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Six new Ford products between now and 2030
Zestyg replied to Sherminator98's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
That was just a production code. The Fathom was listed as “Maverick EV” on that report, it was a placeholder. The “Escape” EV likewise is probably a placeholder for the UEV C-segment crossover, which if I had to guess will be called the Fuze or perhaps the Mythic. At this point with how much Ford clearly hates the Escape, I would be surprised if they reuse the name on UEV. The cheap crossover is likelier, because if they’re gonna have a shitty boring car it might as well be cheap. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Unless you mean the Chevy Bolt, which I would agree is a great deal and GM shouldn’t discontinue it, even with the extended range battery option this should be several $1,000’s cheaper than the base models for the Ioniq 5 and Equinox EV which have ~240 and ~320 miles of range. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I believe Google Gemini is misquoting the Tesla user guide which says you should charge it to 100% **at least** once per week. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
With how small the battery seems to be they’d have to have over 20% better efficiency than Lucid to get 300 miles. The other way would be increasing the battery size to above 70 kwh, which would mean you only need to be as efficient as a Toyota bZ to get 300. If Ford can manufacture battery for $100/kwh, then that would be another ~$2,000 in manufacturing costs which would bring the Fathom up to like probably $32k-ish after destination once you account for Ford’s need to profit on that $2,000. Close, but not quite. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
LFP can and should be charged to 100% unlike other chemistries. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
AFAIK 200 with LFP actually means 200 -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Its worth noting that unless BORG is including options he didn’t mention, the implied out-the-door price including sales tax here would be ~$38k ($29,945+$2k awd + $4k battery +~ 7% sales tax = $38,461.15, this is not including registration and any other fees which probably does bring you to $40k). The Equinox EV LT1 is like $40,625 with AWD and no options before sales tax, I think the Ioniq 5 only gets AWD at its top trim which brings you close to $50k. Model Y AWD base is like $44k before taxes and fees. Overall this does seem to be a better deal than competitors. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
It’s just a risk, since its a new product strategy to offer a much cheaper low range option. It is one worth taking, especially if the battery option is priced well. If the battery option is priced poorly then it would make this product really reliant on charging speed and charging network density, which is not up to snuff everywhere in the country. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Nissan Leaf just has a much bigger battery. If this thing does ~4.0 miles/kwh like the new Bolt and other competitors, a 55 kwh battery gets you 220 miles of range. If it’s 3.6 mi/kwh (older bolt) then that is 200. If its battery is larger, 65 kwh, then we’re looking at 235 to 265 miles of range. I personally feel that the battery is likely larger, but if someone here with inside info (NOT BORG) has any insight to battery size that would probably help clear things up. edit: it is worth noting that Ford previously did say that they’re aiming for 15% smaller than BYD atto, which would mean 51 kwh, which supports a 200 mile range for base. That definitely could be a problem, but I would at least personally be fine with it. -
Six new Ford products between now and 2030
Zestyg replied to Sherminator98's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Everest could make sense now that Ford is at capacity for Explorers and Bronco Sports. They’d have to price it in the mid 30’s, if they play it right I could see it reaching towards 100k with minimal cannibalism since its smaller + cheaper than the Explorer, not as off-road specialized as the Bronco which expands appeal, and of course is a step up from the Bronco Sport. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Since the Ford employee on reddit said to look at the flipbook for easter eggs, here is what I noticed: midgate (matches patent and the surfboard just couldn’t fit otherwise) Pro power onboard (twice): there does seem to be a center bump in the hood, which would mean I was off about the hood and the snow videos are probably pretty close to actual hood shape: there is also a shot of a Fathom owner buying a house, which means that the Ford Fathom will also be acceptable as a form of currency for a down payment on a house. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
yeah I expect 230-260. Similar to the Chevy Bolt. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I’m definitely getting it. Only question to me is about the AWD/battery options. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Yooooooooooooooo holy shit under $30k including desintation. This is a no-bullshit affordable EV. -
The Ford Fathom($28,350 EV truck thread)
Zestyg replied to Zestyg's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I’ll note he did say they’d *start* first week of August. Its entirely possible we hear the name in like November, alongside any other month.
