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  1. mustangchief

    Ordered: 2020 Aviator

    Congrats on the new ride, it looks superb...😍
  2. mustangchief

    Ordered: 2020 Aviator

    There is a touch area lock at the bottom of the keypad, you can lock it from your phone also. The exhaust exiting down should make it appear to be floating on a cloud. we'll see soon.
  3. mustangchief

    Build quality worries

    Every day I drive over the road I made the video of in the other thread I wish I had the Aviator back. Sometimes you don't know what you miss until it is gone. It was not perfect, but the ride was head and shoulders over my other rides.
  4. mustangchief

    Build quality worries

    They will or I'm bringing a pitch fork to the stock holders meeting.
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    Build quality worries

    Very True, My last Audi trip was not fun. 200 clams to change my brake fluid at 12,000 miles, manual says 20K or 2 years, it will be 2 years in December. Service agent said it was important for the brake fluid to be changed to prevent brake failure. LoL, wander who buys that crap. I always worry about service, but a GM I have a good history with just became Co-Owner of the Lincoln Dealership, as long as he is there, I'm not worried. I would check out your service department though. Look at their reviews and then just go visit them for a bit. I always watch my first experience with a new dealer no matter how long they say it takes. The drop it off and pick it up doesn't fly. When I'm comfortable, then they can work on it at their leisure. There are issues on the best built cars, it happens. I would only reject or not wait if I were not getting a good deal and know the owner. I have four years to work out the bugs, and they will pick it up. It is not my daily driver so I have that luxury. With Lincoln though you will get a loaner and they pick it up, nothing to worry about for me.
  6. mustangchief

    Build quality worries

    I own my first and last BMW. Nice car for around town, but if you are going over 50 miles, it gets to be uncomfortable. My wifes Audi is the same way.
  7. mustangchief

    Ordered: 2020 Aviator

    Might be why David Woodhouse left after creating a master piece. Management wanted it pushed through despite issues with the new equipment and staff to build it. He knew it was going to be ganked up and did not want to be part of it. They will get it right, just might take a minute. If the CAP production coach is reading this forum, remember slow is steady, steady is fast, ask Jamie over at KC about it.
  8. mustangchief

    Ordered: 2020 Aviator

    There are some out there, we have a silver one in town, and a white one was sold to ? We are a tiny market. You probably will only see 1 in every 1000 Lincoln buyers participating here. Many view but don't say anything.
  9. mustangchief

    Aviator Reviews

    No, that is what MT got during testing.
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    Aviator Reviews

    Another bit of information missing is what mode are they testing in, was the battery at full charge, all of these effect timing. I don't think people shopping these are looking for a drag SUV anyhow, just one where a youngster in his Honda Civic needs a lesson in judge your competition carefully.
  11. mustangchief

    Aviator Reviews

    See above, I recognize the similar trap speeds, but it is a faster vehicle. Other testers will have different trap speeds, some maybe slower. Based on the fact you have a much heavier vehicle putting in a few same numbers and then a larger gap in others, I would think the inherit advantage is there. 23 MPG overall vs 20 MPG is pretty significant also.
  12. mustangchief

    Aviator Reviews

    I would not focus so much on the Trap numbers, it brakes shorter, has better skid pad numbers, passes quicker, figure 8s faster, is a lot faster in the taller gears. I'd bet a nickel it is tuned to not rush out of the gate to keep Grandma from getting whiplash. The widening gap at higher speeds support that. I'm sure if you want to monkey with the tune, it will launch pretty quick. Another reason to harness that kind of power is to not snap the drive shaft. Launching almost three tons into a 13.8 quarter at over 100mph takes a pretty beefy shaft to start with, applying all that torque would probably take an upgrade.
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    Aviator Reviews

    I've got 90 feet of on ramp to the freeway every time I head south, like to work. It is the shortest on ramp I've come across and I do it every day. Going from 35 to 70 to merge is crazy, especially when the person in front of you panics and stops, then it is 0-70 in about 45 feet. That half second is helpful, but any 0-60 time below 8 is enough oomph.
  14. mustangchief

    Aviator Reviews

    Lets talk performance: 5838+Lbs and a 13.8 1/4, you think that is not performance? Here are a few "cars" that ran a 13.8 stock 1) 2013 Taurus SHO 2) 2005 Mustang GT 3) 2003 Mustang Mach 1 4) 1971 Mustang Boss 351 5) 1969 Mach 1 6) 1969 Boss 429 Maybe if you stripped out all the luxury it would feel fast. Be assured it is fast enough to pass or accelerate out of a mess, all the while massaging your fanny. I drove a 69 Mach 1 for a while and can tell you a pet rock in the passenger seat could feel the difference in ride. I'm ecstatic as I age, I can go just as fast as I did in the 69 and have my aching bones pampered.
  15. mustangchief

