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7 hours ago, 7Mary3 said:
When you follow this, again the language doesn't always track with the graphics....why can't these guys just tell the story without all the misleading images..all kinds of OHC shots, even a picture of an inline engine🤔
And what I come away with, a 7.0 pushrod? When they have a clean sheet of paper 7.3/6.8? For sure if the 7.0 is a reality it must have significant benefits over the Godzilla which I still think of as a new engine.
And the story is supported about significant design improvements focused on durability over any of the current offerings to say nothing of power gains including more low end grunt- so again justification for what might mean a replacement for the 6.8/7.3
This then leads to the discussion of the benefits over current diesel technology, and the discussion shifts to where could it be used...and we hear.." on Super Duty 250, 350, 450." No mention of 550-750🤔
IMO so much for this guys credibility? Or all of his claims about the 7.0's design improvements and HP and Torque figures that match/surpass Godzilla-what is the point??.
What did I miss?
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5 hours ago, twintornados said:
I did not know - always thought it was a type of under-hood air exhaust ventilation system....did not realize it was an intake vent - but it does bring up an interesting point...could something like this be used to ventilate under the hood to address the heat issue? Again, it sounds too simplistic but I wonder if that would be the fix if as others had said, the juice being worth the squeeze for air-brakes on a gasser. Wonder what the take rate is for air-brakes on the diesel models. And speaking of that, if air-brakes are available on the diesel versions, it would not seem like much of a leap to get air-brakes on a gasser. Again...just spit-balling here.
Broken record again😎...think of a monster 6.7 Power Stroke under the hood of a 650/750....and to swallow the story we are being fed, they can't solve the under heat issue when a Godzilla takes the place of a 6.7. Educate me please...Higher compression issues in the 6.7 ..Better yet, 6.7 in a 350/450/550/600. in an under hood space that has to be significantly less than the space in a 650/750 tilt hood.
Meantime, over on the 7.0 thread........
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2 hours ago, twintornados said:
Since the answer was always "it is a heat issue" as to why gas does not get air brakes - wasn't the vent on the side of the F900 hood a way to address that? I am curious as I do not know for sure...
Close up..
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Air filter behind that.
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6 hours ago, Joe771476 said:
Talking about oil cos., I read that Citgo -- and apparently only Citgo -- is Venezuela owned.
It is..PDVSA.
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On 1/8/2026 at 7:25 PM, Sherminator98 said:
Not surprising that Ford is no. 1. Surprised that the International oils are not high on the list. Like ExxonMobil is listed as a founded date of 1999. That was the merger date for Exxon and Mobil. Of course Exxon was Esso which had its birth as Standard Oil and Mobil's roots sprang from the same place..as Socony..or Standard Oil Of NY.
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On 1/7/2026 at 1:09 PM, 7Mary3 said:
The 'thing' is... The Ford 650 and 750 compete on price. Using an 'in house' powertrain gives the Ford trucks a price advantage, particularly with the 7.3L gasoline engine. If Ford were to offer a Cummins/Allison drive train their trucks would likely be very close in price to Freightliner, International, Mack, and the various PACCAR class 6 and 7 trucks. Those trucks offer significant advantages over the Fords like wider option availability, better cabs, better dealer networks for medium duty sales and service, and better resale. Ford would likely be under pressure to keep the 650/750 price lower than the competition, which would eat into whatever profits those models generate. So, offering 'in house' powertrains exclusively in the 650 and 750 is the best thing Ford can do, I think.
The Ecotorq is a non-starter. The costs of emissions certification would have to be spread out over a likely very small sales volume of a Ford class 7/8 truck, not to mention whatever tariffs would be slapped on it. I think Ford-Otosan will increasingly align with Iveco and focus on eastern European and Asian markets.
Which is what I keep saying. Absolute BS that they can't overcome the Heat issue to give 7.3 powered 650/750 an air brake option. Truck would have no competition.
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On 1/7/2026 at 11:34 AM, Sherminator98 said:
Ford's New 'High-Performance Sports Car' Debuts On January 15
nebulous enough maybe to get a 4 door Mustang finally? 😛
I say that is a good bet. Or how about a notch back to accommodate a useful rear seat. like the Fox. I know doesn't foot with "High-Performance Sports Car" but......
