Bob Rosadini
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12 hours ago, DeluxeStang said:
That's interesting, because having the sex appeal and driving dynamics of a supercar, but having it be something that can handle rough terrain, all sorts of weather, I can definitely see the appeal behind that.
But at what cost? And to how many people? The big winner if it happened?
Probably MultiMatic😎
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Well an article last week in WSJ was entitled; "Detroit Quickly Pivots as America Rediscovers Love for Gas Guzzlers".
In that article Mr. Farley goes on to say..."This is a multibillion dollar opportunity over the next couple of years". The article goes on to say Farley said to analysts...Ford was scaling back EV plans and looking to leverage demand for its big SUVs and commercial trucks.
Really? And in the last day or two I've heard/read of his new plans to consider an off road supertruck! Not being content to pour money into Formula One, Mr Farley looks like he has another-at least in my opinion- desire for speed by dumping money into another pet project- or rabbit hole!
All this while claiming commercial vehicles are a priority. Or does Mr. Farley think "commercial trucks" is limited to Transits??
If so Mr Farley, please spend a few bucks to engineer an air compressor into gas powered 650/750 so you can continue to sell some medium duties on the west coast, as well as offering buyers in the rest of the country, the lowest cost medium duty conventional truck with gasoline/LPG capability with air brakes.
Now to beat others to the punch, no, such a Ford may be less attractive to an International or a Paccar in the same weight classes, but to a large number of buyers where the truck is a necessary vehicle to their primary business as opposed to it being the primary reason for their business, such a Ford would own that portion of the market IMO.
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3 hours ago, sullynd said:
Yes, or AM General was losing money on the Humvee. The crazy thing to me is 300,000 Humvees over four decades is 7500 per year. We’d be questioning the production of a truck at 7500 per MONTH. If this truck is going to see that kind of limited production perhaps that explains the cost.
That said this seems much more limited in its usefulness.
Plus I do believe there are hundreds of them in storage someplace-or so it seems I saw a video of that.
Now if the intent is to have a vehicle to run around in duty at base or non-combat roles but seems like a total non combat mission.
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6 hours ago, Rick73 said:
Only that 2.0L is a lot smaller in displacement than 2.8L, so not entirely comparable. The 3.0L V6 is slightly larger and closer in displacement but it’s a V6. For commercial, industrial, (non personal) marine, and probably military applications as well, inline engines seem more common for their simpler design, ease of maintenance and repairs, etc., particularly in that size range. On plus side a Ford 2.0L diesel should have a weight advantage, assuming it can meet power and torque requirements, but would come at expense of having to operate at higher BMEP.Since military has their own engineering and other resources to evaluate and compare proposals at a different level of detail, I’d bet that selling to them is very different than selling to consumers who on average have very little technical knowledge by comparison. Regardless, do we even know if Ford were interested in competing for this vehicle contract? The entire issue could be a moot point.
good point!
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On 8/1/2025 at 4:17 PM, Joe771476 said:I can't find the article in the paper, probably because it's a small local paper. I did find the minutes of the meeting in the town's website, but it wasn't that informative.But it's quite refreshing to see the leaders of a municipality performing due diligence when it comes to major purchases and saving the taxpayer money in the process. The leaders of Marlborough CT weighed the pros and cons of a new Ford F550 plow/salter truck vs. a larger used truck, or larger new truck for double the price. They considered the advantage of maneuverability vs. the only real drawback, that being the F550 would have to make more trips to the yard, which they apparently -- and rightly so I believe -- felt was not that big an issue. As we know, many other municipalities are doing the same.On 8/1/2025 at 4:17 PM, Joe771476 said:I can't find the article in the paper, probably because it's a small local paper. I did find the minutes of the meeting in the town's website, but it wasn't that informative.But it's quite refreshing to see the leaders of a municipality performing due diligence when it comes to major purchases and saving the taxpayer money in the process. The leaders of Marlborough CT weighed the pros and cons of a new Ford F550 plow/salter truck vs. a larger used truck, or larger new truck for double the price. They considered the advantage of maneuverability vs. the only real drawback, that being the F550 would have to make more trips to the yard, which they apparently -- and rightly so I believe -- felt was not that big an issue. As we know, many other municipalities are doing the same.
For sure, but I would think an F-600 would be a better choice..22,000 GVW versus a 19,500 F-550. And I think the difference between the two is spring and tire ratings??
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Huh? This is an apples and oranges comparison. And first and foremost in my mind, if this "pick up truck" is only 80 grand cheaper than a Humvee, GM has to be making a killing.
The only thing that comes to my mind is the "technicals" that so many 3rd world armies use..a toyota pick up with a pedestal mounted automatic weapon of some sort in the bed.🤔
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,Well I don't want to be banned but first thought was two stars for DEI..Female and of color. Second thought a clueless top side job hopping "Leader". some facts;
In terms of education....BS in Chem Engineering, Northwestern, MS Engineering Science, RPI-one top engineering schools! MBA Indiana.