    Ordered: 2020 Aviator

    If the paint is that bad, it needs to be returned. I would never take a brand new dealer painted vehicle over factory paint. I just checked and Chicago did update their paint facility this spring when they converted the machinery. The two-wet process is a harder surface and less prone to scratches than a typical paint at a body shop. I know you have been waiting, but they would either replace it or I'd walk away. If they insist on repaint, have them include ceramic coat for free. Maybe they just want you to walk away so they can sell it to someone else. A small fish eye or similar blemish may get through, but needing a repaint, never heard of that on a high end vehicle line THE other thing, when the paint comes in? What kind of body shop is this? My friend has a large rebuild operation and has DuPont paint mixing stations. You only need the color code and about 20 minutes and you can have every paint out there. You open the correct base paint, put it in the machine, put in the code, a few squirts, take out the can, put it on the shaker for a minute, strain into the paint gun and shoot away.
  16. mustangchief

    Ordered: 2020 Aviator

    Hmmm, he'd have to show them, not sure if CAP is using two-wet process now, but you only have a primer, then color and clear are shot together. I'd ask for a better explanation, sounds wishy washy. I don't think anyone shoots base coats anymore.
  17. mustangchief

    Ordered: 2020 Aviator

    Happy Birthday Sorry about the issues, did he say whether they were factory blemish or handling abuse? I'd look at it before they do anything to it.
  18. mustangchief

    2020 Aviator GT

    Hi Cyberdman Dealer L22658 order D777 Thank You Much
  19. mustangchief

    2020 Aviator Start Stop :-(

    The start stop on the Aviator I drove wasn't really noticeable. There are plenty showing up at dealers now, go drive one. I hate it on the Audi, because it is so pronounced at take-off. The Aviator did great though.
  20. mustangchief

    2020 Aviator GT

    Good Morning kind Sir, Could you check for any change this month? Dealer L22658 order D777 Thank You
  21. mustangchief

    What an insult to compare the Aviator to a Kia!

    Perfect example of looking the same at first blush, but 4...6...7 years later at the end of the loan, do you need a new car or is the refinement still there.
  22. mustangchief

    AVIATOR GT Delivery Date

    Aug 23 was the OKTB target date for the PHEV, not sure if they made it.
  23. mustangchief

    AVIATOR GT Delivery Date

    Did you get a build date, I think only those built before 1 Aug had the issue needing resolved before delivery.
  24. mustangchief

    AVIATOR GT Delivery Date

    The new line is scheduled for start-up next month, it will take a few weeks to get everything running and passed QA. CAP is behind in production do to a few factors, but one is employees taking off without calling in. They have moved some expertise in from other factories to help out, but sometimes that is like putting water on a grease fire. That said, I ordered my GT the day the order backs opened for them also. I've learned to be patient when being an early adopter. I'm hoping by Christmas, but expecting Valentines. Until a VIN shows up for you or anyone else, they are not scheduling. I'm hoping for a VIN any week now. As far as actual timeline on a new line, there is only the best guess.
  25. mustangchief

    More on Aviator GT

    Here is my 5th cent or Nickles worth of why, oh why we engineers build something the way we build it. 1. Engineers can design and create pretty much anything! So why don't they? a. Government rules EPA, CAFE, FMVSS and NHSTB (49 CFR has many) b. Bean Counters c. Production Variation d. Time e. Market Survey Any one of the above can really muck up a great project. Lets take the Aviator GT for instance. Lincoln is joining the big boy table of E Luxury 3 row SUVs, it's like going to a black tie affair in Jeans and Sweaty T-shirt, you don't do it, Lincoln needed to dress up and boy did they. You can't be at the table without good manners, it appears the finishing charm school worked. To join the conversation of the elite, they had to speak of conservation, environment and class. The after dinner cordials are always filled with performance tales from the livery. Nothing perks up ears like saying "Hot Rod Lincoln". Lincoln needed to be on point to achieve blending in this exclusive club, without alienating the Blue Collar Ford fan. I think they did an outstanding job, now to explain. They may have looked at bigger everything's, but bigger especially batteries and motors are heavy mass, heavy mass does not help your crash test ratings unless it is all on the front bumper. Then the bean counters said, hey you can't be within 15% of the price of our flagship. Now, as the Engineers get frustrated, the production line guy says, you can't vary any larger than 15% of the explorer line, or we will need another manufacturing center. #$%^&* say the engineers, then the memo from the glass house, "hey we need this prototype on the road in 18 months. And Oh by the way, our Marketing team says this is what our customer wants and this is what it will take to get a conquest sale. Most times, things are over built and throttled back, some to meet regulation, some for cost purposes, some are just a gut feeling something will be a problem. Dave Pericak while lead designer of the 6th generation of Mustang kept an eight ball on his desk to help him decide what stayed and what went to meet costs. This Sir, is why the Aviator is what it is and is not.
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