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It can also be a collision sensor warning. Basically it's telling you that the camera or the forward facing sensors are blocked for some reason. Letting you know that you need to be more aware of your speed, distance, or lane centering. I believe adaptive cruise, lane centering, distance monitoring, pedestrian pre-emptive collision braking, forward collision braking, etc are affected in this case. I think all the 23's and 24's have the 360 copilot technology and I think it may even go back to 2020. It can also be caused by driving directly into the sun. Glare on the camera can make it hard for the system camera to make out what ever it is looking for. Sometimes it's just moisture on the windshield (early morning when you get streaking from the wipers) Dirty wiper blades can make it worse!

The Group 48 AGM is not "specified" for the vehicle but it does fit fine (with a very slight modification of the bracket) and the spare fits over it fine. I decided to go that route and paid for the "upgrade". Most of the searches I did said that would fix the problem and it has not come back even in cold nights in Tahoe. (only a few so far) I think it went to sleep one time but I expected it because I was charging several devices and listening to the radio for almost an hour without starting the vehicle.

I found I was having that exact battery problem from day one on my 2023 Hybrid. I was probably driving less than you initially. (probably still not driving 60mi a day) If I did a long drive (couple hours) the symptom would resolve for a short while. Research shows that it's probably the fact that the stock 12v battery H4 is a pretty small capacity so if you stop driving, turn off the engine and sit in your car for a few minutes listening to the radio, or have the fans running, it will drain that battery real fast. It then shuts down to make sure that you will be able to power back up when you need to go again. (which is done using the main HV battery, and then it charges up the 12v battery again. The fix for me was to go ahead and pay for an AGM Group 48 battery which will hold the charge much better and is a much higher capacity battery. Have not had my vehicle to to "deep Sleep" since. Even when left out in subzero weather. I'll know even better once ski season hits because it will be in subzero weather every weekend then. And yes the Group 48 battery fits fine. You do need to bend/modify the hold down bracket to accommodate the physically longer battery but it fits fine.

Since I installed the new Group 48 AGM I have not had the deep sleep notification. Looks like that solved it. Now if I can just figure out where to control the USB ports. The rear ones (behind the center console in the passenger area) keep going to sleep even when I'm driving.

So I bit the bullet.. Installed an Interstate Group 48 AGM Battery in my Hybrid. Since then I have not seen any of those deep sleep mode messages. It's been about a week now. Will continue to check in as my experience grows. It was an easy fit although the cables are almost too short to make the connection. The battery hold down moved over to the other nut with no problems. Spare still fits over the top no problem, The only mechanical issue was that the "cover" that has the spare hold down bolt, had a small tab to keep the old 45AH battery from sliding over. It's pretty thin gauge metal so it was easy to gently bend out of the way.

IIRC Convoy means it will be put on a truck at the plant. The question will be if they have enough vehicles to send the truck or will it be waiting for additional vehicles to get loaded before departing on it's "Convoy"

Definitely sounds like a group 48 AGM is in my future. Even If I have to put it in myself. When I drove 30+ miles mostly freeway, but drove it very carefully so that I was running electric a lot of the way, it only took about 2 minutes of me listening to the radio upon arrival for my vehicle to go to "deep sleep" mode. I did get about 52MPG on the 30mi trip which was kind of cool! I would like to be able charge my phone or other items from time to time without having to start the engine up.

I need to do more research on this but according the few articles I read, on some hybrids, While they use DC-DC charging for the 12V system, many require the ICE engine running to enable the DC-DC charge unit. If this is the case along with the small slow charging battery, it may be why I don't get enough of a charge on the 7 mile drive across the city. A couple times I drove the seven miles with about 6 miles electric. (Hybrid not PHEV) Last several blocks were in a tunnel so of course the headlights are on and downhill so I'm almost always on electric this part of the drive. As soon as I parked, the vehicle went right into deep sleep.

Thank you for the explanation. I had not dug into the charging systems yet. That helps and explains more about why I'm seeing the behavior you mention. An AGM may be in my future. or even a LiFePO? Anyone try one of those yet?