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8 hours ago, fordmantpw said:
Ford is currently the ONLY automaker to have offerings in class 1-7, so they are the only ones serving that entire market.
So, let's say it's a mistake to not prioritize classes 6 & 7. Let's make an assumption that they could invest $100M into those classes and get a return of $150M. Or, they could pick option 2 and invest $100M into classes 2-5 and get a return of $250M. Which is the better option? What would you choose?
Huh? I'll do you one better. Invest in option 3 and invest in cheaper options in classes2-5 that get a return of 300M....yeah I would go for that hypothetical🤪
Again, I'm not talking about building an F1 program... or getting back in class 8..I'm talking about minor changes -like an Allison for the non believers in the toughness of the in-house trans, or getting a Cummins option and price it accordingly..let the buyer decide if its worth it. Look at the 650/750 guides for the last two years and what do they show??? Additions to options?..No deletions!..Sooner or later they will have built a case..." yep or sales are a fraction of what they were..time to get out.
Oh and as the great success GM is having with their rebadged Isuzus?... I guess Isuzu can make a buck on the sale to GM and GM can make a buck on their sale to the end user??? And Ford can't make a buck with no middleman?
By the way, Same with Navistar building the same truck that is sold as a Chevy or an International? Yeah, I know a real winner... "economy of scale'. Surprised they didn't broaden that appeal by Including.."The Truck People from GMC" as they used to say. Talk about dumb move IMO.
By the way, the bi weekly truck rag that covers New England lists plenty of new Chevy and International class 6's...most them '24's.
Fire away... have my helmet and flak jacket on😎
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On 12/24/2025 at 6:58 PM, akirby said:
Always the same reason. Continued investment wasn't worth the potential profit.With all due respect, if that was the soul corporate objective, the only thing Ford would build would be F-150/250-for sure Lincoln would be gone. As I look at it from the Ford Pro segment, we are led to believe that Ford Pro is a "winner". And assuming "Pro" is defined as the commercial segment..be it a self employed handy man or a big corporate entity, a full slate of vehicles that support that business is critical. This is opposed to the class 8 market, where the bulk of that market is for hire transportation, where moving commodities is the business.
Granted many "commercial" entities also have class 8 vehicles in support of their business -"Private Carriage"-a term you often don't hear used today. The bulk of their needs however are in class 1-7. Accordingly I think Ford has to recognize that failing to serve all of that market, will in the long run prove to be a mistake.
And to those who say it would take huge sums to expand the offerings in class 6/7 I say that is BS. IMO, it is just a matter of some selective changes.
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6 hours ago, GearheadGrrrl said:
No racing over the holidays to watch, so I've succumbed to watching videos of truck plants. First one was of Ford's Ohio Assembly, and I was really impressed by how clean and technically advanced the plant is. Then Daimler's assembly plant in the Carolinas, workers wearing masks dated it to the 20202s but the crudeness of the plant made it look like not much had changed in decades.
Left me convinced that Ohio Assembly is an underrated plant and Ford needs to give them something from the 21st century to build!
Agree,
I know I'm a broken record but I don't see how they proudly proclaim the contribution Ford Pro makes but they do little to capitalize on a market that Ford was always a big player in.
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10 hours ago, SoonerLS said:
Listening to how “he” pronounced “Louisville…Kentucky” at the start, I’m thinking this is AI slop. That would certainly explain the mismatched imagery and iffy “facts” mentioned in this thread.
For sure, and agree with Joe's comment on similar "voice" showing up on other posted articles.
That blue "LTL" is by the way an LN with an aftermarket hood that has the LTL grill work. I believe someone had posted a picture of a white LN with that hood so it apparently is being produced by someone.
The AI world lends new importance to the old saying..."take it with a grain of salt".
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On 12/22/2025 at 8:59 AM, Joe771476 said:
Bob R., in answer to your question about the CTDOT F750's, a guy in the know but NOT a DOT employee says they are Powerstroke diesels.
Thx Joe- I think the Mass DOT 750's are gas. But they are plow equipped.
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5 hours ago, pictor said:
Its a commercial van with little completion in the US, change for the sake of change is not rationale. Fleets like cost consistency and management of maintenance cost, most don't care about flashy changes.
