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tjm73

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  1. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    My dealer offered me $38,500 for my '17 F150 and said if you keep the miles near what it was at the time, the trade in offer would be honored. I don't daily the truck so it only has about 36-37K on it and since ordering the F250 I've put a couple hundred on it tops. Hopefully their true to their word. He also said if I want to sell it to someone else they are fine with that too. In the end it's just dollars to them. Of course this was after a long talk about the business and my Father as he knew my Father and that my family owned a Ford dealership for 35+ years. I keep nda know how the business works.
  2. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Ok. Took a couple minutes but it came up. In Ford speak, what does "In Production" actually mean? Is it actually being built or has the order been sent to the factory to be built next week as the most recent email says?
  3. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    I'm guessing that no tracking results means there is nothing to track yet?
  4. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Ok. Mine is a letter and 3 numbers, but returns nothing when I put it in it returns nothing.
  5. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Ok..... I'm feeling dense. I can't seem to locate my order number. Is it on the window sticker?
  6. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    BOOM! Got my window sticker. Thanks. Now I need to look into this order tracker you spoke if.......
  7. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    I am also scheduled for the week of the 27th. Can I look for my window sticker someplace or is it in an email only? I fear the dread pushed back email as well.
  8. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    When do window stickers become viewable and where would I view it?
  9. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    If some dealerships hadn't painted themselves into the crappy corners they live with BS behaviors, screwing people over, buyers wouldn't be willing or eager to consider and expect non negotiable pricing. Also, many people are sick or or just don't want to dicker for a fair price. Give me the best price that you give everyone else and I will buy the darn car. The market is evolving. The nickname "stealership" exists for a reason. People feel like they are getting ripped off at probably the majority of dealerships. My dealership sells at the published invoice. Period. I ordered January 31, 2022. Walked in said this is what I want. They printed up the spec sheet with the MSRP and the invoice (invoice matched what I found online). Then they said we don't dicker. Invoice is our price. I signed. No BS. So some dealers are adding extra monies to get what ever extra they can. Mine has stuck to their sales model. And they have a greatvl reputation as a result.
  10. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    As my build week gets closer and having been pushed back one week already I am hoping with all hope I don't get pushed back again
  11. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    You fail to see the parallel. Of course we are not dealing with locks. To suggest we were would be idiotic. But the business model is identical and that was my point. $90 lock, $90,000 truck. Process is the same. If you don't like your chosen vendor, perhaps you should have chosen a different vendor. Or perhaps you need to ask your vendor better questions. You're allowing your emotions to cloud what is a purely business transaction to the dealer and Ford. Because the dealer has bought the truck you are buying from them, from Ford. In exactly the same way I buy a lock from Yale, mark it up and resell it to a contractor. As I said Ford can apply pressure if they want, but they are more willing to work with the dealership than you. Because their business relationship is with the dealership. Not you. The dealership bought one truck from Ford for you. Ford expects them to buy hundreds of vehicles for hundreds of customers. Ford will not jeopardize that relationship over every customer that is not a direct customer being upset about market conditions that are not within their control. Your complaint is with your chosen dealer. It is not Ford's fault or problem that you are not happy with your dealers response to your questions.
  12. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    This may sound weird, but..... We are not buying our truck from Ford. We are buying our truck, built by Ford, from the independent dealer. The dealer is not Ford. They are a separate business licensed by Ford to sell Fords. This is not different from the commercial hardware world I work in. If you buy a Yale or Best or Kwikset lock from someone and have a problem with the order or the lock, you don't call the manufacturer, you call where you bought it. It is their job as the distributor to handle all the issues and questions. Some do this well some...not so well. Dealerships are basically contracted to act as the public interface between Ford and the consumer. Ford makes it. The dealer buys it. The dealer resells it. The consumer buys it. This is the distribution business model. Increasingly it seems people don't know about or understand it. Ford does not and cannot tell a dealer how to operate their business. They can apply some leverage if they have to, but at the end of the day, Ford is not actually selling you that truck.
  13. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Thanks. I wasn't figuring out the acronym. I'd love to get a PCO in about 8-12 months from now. I'll be in the market for a replacement for my daily driver and the Maverick is a strong contender, as is the sonn to be released redesigned Ranger.
  14. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    What does PCO stand for?
  15. tjm73

    2022 Super Duty Orders & Discussion

    Is this reflective of the two week July 4th production shut down? Wife and I took the kids to Detroit a couple years ago around the 4th of July to the Henry Ford museum and we did the Rouge truck plant tour. But no trucks were being built due to a annual shut down.
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