Oh. I did find this over on the Ford Escape forum https://www.fordescape.org/threads/2020-ford-escape-hybrid-replace-12-volt-battery-with-larger-group-48-agm.117248/page-9

Anyone with a Hybrid or PHEV notice that if you don't do long drives, that the vehicle keeps going into "power save" or even "Deep Sleep" mode after a short drive. I suspect that the short 7-9 mile drives back and forth across town are not enough to really charge the 12V battery. Especially if I'm driving real carefully and keeping the vehicle in Electric as much as possible. There have been several times where, as soon as I park my Escape and hit the "engine off" button, it immediately goes to "power save" even after driving all the way across San Francisco. I do get the message in Ford Pass, that my vehicle's remote functions will not work, but nothing is wrong.. That it's common for this to happen when you have not driven the car in a while. When I did a long drive (380Mi round trip) the symptom went away for a couple weeks. Now it's back to doing it again right after I park the vehicle.. Guess I have to drive it harder so that the engine keeps running? Kind of defeats the purpose of driving it while trying to capture as much recovery energy as possible. but It is fun getting 50+ MPG driving the HEV across town! Can I put the 12V battery on a trickle charger at night?

Also any tests being done don't usually account for turning up the volume for road noise. especially at higher speeds. In my Van I sound proofed and deadened as many panels as I could. It's would still be a rough setup. Back in the 70's I actually had my own business installing custom sound systems in vehicles so there is a little bit of history/experience from my end.

And by the way, most sound engineers and musicians judge sound quality by how flat the response is over the whole spectrum. Not just on how loud the bass sounds and feels. A vehicle that is a tough environment to work in along with the constraints of trying to save space means some compromises need to be made. I set up my spectrum analyzer app to listen to some jazz and classical music at a reasonable level for me and found that the playback was surprisingly flat without tonal adjustments. Not generally how most people prefer for their listening habits but a flat response tells me that the system will reproduce sounds pretty accurately presuming that you are not cranking the volume up so high as to distort the speakers

If it's just loud bass you can feel that you are looking for, get one of these. I don't need to feel or blast my ears so not for me but.... Also I'm not willing to give up my cargo space. and most additional subwoofer /spare enclosures require the spare be flipped with the space facing up. IIRC the 12v battery is under the spare and the spare is flipped the "Wrong way"

Same here. I found it to be fine too if I wanted a traveling sound studio, I would not have bought an Escape

Yup. I don’t blast my ears to get a thump to “feel”?. The bass Is not as good as a real good enclosure, the balance of space gained and weight saved I think is a good compromise for me. Install an additional enclosure if the bass is not enough.

this one is a "click-click-click-click-click" and it is not there when I brake hard or extremely gently. Only when I slow slowly with light pressure on the brake. It seems to be the front left but it's possible it's just where I'm sitting. My wife hears it when sitting in the passenger seat but she has not said it's sounds like it's the left or right. Again I tried turning on the "power flow" app on the infotainment screen and it seems also to correspond mostly to when I'm braking and the "regenerating battery" switches to AWD. Guessing it's probably a solenoid firing to transfer load somewhere.

