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I am hooking up a set of lights on my grill that will need to be wired to turn signals and running lights. Does anyone know if there is access to the trailer wiring under the hood of a 22 F350? I hate to tap into the actual lights themselves.

3.23 on the Jersey Shore today. Looking better than last week I guess. Fingers crossed the prices drop below 3 for the camping season.

Who is Joe? I don’t understand. I don’t get the joke.

Wow Atlas Blue is a one off color and they ruined the truck with those ugly built in steps. Yuck

I don’t like the steps built into the truck. The tailgate step was fine. I hope the cameras are better on the new model. I would order a 23 since the 22 is just ok but they got rid of Atlas Blue. Time to go back to a Ram. Ford is a huge disappointment so far. I really regret selling a Ram to get a Ford.

Good to see that you enjoy it. I have a fifth wheel but got the 7.3 gas. It has been great to tow with but my cameras are awful. The chsml camera is grainy and the lines are off center so it messes with me trying to hitch. I didn’t add the rear camera to the trailer. Do I need to get one In order to see while using the 5er? Backup assist was silly. I feel like it was a waste of money. I got it for the cameras and didn’t realize that it was the steering knob thing. Overall the truck has been fine. I’m not sold on Ford over Ram at this point. I think the shorter truck was more enjoyable to drive and the cameras and interior were nicer on the Ram. That being said the Ford tows like a champ.

I signed the build sheet and noted on it that it was xplan. I also submitted my xplan pin. My work id and my license. It was all a bit of a show. They never intended on actually using the plan.

There isn’t any accountability for anyone. I sold my truck to Carmax and went back to the dealer. They used a bait and switch tactic that is illegal but Ford doesn’t care. They ordered my truck claiming it was an x-plan order. They tried to kill the deal repeatedly so they could sell it out from under me. They didn’t file xplan paperwork but told me it was xplan. They pointed and said “that’s the xplan price” but they won’t be held for violations because they never produced any paperwork. They refused to show me xplan paperwork and denied the rules. They took my pin and pretended it was xplan though. I was charged 275 in fees that they refused to go to 100 on. They also added a 299.00 security charge which they refused to remove. They didn’t honor the price protection. I signed for it. I had no choice. I already sold my truck and the sales manager just threatened to “kill the deal” if I didn’t agree. I still have to go back to pick it up with my cashiers check. I’ll file a complaint with ford that will go nowhere. Never again Ford. Never again. Worst time of my life. Spent almost 70 grand and they treated me like a criminal. Good luck to everyone else.

Spoke to my attorney. They can’t sue me for anything. No different than a bad Yelp review. Especially if what they are doing is true. Can someone confirm the 100.00 xplan fee limit. They are trying to now tell me the dealer fees are 275.00 as per nj law. Xplan site says 100.00. Maybe one of the mods can confirm the 100.00. I really got a terrible dealer they can’t even get me a price to give my credit union. They tried to act like the price was not changed but it clearly was raised. So awful.

Now they tell me that xplan doesn’t have price protection on the 250.00 because I changed the options. Is there a number for ford corporate?

You can’t sue for libel or defamation if it’s true. And the laws are so hard to prove. I’d love to see that. While we are at it. Let’s go and do a deep dive on the dealerships financial practices too.

We have that in NJ too. He lowballed me because he wants to make the profit on this truck that he would get if it wasn’t an x-plan sale. Period! He tanked the deal because it’s what these greedy people do. Once I cancel. That truck sells for 10k more than my deal with a fair trade. There is nothing I can do. His gm will be proud that he screwed me over.

It rhymes with Browns Ford in Roms Tiver NJ. The sales manager is a total con. Tells me that they can’t sell a Ram and that they will sell it wholesale for nothing. Meanwhile they have a 2021 Chevy Colorado on the lot used for 40 grand. Which is over KBB. I would have moved on my trade. But I’m not giving it away.

Apparently the market that has my truck selling at 50k doesn’t apply to an xplan deal. They need to make thousands. My truck on carmax came in at 48200. The dealer told me 42k. And then told me it’s really like 44 since I save 2k on taxes. I didn’t cancel the order. It’s what they really wanted. I left. They still have my deposit. I won’t do they deal but I also don’t need to sign the truck back over to them today.

Went to pick up my truck. They turned out to be a scumbag dealership. Offered me almost 7k under market for my trade. Refused to move. Told me that he would give me my money back. He said that I can sell my truck and come back with cash. He said that x-plan is basically something they do as goodwill. I knew this would happen. These dealerships are total scum. So now I waited 7 months for nothing. They also told me that they would never sell a Ram and that it would just lose them money at wholesale.

I got the same call today. Ordered July 20. Truck came in today and they are going to detail it and have it ready for pickup Monday. Took long enough. I hope the atlas blue looks good.

Anyone here talk to dealer once the truck shipped. I’m thinking of calling them to make sure that my price is correct before it even gets there.

It’s not ironic at all. This isn’t apples to apples. It’s not the same thing at all. MSRP increases all the time and Ford can sell their cars with that increase on the sticker before the truck ships. The dealers changing the msrp on the vehicle over what ford sent it to them at is what Ford has a problem with. The supply chain shouldn’t support an increase at the retailer.

When you have the truck shipped will they notify you as it ships or just when it gets to the dealer? I see people on here who tracked their truck's rail car, but how do they know it shipped? My truck didn't really update until it told me it was done being built. Seems like 2 weeks is a short time to ship it to NJ but maybe it will be here.

I finally got the email telling me that my truck was built. It says it’s estimated to be delivered sometime from Feb 12-18. Let’s hope this saga ends soon. That’s 7 months form order to dealer if it gets there. Now comes the process of negotiating the actual sale. Can’t wait.

TLDR Go Bengals!!!!!!!!

The truth hurts and may not be nice to read but it is true. Many many many dealers are total con artists. If there are “plenty” of ethical dealers, they aren’t in my neck of the woods. 5000.00 over msrp, not accepting x-plan right now, bait and switch. Just a few of the examples of what I observed in the past year. Took me over 20 dealerships to get my wife’s car. I literally went through over 7 to find one to order on the xplan. It is not an ethical trade for most.

Moved to “In Production” today and got my window sticker.

Unfortunately many car dealers tend to be awful and have almost zero integrity. If the bulletins on this forum are accurate and Ford does honor the prices from when you ordered, I would think that a regional rep would at least confirm that to the dealer. Then again the entire process of buying a car is made to allow these dealers an opportunity to completely hose their customers. I personally can’t wait until this current boom dies down and they are back to chasing people in their lots and begging for sales.

Normally I might actually try that tactic. But since I also bought a brand new 5th wheel in the spring I’m going to try to keep it reasonable. You know. Like an almost 70 thousand dollar new truck reasonable.