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You might not want to be a douchebag either as a moderator. Name calling, that must be in the moderator handbook.

You may want to get your sarcasm detector checked out.

Fact

Fact - it can cause permanent damage especially considering the thin paint/clear coat layer these days that prevents remediation with paint correction methods. So if it’s sitting outside in the elements for months without any attention (acid rain for instance is a thing), it would most certainly cause damage that cannot be corrected without a repaint. Again, some won’t care, I’ve already acknowledged that. Read up… That’s not the debate here anyway, vehicles sitting at random holding lots is different than sitting on dealer lots. Fact.

I didn’t forget. If I special order a vehicle I do not want it sitting in a holding lot for 3-6 months. That’s my choice and I doubt I am the only one. Plus if you read above, the truth is, vehicles that sit on dealer lots are not left in the same spot for months on end and they are washed on a regular basis. That’s the point and there is no debating it but yet you have members on this forum that will debate it for whatever reason.

Nobody said this concern is exclusive to Ford. You implied that Broncos or F-150’s sitting in random lots (not moving or washed) for 6 months is no different than sitting on a dealer lot. That’s simply not true. Educated buyers (and owners) do take to the internet and browse forums to make informed decisions. Your opinion may differ, but the lack of acknowledgement here isn’t necessarily the only answer. This is a legitimate concern for some buyers, again, whether you choose to agree with it or not is your choice. Speaking of concerns, did you take delivery of your “priority build” Bronco?

My Bronco was built in January and arrived at my dealer within 3 days. Many Broncos from the same build week are still sitting in the holding lot, presumably waiting on chip(s). If mine was sitting for 3 months+ in a holding lot, I would not take delivery. I’d just go purchase something else or place a new order. But then again, maybe I’m unique and actually give a damn about the paint condition and overall appearance of my vehicles. For those who feel differently or care less, to each their own. My 20+ year old Mustang after 100k miles is a good example of my OCD when it comes to caring for my vehicles.

Yes. Vehicles on lots are started/moved and washed on a regular basis. There is a difference whether you choose to agree or not.

Gotcha, I was confused by your response, that’s all 🤙.

Honestly, 15,000 units produced and delivered for 2022 MY would be a win. Rivian plans to build 25,000 units in 2022, if Ford ramps up as planned for 2023, the Lightning will be a resounding success.

I questioned nothing of the sort. You either misinterpreted the context of my post or quoted the wrong person…hence my response. I couldn’t care less if there are dealer stock Lightnings.

Yeah I know…you quoted my post related to the Lightning being “sold out”. I’m guessing you meant to quote a different post because sold out Lightnings has nothing to do with OKTB.

I couldn’t agree more, but manufacturers aren’t going to stop developing and marketing new products. Bronco Raptor is a prime example. You’d think that Ford would build existing orders before adding new models to the production mix considering the current supply constraints. I don’t understand it, but the reality is, manufacturers are moving forward with new products regardless of the supply situation. Here’s to hoping supplies normalize within the next year or so.

Huh? I’m not seeing anything other than the Lightning is sold out for at least the 2022 model year. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-f-150-lightning-sold-out-203004899.html

Not according to multiple media outlets, including the example linked below. Regardless, “sold out” or not, Lightning and Raptor are marketed to completely different customers. One could assume that Ford has another reason for holding back on releasing the Raptor R. https://fordauthority.com/2022/04/2022-ford-f-150-lightning-is-completely-sold-out/

I don’t understand the logic. Lightning is “sold out” according to Ford. Raptor R has a totally different customer base, you know, those who want a $90k super truck. There is certainly a market for both and it would be surprising if Ford bailed on the plan to build the Raptor R.

Or both. One thing is for certain, all new Lincoln’s will follow the Star design philosophy.

Interesting post over at Mustang7G…For those who like to overreact to blurry photos, here is the 2015 Mustang.

To each their own…

Known or posted mark-up isn’t really a problem. The dealer isn’t trying to hide anything, the customer decides whether to pay it. It’s the other shady dealer tactics that should be investigated, such as… https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-napleton-auto-settlement-ftc-illegal-fees-black-customers-20220401-4cmp6qnknzg7bahyhb5maqpsme-story.html

I don’t blame you on the MIC top concerns. I’m satisfied with the soft top, although I’ve only had it folded back a few times. If you care about the look, neither top is going to be ideal long term. If I can’t live with the soft top I will wait out my other res/order for the painted top. Regardless of the quirks and issues, these new Broncos are worth the wait. Did you keep your VB Mustang GT?

Haha, I don’t mind the look of black plastic mirror caps or door handles especially with the MIC top. I’m not counting on a painted top being a realistic option and that’s why I switched to soft top. Your Bronco looks awesome, I love the optional side vinyl graphic on the Wildtrak. Correct, mine is an OBX Sas with the black beauty ring. I am not a fan of the nickel/silver beauty ring so I had the dealer swap those out before taking delivery.

Love it! (Even without the painted mirror caps and door handles, and mod top ;-)) I only have 450 miles on mine, weather hasn’t cooperated much since I took delivery in January.

T-Dubz wins the prize: https://www.autoweek.com/news/trucks/a39564853/2023-ford-f-150-rattler/

Potentially a Raptor-lite, some sort of Tremor-like trim that is focused on desert running rather than off road “trails”?