In the ordering thread I mentioned a sound I'm hearing when applying the brakes. I figured I should create a new thread rather then fill the ordering thread with off topic discussions. Configuration of this Escape is 2023 AWD Hybrid, Platinum package. The sound I'm hearing and feeling is when I'm coming to a stop and applying the brakes. As I start to apply pressure to the brake pedal, I'm first feeling the vehicle begin to slow, then as it slows in the 15-5MPH range I hear a slight clicking coming from the front end (because I'm on the drivers side that's all I seem to hear) I have not heard it while sitting in the passenger seat yet. it seems to go away once I get to the 5mph range and does not return when I reach dead stop. It almost sounds like something electronic engaging and disengaging very quickly and the rate seems falls as as the vehicle speed falls telling me it's related to the speed of the wheel turning. When I slam on the brakes or brake aggressively the symptom/sound does not happen. And when I brake extremely gently ie rolling up to a stop sign on a slight up incline so very little pressure on the brake pedal, the sound does not happen. Today as I was driving around taking service calls I decided to pay closer attention to when the symptom was happening so I turned on the "power flow" app on the infotainment screen and now I think I have another part to add in. It seems to only happen when I'm decelerating in electric mode, AND the vehicle is attempting to use all four wheels to regen energy. When ever the sound was present, the rear wheels were engaged in the drive/deceleration process. When I was able to slow to a stop without the rear wheels being involved, the symptom was absent leading me to believe that it's a solenoid or some part of the regen motor engaging and dis-engaging as part of the slowing process. Not sure if anyone here would be able to confirm this but thought I'd throw it out there. I did notice a similar sound when I used to drive my Dad's 2004 Escape AWD Hybrid but when I mentioned it to the mechanic that used to service that vehicle, they told me it was nothing. That vehicle is still on the road today. (my Nephew is now driving that vehicle)

Just trying to get an idea what some of you new Escape owners have done to your new Escape? Aftermarket or OE? and what have you invested in to keep your Escape in good shape? Since I'm asking, Here's what I've done/Purchased (so far) 2023 Escape Hybrid, AWD Platinum with Vista Moon Roof, Tech package, and trailer hitch (all factory). Paint Protection Film applied to front end. I did the partial front which is the small forward facing part of the hood and two front fenders, The two mirrors (forward facing) and all the painted portions of the grill and bumper. I went with Xpel Ultimate product. Windshield protection film. (Exoshield) Tinted 70% transmission the two front roll up windows (mainly to block UV) really almost clear. Also using Xpel product. I purchased a set of tire chains and verified fit but have not used them yet. My intended use and need for AWD is I'm in the Sierra Nevada Mountains almost every weekend during the winter. The tire chains I got are Konig brand and attach to the outside of the wheel/rim using a special wheel locking lug Installed a Coverking cargo area cover to protect the carpets in the Cargo area (split seat and bumper roll out cover) Installed aftermarket edge guards on all the doors to protect my doors as well as those around me when the wind pushes the door open as I exit the vehicle. Installed Weather tech air deflectors front and rear windows Installed Weather tech cargo area custom fit floor covering throughout. Purchased and installed a cargo area cover (OE) using my Ford points. Purchased a Catalytic Converter antitheft protection system. https://www.catstrap.net/ Installed a console vault to protect valuables. https://www.consolevault.com/ I figure It's going to be my daily driver, cargo mover, and I live in a large city where theft can be a problem. I also will need it to do business as well as commute to snow country. Making it my vehicle!

Yes. Hybrid. Pretty sure it’s normal and has to do with the regen motor engaging and disengaging. It’s just a little disconcerting.

NIce.. Braking I noticed a bit of a vibration almost like running over a shallow rumble strip on the front left (possibly on the front right as well but I'm not sitting on that side) only at low speeds and when I brake gently. It is only from about 5MPH thru 2MPH then it stops. It's not there when I have to brake hard or if I'm extremely gentle on the brake.

Here's what ice-capades posted.

Price protection should have been in place when you ordered the vehicle. Search back in this forum. Ice-Capades put some info about that earlier. The way my dealership explained it to me is that when you purchase the vehicle with financing, they have to wait for the Ford Credit, to send them (The dealership) the payment for the vehicle, and then the dealership gives you the refund of the difference.

I just had to talk to the F&I guy and showed them the Ford offer from "Ford Authority" and they looked it up. 36 MO, 0% The extended warr, they tried to offer me that at 5500.. I told them I would get my own with gap insurance and they then offered it to me for 2700 and gave me a 500 credit to make it 2200. Better than I had found otherwise so I was able to take that as well, and added it to the financing so it's 0% as well. You just have to know your numbers so you know what you can bargain for. This website will have all the Ford MOCO info regarding what offerings Ford and Ford credit are offering. https://fordauthority.com/category/ford/escape/