade-ins. I’d wager that a bunch of them came from the auction.
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On 10/18/2024 at 10:14 AM, DeluxeStang said:
It's a doorway into truck utility without having to pay the truck tax. I have a truck bed now, but I'm not getting 12 mpg or having to pay 2 grand for maintenance items every so often.
In eleven years and over 200,000 miles, I’ve never paid “2 grand” for any maintenance items on my F-150. Even a full set of tires doesn’t come close. Heck, I just priced a set for my truck vs. a set for my Flex, and the Michelins for my truck are about $100/tire cheaper. The brakes are also among the least expensive and easiest I’ve ever done. Economies of scale will do that for ya—when they sell 500K-600K units per year with parts that cross multiple generations of trucks, parts become inexpensive and plentiful.
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I paid $2.59/gal for E10 87 in Tulsa yesterday morning, then $2.36/gal for E10 87 (after $0.10/gal discount) in Norman yesterday afternoon.
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I paid $2.54/gal for E10/87 last night in Sapulpa.
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Gas prices at the east side Sam’s Club in Tulsa have been holding steady at $2.62/gal for E10 87 for a week or two now. The place I normally buy gas in Norman is down to $2.46 (without the $0.05/gal discount).
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2 hours ago, blazerdude20 said:
it appears that the center arm rest either has a power up/down feature or a power slide feature.
It has a power slide function that exposes a cubby with an optional safe (looks like a Ford-branded ConsoleVault).
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$2.55 for E10/87 yesterday evening in Tulsa.
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Ford Wants to Be 'The Porsche of Off-Road'
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Posted · Edited by SoonerLS
The closest I ever got to owning a Panther was my ‘66 Galaxie. Back in the mid- to late-‘80s and well into the ‘90s, the Crown Vic was the top of the Ford lineup. Don’t confuse the fleet queen that it was at the end of its life with what it was in its heyday.
Back then, it was what the older folks (think Greatest Generation) drove when they had money to spend on cars.