Bob Rosadini

JP- Agree 100% with your first comment. That is my point- 6.7 PS Sales in 650/750 in those two states are I'm sure a fraction of the 6.7 Cummins sales in Internationals and Paccars.-so they (cummins) really have an incentive to have a gasser. Ford HAS a serviceable gasser but instead of tweaking that-and most importantly adding air brakes as an option that would make the 650/750 all that more attractive/competitive, they do nothing. Ford Pro is a one dimensional effort IMO based on the success of the Transit. Rick- I get it on the 300's "as is" configuration. My question is how many cubes could you get out of it- I'm sure you couldn't get it to 6 L, but better yet as good as the 300 was, does the architecture lend itself to a bigger version...if in fact Ford Pro recognizes the value of class 4,5, 6,7 if they really want to hold Ford's position as the commercial leader.

Well guys it seems Cummins recognizes a need for a gasoline engine-think California/Oregon and Ford in their infinite wisdom says,,"nah, who needs that volume". How many cubes could you get oiut of a 300 six? I've seen some hyou tube videos where guys play with that engine and get big power out of it.

My son has a 2015 150 with 180,000 miles idles rough and also breaks up at speed. Shop he goes to says it definitely has one bad injector. I don't think he has ever done anything to clean intake valves. Anyone have any experience with the CRC product?

Also not fooling with regen cycles could be another attraction in particular if less power is not an issue. My concern is in any case, this is not good news for Ford.

Thx Rick. did not know it was only 3 liters. Guess they are trying to compete with Ford's 2.7 EB- which by the way, I've never heard an owner complain about the power it puts out-so for sure I would have to believe the 6.7 Gas would be a natural for Ram. Only question is the 6.8/7.3 's in a Ford are a good choice based on price vs. a Power Stroke. I would think the 6.7 Cummins gas will not be as big a cost savings vs a diesel in a Ram.

I would doubt that, if they in fact will soon have a turbo straight six of their own. Not sure when this is supposed to be available.

THx..I guess I'm thinking they would be same as a CNG tank...A flammable gas

Check this out...https://mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0072230.pdf Looks like Ford's unique position of having the only gasoline power for class 6 and 7 is over. And unlike Ford, you can bet International, F.liner, and Paccar will offer this motor with an air compressor! Will it cost more than a 7.3 Godzilla? I'm sure. Will customers be willing to pay a premium? Im sure.

Thx-good catch. I did not think they were pushing a battery electric- I assumed all their efforts now were focused on hydrogen. But I would have to assume the weight of the hydrogen tank to say nothing of what is required to convert it to electricity, is not insignificant??

29,000 lb is from Nikola web site..had to hunt for it..like they really wanted to give it little coverage😎

Further thought on Nikola, given a tractor weight of 29,000 lbs and given subsidies that I am paying for to lower the price, I guess I have to view this as another "green initiative" being shoved down our throats. My broken record speech...in due time when the free market says it makes sense. Or how about...let's solve the "climate crisis" by starting with China, India, etc who continue to crank out new coal fired power plants that generate far more pollutants than I believe we do with our entire ICE "fleet". May well be a better alternative to electrics-a loser for sure-, but still seems like a loser when all factors are considered-or so it seems to me. But forgive me, what am I thinking, why would we consider ALL factors?🤔 PS..After working my butt off for 44 years, and thinking my grandkids will benefit from my hard work, I now have to shell out a big number every year to satisfy such subsidies like this. I'd feel much better if my money was buying a few more 155 shells to help out the Ukrainians.

Trevor Milton was the guy that started it and was behind all the phony demos. He ultimately was prosecuted and is no longer involved I do believe.

You guys don't get it. Ford Pro is where it is at now- that is the big money maker. And while they did not reveal anything at the Work Truck Show-which is where anything big in commercial vehicles is usually announced, Mr Cannis and his team of truck professionals will be announcing new color choices for the Transit at New York. While Ram and GM have announced new organizations similar to Ford Pro they have a lot of catching up to do if they are going to catch Ford's team. Not sure where I saw it, but a clip of the Ford Pro line up....an array of about seven Transits, and one F-150- all white of course. Super Duty 250-750??? Nah!

So Much Horseshit??

Time to eat my words. It is there!

Interesting..I forgot about McDonnel Douglas. Think of that..three giants merged into one..the good and the bad I guess associated with the "synergism" associated with mergers. Just wonder how the elimination of competition somehow waters down the desire to be the best- or the NEED to be the best to survive??

Not to get off thread but if I read correctly the move to assemble air frames-not sure if the right term-how about fuselage?- to Spirit in SC was a cost saving move. Think of the cost of shipping these to Witchita??? And it was still cheaper? Ok so you can assume labor rates was a big difference? Also what other "economies" were associated with that move?? No such thing as a free lunch!

Well I'm giving it time. So far it has not reset. However, I HAD "Trip 1, Trip 2." Now Trip 1 only🤔 I'll give it another week before I take it back.

Wonder what Al thinks of the current mess at Boeing🤔

Well AKI figured new vehicle..I'm not touching it. So finally took it to dealer. This off invoice: A Concern Customer states trip will reset itself, screen will go black and will lose radio presets often but not every day Please check and advise. Correction Updated IPC,PCM, ACM and GWM. and test drove. Screen is working properly Something tells me nothing will change. Only positive is I had an Escape for a day no charge, a '21 I looked under hood to see if it was a Briggs and Stratton there and find a 3 banger! But on rural roads it was fine and was reading 28 mpg

Bingo. I had a boss and one of his favorite sayings was..."Paralysis through analysis." My view has always been.."staff disease". On my favorite subject of heavy trucks, a good example is Ford's ongoing delay of offering air brakes on a 750 equipped with the 7.3 Godzilla. This option has been delayed ever since the 7.3 came out as an alternative the the $10k+ premium for the Power Stroke. I've been led to believe they didn't have the money to engineer this option in. If you offer air on a 750 with a 33,000lb. rating, should not take a lot of effort to put that compressor on a 7.3. Unless too many clueless people are involved in the approval process. One long time retired Ford poster has said "commercial trucks" was a dead end career wise. Well now we are led to believe Ford Pro is the new cash cow. Most likely however the decision makers in that organization are an in-house product of the bureaucracy many here have referred to.

Hmnn...could be a sign..too many people trying to justify their existence???

Well I think Joe your post may go a bit too far, but ..Boeing is considering buying back the outfit that they sold to assemble plane bodies as a solution for some of the serious issues they have been having. Good example of outsourcing to "concentrate on our core business"...translation ...go to a lower cost state-maybe union free?

Interesting and sad. In this day and age you would think that mindset was stamped out long go. You use the term "workforce". While that attitude you speak of starts with the plant manager, would you say it was across the board?-mgtmt and the union represented trades you probably interacted with as well when it came to installs?

5.0 and 10 speed? What axle?