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Anyone get a lightning (LOL)? It would be great to hear from an owner about their experience thus far.

For all you folks with power tailgates and bedliners, did your bedliner installer (e.g., dealership, LINE-X, etc) apply bedliner spray to the tailgate? According to a thread in another forum, LINE-X shops in my area aren't spraying the tailgate; installers aren't confident they can do the install without messing up the power tailgate. It's great that folks know the limits of their work, but I want the complete install. Sadly, I do wonder if this is some weird way to save as much material used in bedliner due to the shortage. Anyone with have any issues with their bedliner install?

Fair witty question. I think if the proper security isn't (which doesn't seem to be tbe case at this juncture), I do think the folks that leave their vehicles running while they run into a store or gas station would be at risk of having their vehicles hacked. If you're a guy like me that sits in his car while waiting for his wife to run into the beauty story for a hairbrush, you share the same risk. That being said, all any of us have to do is turn off the wifi if we start hearing reports of successful exploits. This is nothing to stress about given the easy fix. To wrap up my response, I'll just reiterate that if the proper security is in place, the level of risk is almost non-existent. It's something to discuss in a forum, but not something to bash Ford or freak out about. We discuss, we learn, we grow.

To clairfy, I'm not referring to the Hotspot. I'm referring to the wifi used during wireless app projection. Secondly, after some discussion regarding this matter on another forum, it may not be a concern if Ford is using 802.1x authentication with TKIP. If I'm bored enough, I'll see if I can find out if Ford is using 802.1 or PSK. Assuming the average Joe doesn't garner the attention of a cyber attacker with focused interest on their truck, the aforementioned should be sufficient.

As a cyber engineer, I'm wired to look at the security settings for all the features/apps I use. I noticed the truck's wifi only has WPA encryption. I'm alarmed that Ford is using this level of encryption as it is easy to break, so I'm hoping an over-the-air update can address this change. Android Auto and likely Apple Car Play connect to the truck's wifi as well as the Bluetooth connection. I'll likely have to connect to Android auto via USB and disable the truck's wifi rather than use the wireless connection to reduce any potential risks. I'll update this if I'm mistaken, and can change the encryption level.

CYBERDMAN, Thanks for being an incredible resource to all Ford owners. Thanks for taking the time out each work over the LAST 10 YEARS to give us updates on our trucks. It's been an odd production year, but you made it easier on me for sure. I wanted to flood you with pictures, but I can only get one to upload properly. All the best to you and yours. God bless you! Stay safe, and please stay healthy.

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Sad but funny and likely true too. I hope this market has taught all of us a listen about dealers. I used to think they were all bad, but I seen the good really shine among all the bad ones out there. We'll all be smarter the next purchase. ??

Yea. Here's the response I got from another dealer: "you are correct...we needed to opt in to receive the trucks without chips...there was an insurance issue that was resolved today with Ford...those that dont sign the opt in would receive their vehicles later...they will ship the chips modules to the dealers who opt in b4 they fix the trucks sitting at the plant." I hate being the guy with the dealer who doesn't know the right information. He's really confident that I don't know what I'm talking about too. Hot mess.

@ice-capadesor @akirby Can you confirm that the process is that dealers have to opt-in to receive these trucks? My sales guy told me he isn't sure if my truck has all the chips. I told him that I was tracking that dealers needed to opt-in to receive incomplete trucks, but he told me my information was incorrect.

Bumped for update. I see that it shipped. Hopefully the VVR has the current location of the truck. Thanks!

Bumped. What does it say in the ETA disposition for my latest status? Other folks have pointed out there ETA disposition changed a few times while the secondary status remained the same before ultimately having their trucks shipped. Thanks.

Yea. For the benefit one gets, that fee is nothing. All the details are in the link I posted.

If you're a Veteran, you qualify for X-Plan pricing. https://members.veteransadvantage.com/ford

This would be awesome, and quite frankly I'm surprised this isn't a standard feature in 2021 on any vehicle 40k+. I mean we are more connected to the internet now than ever, so it only makes sense to provide these type of necessities.

Bumped for update. Is there a note in my vehicle visibility report (VVR)indicating what the hold up is? Supposedly the VVR will now state if a truck is waiting on a chip.

@ice-capades Are there any changes you'd like to see between Ford and their dealers from your dealership perspective? I have an impression that the larger and more we'll connected dealers are able to get their ordered trucks (stock and retail) quicker than the smaller names. Ford will say that trucks are built in the order they're received, but that's a either complete ignorance or a lie. These dealers with massive YouTube followers seem to be getting trucks in weekly, so maybe consumers should only purchase from big name/ big social media following dealers. Thoughts?

Solid state batteries will address the charging times and range, but the issue with the current battery technology is that cold weather reduces the range. You likely were getting 300-350 miles on a combustible engine, but no way anyone is going to get 300 on a truck when you factor in towing, long idle times on job sites, and of course the weather. 300 range on an EV truck may actually end up being less than 200. I see wide adoption of EV increasing as the battery technology improves; which should improve range and charge time.

EVs certainly don't lack in power. You likely want what akirby was referring to; THAT beefy rumble. It'll be interesting to see how EV trucks are going to be years from now.

I read the "may charge" portion of the fine print as giving the dealer authorization to charge 100 even though a state requires that all customers get charged the same. Based on the context of the fine print, Ford is able to authorize a dealer to charge the plan customer only 100 because "any additional fees have been paid by Ford Motor Company or Lincoln Motor Company as part of the AXZD-Plan Program dealer reimbursement on the buyer's order." It would be wild if that dealer charges 250 then sends Ford a bill for 150 (assuming that's how it works).

That would be cool. EV makers have to have the vehicles make some noise for the safety of pedestrians. Maybe it would be possible to switch out that low humming sound EVs are known for with an optional upgrade to that V8 rumble folks crave. Considering that the sound would be fake, EV makers would have to work on the sound. I guess that's possible.

What do EV makers need to work on to get you comfortable with the idea of an all electric truck? I bet range, so that means improvements in battery technology. What else?

Bumped for update, please.

I doubt the execs actually look at these posts, and I highly doubt they'd respond. Any response would be that annoying robotic crap they've practiced and said thousands of times. Lol. There have been some great ideas proposed, so hopefully someone is at least passing along the information.

I think it's a great start, and likely going to be a great truck for those that only plan to use it for short trips. I can't imagine using a 300 range truck that will take a hit in range based on speed and load for a road trip. Folks on cold weather areas will have to deal with a greater hit in range. I'm looking forward to seeing how this truck progresses over the years. It's also WAY better than the Rivian. Have you seen the price they're going to ask for that UGLY thing? ?