She was first female plant mgr. at GM
Had a lot of "people type" roles at GM
Executive VP of Global Manufacturing at GM.. have to believe a huge job.
then a couple of jobs at Amazon..system type issues I would say.
Currently at Alto Pharmacy, a 1200 employee co. Sounds to me like she needed a break from pressures of high level of corporate life.
I think of Ford Pro as a side of Ford that is heavy into the commercial logistics world. As key as that business is to Ford's profitablity, I would like to see someone who had a lot of relevant experience in that world but I guess Mr Farley subscribes to ..."a manager is a manager, forget about the details."
Hopefully she will do well.
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Any Automotive News subscribers out there with the story? KSC?
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Back to the Ford with snorkel, check You Tube..
Ch1-Chicago Fire Dept & the Snorkel (circ 1965)
All about the Chicago chief who started the use of "snorkels." You will see several shots of F models with snorkels and for sure one clearly shows an F-model "Super Duty"-850 or 950...also a lot of others.
Interesting this chief borrowed a bucket truck from a tree outfit and experimented with it with a hose in the bucket. That was the start.
Safe to say, looks like telescopic ladders have taken place of "snorkels" as we know them?????
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On another note I did another Google earth of Avon Lake to see if there were any notable inventory changes. One thing I noted- a lot of what appeared to be complete cabs sitting in "finished" parking. Again, just cabs, no chassis. First thought was they were going to specialty builders like guys who do Airport vans but then again you would think they would get a complete chassis.
Any opinions??
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20 hours ago, 7Mary3 said:
That's a big one, see the wide front fenders. Probably an F-900.
Correct...can't see the hood if it has an air scoop but for sure an F-800 or a Super Duty-850 or 950..would have thought it would have had a heavier front axle though. Chicago FD was another big city department that used C-modelsa too.
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48 minutes ago, akirby said:
I’ve said it before but you don’t fix quality with a separate team. You fix it by changing your processes and by making quality a priority for compensation and promotion over cost and schedules. And you fire people who don’t comply.
Suppliers should not be allowed to outsource without approval. But that also means you can’t squeeze suppliers for that last nickel.
CE1 has the potential to fix some of it by having less complicated parts and doing more in house. Plus they’re already losing money with Blue providing the profits so less pressure to cut costs initially - but that obviously changes over time.
Wow..if suppliers were allowed to sub out, that is a huge problem. I would hope Ford did due diligence when it came to picking a vendor..."what you see should be what you get". But good procedures costs money..for a supplier to cut corners unknown to Ford, unbelievable IMO.
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If my memory serves me right, didn't Mulally have weekly meetings with key staff and status of prior meeting issues were reviewed? "What gets measured gets done" to use a worn out slogan.
Anyone have an opinion of the recall history during his regime?
Also my opinion, the difference when a guy with operations/engineering roots runs the show vs. a guy who got the job because he was a marketing "genius".
Human nature IMO, a guy tends to concentrate on his area of expertise..no doubt Mulally and Farley came up via very different paths.
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6 hours ago, fordmantpw said:
Whatever is not the person, or the fewest number of people. I'm not worried about that scenario for several reasons:
Thanks for your views, I still say, accident avoidance is NOT a black and white issue
1) Most people can't think that fast anyway. They think they can, but when in that position, they just can't. Period. Goes back to the Smith Sytem of driving that has been taught to commercial drivers for probably 60 years, keep your eyes moving and get the big picture at all times
2) It's easy to distinguish a person with today's technology. Heck, my Ring cameras can determine when there's a person in my yard. It's not hard. Education please-can it distinguish between a human and a large animal?
3) Machines are 1000x of times faster at making those decisions than people are. And they'll make them more reliably. Okay, I'll simplify my example..there is one person on the curb-large adult or a six year old and one object, be it a fire hydrant, a Post office box, a trash can. Those are readily recognized by me as alternatives - the automated system will pick the correct option ?
4) I don't trust 99% of drivers out there today to make a good decision in that position. They're probably staring at their phone anyway. True,and they will not react in any case until impact 🤔
5) An autonomous car would likely pick the method to hurt the fewest number of people 99 times out of 100. An average human drivers is probably closer to 5-10 out of 100. I guess I can't argue with those stats-and they are based on ? Probability?
It's the normal, everyday stuff where I worry about autonomous tech. Road construction, fog, new paved road with no lines, etc. For sure-and add "fog lines" that are well past there useful life. And I will add, my F-150 does have some good systems such as I'm on an Interstate and with no traffic around me I think it is safe to take my jacket off-not a good move but... right away it starts chirping telling me to "take a break".