Maybe it is time to bring back the E-550. Would have to be the low cost leader vs the Isuzu, Hino tilt cabs.
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7 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said:
Well I started watching this thing then stopped when this guy started talking about Ford going"big time" time in early 50's with a "monster" 501 cubic inch truck engine...He must have mixed his notes up with an International history. then he starts talking about Fords war time contribution with tanks and such and I quit when he started talking about the GAA tank V-8! I'll go back to it when I have time to kill- if for no other reason but to see if he is implying the GAA was used in trucks. And IMO if anyone wants to talk about Ford's wartime contribution the absolute highlight was when Ford took some farmland at Willow Run and built the plant that at wars end was turning out a 4 engine B-24 every 59 Seconds!!
By the way I don't know if same person has produced other "documentaries" but similar sounding stuff is out there and the guy makes all sorts of false statements.
Oh and the F-8 was introduced in '48. The Term "Big Job" was I believe applied to the F-8 as a marketing theme in '51 or'52
Duh- make that 59 minutes. Still pretty amazing
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1 hour ago, Sherminator98 said:
The GAA was pretty revolutionary for its time-it was selected by the US Army as its primary choice to power the M4 Sherman tank after 1943, after it was tested stateside.
Also Ford was one of the biggest manufacturers of Pratt and Whitney Radial engines for the P-47 and other aircraft.True about GAA -revolutionary- aluminum, overhead cams etc. Started out as a V-12 for aircraft and military I guess did not like it versus the Merlin so Ford decided, Make it a V-8! Home run in the Sherman.
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Well I started watching this thing then stopped when this guy started talking about Ford going"big time" time in early 50's with a "monster" 501 cubic inch truck engine...He must have mixed his notes up with an International history. then he starts talking about Fords war time contribution with tanks and such and I quit when he started talking about the GAA tank V-8! I'll go back to it when I have time to kill- if for no other reason but to see if he is implying the GAA was used in trucks. And IMO if anyone wants to talk about Ford's wartime contribution the absolute highlight was when Ford took some farmland at Willow Run and built the plant that at wars end was turning out a 4 engine B-24 every 59 Seconds!!
By the way I don't know if same person has produced other "documentaries" but similar sounding stuff is out there and the guy makes all sorts of false statements.
Oh and the F-8 was introduced in '48. The Term "Big Job" was I believe applied to the F-8 as a marketing theme in '51 or'52
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On 12/8/2025 at 5:57 PM, 7Mary3 said:
I just got around to looking at sales for the month of November, and 'Heavy Truck' (650 and 750) sales are down 27.3% compared to November 2024. For 2025, year to date 650/750 sales are down 17.5%. Those are substantial numbers, but I think it is important to consider the market. Year to date, class 5-7 sales are down 9%, but Ford still managed to sell nearly 2,500 class 6 trucks, leading the market. It is interesting to note that only a very small percentage of those class 6 sales were F-650's, most were F-550's and F-600's. It looks to me like while F-650 and F-750 sales are in a step decline outpacing the overall market decline, Ford has been able to maintain leadership in class 6 with strong F-550 and F-600 sales. If Ford were to drop the 650 and 750 of course it would end their negligible class 7 sales, but it would appear to have little effect on Ford's class 6 sales.
Note that overall class 4-7 sales were down a whopping 25% in October compared to October 2024, but much of that was attributable to the effect of tariffs on class 4 and 5. Some Isuzu trucks are still imported from Japan and all of the larger Ram models are imported from Mexico, and they are big players in class 4 and 5.
7m..Just where do you get those stats? I remember when HDT published those monthly numbers but no longer.
By the way, I would guess a very high percentage of 750 sales are NOT class 7's but but are technically class 6's as they carry 25,999 plates..or "Tax cheaters" as I call them. I was at "Quick Lube" last week and that dealer is a Ford Pro dealer with a very active 650/750 business. While I was there a mechanic for one of New Englands biggest construction equipment dealers (9 locations) was picking up his truck. A 750 with a IMT service body- the works, welder, air compressor, good sized hydraulic crane and a lot of compartments -also was a Super Cab with no seats-that storage space for his cold weather gear etc. Thing had big rubber so I assumed was a true 33,000 GVW. Open door and 25,999 plate! A 33 plate would usually be a 10/23 or 12/21 axle set up
but can a manufacturer install heavier components and simply derate the component as they choose..Or does the supplier component rating must be adhered too...going upward would of course not be allowed but how about a derate???
