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  1. I agree with you on that. But turbo lag does exist on the Ecoboost platform (really any turbo charged engine)—I have driven many F150s with Ecoboost engines. Moreover, I occasionally notice it on my BMW as well.
  2. Maybe for you, but you can search any Ecoboost forum and you’ll find plenty of people that experience it.
  3. I'll say two things: 1) You will have some turbo lag on a twin turbo vehicle, so that may have been a factor. If you're not use to such, then it may stand out more than usual. 2) Premium gas makes a big difference on the Ecoboost twin turbo platform. Car and Driver measured the performance numbers on a F150 that ran 93 vs 87—the numbers were pretty significant: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a28565486/honda-cr-v-vs-bmw-m5-ford-f-150-dodge-charger/ That's why I also run premium on the Ecoboost platform.
  4. I had a 13 Acura MDX Advance package that I loved, but it required premium and I was only getting 15-16 mpg. Back then gas was nearly $5 a gallon, so I said screw it and bought a Raptor because the gas mileage was about the same. I had always loved the look of them on the road. At the time I was also looking at the Lexus LX570, but you could nearly buy two Raptors for the price of one LX570 and the Raptor is SO much more comfortable and sporty to drive compared to the Lexus. People don’t realize how comfortable Raptors are on the road. The off-road suspension and big tires make the truck drive like a dream. No one really knew that the Raptors would hold their value so well, so I just got lucky buying when I did. Moreover, I had very little knowledge in off-roading, but have became an avid off-roader throughout the years and made great friends within the Raptor community. I have traveled all across North America in a Raptor: from the Arctic Circle in Alaska and Western Canada to Cabo in Baja California. Once I found out how well they held their value, it made sense just to trade them in for a new one rather than spending the money to replace the shocks, tires, and so on every couple of years. The big reason I want to sell my Raptor is because I can’t use it the way I would like to being stuck in Florida. I use to live out West, but I will be here for at least another year and a half. And the Southeast does not have the same type of off-roading that you have out West. So the Aviator checks all the boxes as far as what I would want if I were to get rid of my Raptor. Competition is great for the consumer. But I don’t see the TRX affecting the Raptors value. Fiat SRT products depreciate horribly—that doesn’t happen with Raptors. Also, the current Raptor was built/designed in 15-16. So the TRX is 4-5 years newer and the only definite thing it is better at is in HP and TQ. We’ll have to wait and see what Ford does with the Gen 3 Raptor.
  5. This is the one that I am looking at: Aviator.HEIC Aviator 2.HEIC I also like the Chroma Caviar color.
  6. I haven't seen a lot of Aviators on the road. So I am curious what the production numbers will be once we get back to normal—if we ever do. Ford produces around 20-25K Raptors per year, which is still quite a lot for them to hold their value so good. I am going to try and drive one this weekend. What's interesting is that the Aviator weighs about the same as the Raptor given how much all the electric technology weighs. With my Cobb tune on the Raptor, the power numbers are about 525 hp and about 600 lbs tq, so the numbers are similar to the Aviator except the engine size. The Raptor pulls and accelerates extremely quick for its size and having 35" tires. Lol like you, I passed a vehicle on the highway in my Raptor during the summer and got nailed going 20 over—my officer wasn't as cool as yours though.
  7. The only negative that I see on these Aviators is the depreciation. A 2020 Grand Touring BL with 20k miles on it is only worth about $65k on trade in—that's $20k depreciation in a year, which is a lot. Within 3 years of ownership, it could be worth less than $50k. This is my fourth Raptor that I have owned since the Gen 1 V8 Raptors have came out. And all of them have had their value exceptionally well—better than any other mass produced vehicle that I have seen. I can trade in my 2020 Raptor and make about $7k more than what I paid for it since the Gen 2 Raptors are discontinued until the new Gen 3s comes out. So with that and the tax credit, it helps minimize some of the first year depreciation. I could probably put 50k miles on my truck before I see $20k worth of depreciation.
  8. @rampagex7 Thanks for the info! This is exactly what I was looking for. Lol I have looked at nearly every Aviator YouTube videos and web articles that I could find, but no on gave the explanation that you just gave. So I greatly appreciate it! Lots of good information on this thread. So I am a little confused on your explanation here. I thought the Aviator would be in hybrid mode anytime that one is not in pure electric mode? That is to say, Excite, Normal, Conserve, Slippery, and Deep condition modes are all in hybrid mode? You make it seem that hybrid mode only comes on once the battery is depleted. So are you talking about once you can no longer drive in pure electric mode, the vehicle will switch back to hybrid mode? Maybe I have a misunderstanding of the Aviator Series-Hybrid system, but if you cannot drive the vehicle in pure electric mode because the battery is depleted, then you do not have 494 hp and 630 lb tq available correct? Really good info and insight.
  9. Thanks for all of the info. Reading your post and @mustangchief has me excited to see what the hybrid will yield for fuel economy. I already have a 220V outlet in my garage. So I am not worried about charging it at home. But is the regen braking sufficient to keep it charged on longer trips? I live in Florida, but I normally take a couple weeks off each year and go to Idaho/Montana and work my way up into Banff. I am sure the range will vary based on how you drive, but I just don’t know what to expect for my longer trips. Or would you recommend using a different vehicle for a cross country trip? Also, since your in Toronto, have you noticed much of a difference on the EV range when it is cold vs hot outside?
  10. Lol that doesn’t sound much different than my experience with Ford dealerships....
  11. I appreciate all the feedback everyone! Very insightful. @mustangchief great info about the charge times and MPG. My Raptor gets 18-20 MPGs in Florida. I was somewhat skeptical of the Ecoboost platform, but have came to really enjoy it. So I can’t wait to try out the hybrid platform on the Aviator. I didn’t buy the Raptor for MPGs nor will I buy the Aviator for such, but I am curious to see what the Aviator will yield in hot humid Florida. How has everyone’s experience been with Lincoln as far as customer service and how they have taken care of you? I have experience with Lexus, Acura, and Porsche, but have never had a Lincoln. So I am hoping the Black Label experience will be superb. Also, how does everyone like the technology? I am a sucker for technology. So having things like keyless entry with your phone is very enticing and something I plan on using often
  12. Hello, I have a 2020 Raptor, but have an itch to get back into a SUV. I love the Aviator and have been lurking on the forum for the past couple of weeks. Some on the forum have noted quality issues with the Aviator, which is unfortunate, but ought to be expected in my opinion. Nearly every manufacturer has some type of problems regardless of the money that you pay. My front and back cameras went out within my first week of ownership in my Raptor. But that’s why you have a warranty and in particular pay the money to have the Black Label experience with Lincoln. Any long term feedback from Black Label GT owners? I haven’t had the chance to drive one yet, but plan to do so soon. Driving is therapeutic to me and something I greatly enjoy. So I want something to be quiet and luxurious, while having enough power to make me grin when I floor it Also, does anyone have any insight into how the electric hybrid system works? I looked extensively for various videos and webpages, but never could find anything substantive. My understanding is that you can drive the vehicle in pure EV mode if you so choose, which I don’t see myself ever doing. My main question is that if you don’t have the vehicle in pure EV mode, can the battery recharge itself as you drive with the combustion engine on? I like to take long road trips, so I don’t want to be confined to any charging stations, which I don’t think is the case, but I want to make sure. Also, are the complimentary car washes just basic car washes where they drive your vehicle through a car wash? I am OCD about paint scratches, so I avoid car wash drive-thrus unless they are touchless. Thanks!
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