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Bad enough that they want to expand this to PV's. I assume the Ford Pro guy is speaking to his responsibilities with commercial vehicles, even worse.
My biggest fear, accident avoidance is not a black and white situation.
I think I mentioned previously...a couple of people on the curb and a fire hydrant 5' away. Vehicle headed for me..avoidance says to me pick the hydrant as best I can. What does the automated vehicle select???
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9 hours ago, rmc523 said:
As I said in the other thread, none of us are saying the new Navigator is terrible, just that Ford didn't push far enough. It's great that sales are their strongest in years, decades even, but it'll be interesting to see what happens as '24 inventory clears out, and whether it can maintain this pace.
Could it be that the Escalade is a better looking vehicle-at least in my opinion.
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8 hours ago, rmc523 said:
Ford COO Kumar Galhotra Says 2025 Model Year Quality Has Improved
But, Kumar Golhotra is saying 2025s are better?
Probably true as only trim is falling off an NOT the doors😎
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And I thought "well these are mostly software issues". I guess this sets the record straight on that point.
I wonder just what is the metric is that the board uses to set Mr. Farley's annual earnings???
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56 minutes ago, 7Mary3 said:
From what I understand a lot of the 6.2L block tooling was used over. Many key dimensions such as bore centers and bearing sizes are the same.
thx-never thought of it from a manufacturing perspective.
2 hours ago, akirby said:
He was talking more about smaller engines used worldwide like the 2.0L turbo.
And I was thinking more about truck engines than car engines so I guess it’s not as bad as I suggested. But I still see this as GM catching up to Ford rather than surpassing them with this new V8. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.
Got it..just thinking from an economy of scale I'm thinking those 4 bangers are a big number when you look at all the Fords using them-unlike my reference to the Yamaha in the SHO.
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2 hours ago, 7Mary3 said:
I don't know, GM has gone from Gen. III to Gen. IV to Gen. V (LT), the DOHC LT 5.5L, the Blackwing (didn't go anywhere), and a bunch of major revisions to the Duramax (with a brand new 8.3L on the way). Not exactly 'next to nothing'.
The 6.8L and 7.3L were not exacly 'all new' either, there's a lot of 6.2L Boss in their DNA...
For sure! What current GM's share what with a 283,327,350? Think of what the new Vette powertrain must have cost..for one very unique market.
Oh, education needed.. what does the 6.8/7.3 have in common with a 6.2?🤔
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3 hours ago, akirby said:
Or maybe Ford already spent the money on their v8s over the last 15 years while GM did next to nothing.
500 hp 5.0.
Flat plane crank 5.2Aluminator 5.2
Predator and Carnivore Supercharged 5.2
Not to,emotion the all new 6.8 and 7.3 Godzilla V8s to go along with the high output diesels.
All GM is doing is trying to catch up.
AK..Almost a billion to catch up to......? Something that Lawler thinks has no business as an inhouse product? Or I guess you can make the case that he is saying "we are done..going forward we can save by outsourcing any future developments.
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On 6/6/2025 at 10:42 AM, scode1 said:Looks like GM is taking a different approach to this.
Amazing huh? Apparently GM dropping almost a BILLION on a new V-8 says either Ford or GM is going to be a big loser.
As to Ford's position as stated by John Lawler, at what point is Ford no longer a true manufacturer?
One more thing for Toyota to add to ..."the best built vehicles last the longest",..."We take pride in insuring what we sell we build".
And if we look at HD trucks..and I'm not talking about a 2500 Silverado or an F-250, as years ago when diesels took over the market, a buyer could chose from Cummins, Cat, or GM, or they could buy a Mack as Mack while offering those engines too, prided themselves on their in house complete proprietary power trains. But in terms of volume, far different from what Lawler is talking about.
I can see unique vehicles with n outsourced engine- as in the Yamaha in the original SHO, but if we are talking about large numbers, what is the point of losing your identity?
Another interesting thought....Mr Lawler thinks we should outsource engines while his boss thinks nothing of building a Formula 1 engine 🤔
Thought this old coin I have is a good example of Ford Pride:
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6 hours ago, twintornados said:
TT, Thx, interesting that these guys have never encountered one of these before...then again they get a lot of commercial/farm equipment. And a lot of it in the "rode hard, put away wet" class-including high mileage foreign vehicles that I assume the current owners cannot afford taking to the dealer😎
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7 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said:
Not too far into the initial 2022 model year, they replaced the traditional resonator with that screen. Been like that ever since.
HRG
HRG..thx..that had to be a good cost saver. I guess it makes no difference if it is upstream of muffler or down.
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Wonder what this means as far as Fiat Powertrain or whatever they call the engine business. And what does this mean to Ford Otosan??