And by the way this guy was a big guy-6-2 or taller and he had no trouble with the cab size and the Power Stroke had plenty of power to handle that IMT package. He liked the truck!
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On 11/9/2025 at 1:37 AM, 7Mary3 said:
Truth of the matter was turning KTP over to Super Duty production greatly increased Ford's overall F series production capacity in class 1 through 5. Sales increased substantially.
Yes and that was Jac the Knife's objective. I believe he was quoted as basically saying that..was not that Class 8 was a loser but it did not provide the same ROI as did class 1-5. Which some would argue that for sure it was the right decision. I would say if ROI was applied to every business line think of the one dimensional companies that would exist today?
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For what it is worth;
"The electric vehicle (EV) landscape has rapidly shifted – and it’s not just because incentives have been eliminated. A new CDK study of car shoppers shows interest in EVs has plummeted in just a year. Today, only one in 10 gas shoppers say they’ll ever buy an EV. Last year it was one in three. This webinar will unpack the latest findings on what gas, hybrid and electric vehicle shoppers think about EV technology and just how much the EV industry has been set back."
This from an Automotive News Webinar today pushing their next event-8:01 AM 11/25
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Well if I had to bet I would say "haste makes waste". In the rush to correct the first problem they may have missed something. Roof? Thick black smoke? Says to me perhaps some stack/exhaust system improperly connected and the roofing material caught fire.
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4 hours ago, twintornados said:
Ahh, the Kodiak line. Closest Ford came was when they built E-550 Chassis/Cab....a beast in it's own right. I still maintain that Ford could bring over a JMC tilt cab and mount it on a Medium duty E-Series chassis for a low cost entrant to class 4/5/6 where maximum space is needed for maneuvering in tight spots....but, since I am only a JAFO, my opinion is meaningless.
Ford dealer I did business with was a big fan of the E-550 with its beam front axle. Had finally landed some business with a seafood distributor and then they pulled the plug on the E550. I think that company is all Isuzus now.🤔
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12 hours ago, rmc523 said:
Not to mention, Ford's cab isn't optimal vs. competitors, so at that point why go with the Ford?
I'm still surprised they haven't switched to the aluminum cab to eliminate an old design of cab (interior and exterior) and unify cab production.
It doesn't seem like they're going to create an optimized cab at this point.....I know we long talked about some sort of new cab that could cover the MDs and E-series.....I wonder how feasible it would be to create one cab and then just have an "extender" center section to make it wider for MD applications vs. E-series (i.e. same left and right, with an extra 6+" in the middle).
Like GM did when they created class 6 and 7 trucks when they used the..what would you call it?..front cab clip cowl/windshield/doors, from the GM vans to make a medium duty cab.
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11 hours ago, akirby said:
Huh? Transit and F150/250/350/450/550 are much bigger in commercial sales.No argument..I didn't say they weren't. What I've been trying to say is class 6 and 7 is a key class in the "commercial" market. Much lesser numbers than 5 on down but again, in recent years Paccar, Freightliner, and now Mack have moved into it. Doesn't that say something??
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On 10/28/2025 at 7:27 PM, Bob Rosadini said:
Well you may be right on the possibility of dealers urging Ford to remain in class 6 and 7 when the Blue Diamond venture was dead but I do believe I read it was a bargaining chip in UAW negotiations to move 650/750 from the BlueDiamond plant to Avon Lake.
Also before that it seems when when Jac gave class 8 away was they truly had some pissed off dealers and Ford then went to great lengths to produce a large number of F-700/800s so dealers would have something to sell until the new 650/750 went into production at the Navistar facility.
And AK, if i'm "Hyper" I guess I see it as a market they could build on with not much effort and with minimal plant investment😎
Correction..the "new 650/750" was originally built in Mexico at ..?Escobedo??
The Blue Diamond era came about in 2004.
A new 7.0 liter V8 for future SD trucks?
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I do believe he did. And in retirement he has been getting all kinds of wild numbers out of it. If you google him on You Tube there is a lot of info on him