ice-capades Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 2008 Fusion Order Guide 2008_Fusion_Order_Guide.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppermine33 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 about time ABS became standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szkwicz Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Have you seen one for the Milan or MKZ yet? If so, could you place a link? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Have you seen one for the Milan or MKZ yet? If so, could you place a link? Thanks! Sorry... I only have access to Ford Order Guides! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 about time ABS became standard Agreed... I can't believe people here defended keeping it as an option... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) I can't believe they still aren't offering HIDs yet. It'll be interesting to see what the 18 inch wheels look like. Edited April 23, 2007 by Drake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus05 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 So, if the order bank is open, does that mean we see it in July? I hope this is to get the 2008s produced and out of the way for the 2009s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) They took away Tungsten Silver and Alloy? What do the new silvers look like? Also-- Keyless entry now on SEL (!) It used to only be on the MKZ and I think Milan. Edited April 23, 2007 by Roadrunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) Still no traction control available on the I4 variants And no heated seats offered on S or SE variants. Crazy company. Edited April 23, 2007 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meelaan Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 They took away Tungsten Silver and Alloy? What do the new silvers look like? Also-- Keyless entry now on SEL (!) It used to only be on the MKZ and I think Milan. Only on MKZ thus far. My Dad's 2000 Sable has the button code on the door, but my 2007 Milan doesn't. Make any sense? Nope. As far as the 2008 Fusion features look, I'm impressed with a couple of things: 1. Red stitching and red leather inserts on the seats for the optional package. 2. "smoked black chrome grille?" Hmm... curious. 3. Tire pressure monitoring is awesome. As long as you don't have a lot of tools who want to throw aftermarket wheels on (that action prevents the sensors from working). Didn't see anything about 18 or 19 inch wheels... where'd you guys get that info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 (Keyless entry) Only on MKZ thus far. My Dad's 2000 Sable has the button code on the door, but my 2007 Milan doesn't. Make any sense? Nope. Ah, okay. Incidentally, the performance look I4 SE is really something - I wish I had my camera when I went over to the dealership that one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGallun Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 about time ABS became standard damn, guess i wont be buying a 2008 fusion or newer... i hate ABS.. i have been in 4 wrecks in my life.. all 4 where wtih ABS cars that i couldnt manuver the car like i could without ABS... ABS is for pukes who dont know how to drive imho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 damn, guess i wont be buying a 2008 fusion or newer... i hate ABS.. i have been in 4 wrecks in my life.. all 4 where wtih ABS cars that i couldnt manuver the car like i could without ABS... ABS is for pukes who dont know how to drive imho... How does ABS impede your emergency driving style? 99% of drivers out there don't have race-car driving skills, including myself. I'd much rather know they had ABS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvford Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 My 07 MKZ has the keyless entry. Sorry enough to say, I have yet to use it. I just took a peek at this order guide for the 08 Fusion and I am a bit disappointed to see that they are going to offer Light Sage to the Fusion. My MKZ is light sage and I think that is one of the things that makes it unique. Also, the voice activated navigation. I love the navigation I have, but I don't think that it is voice-activated. Oh well. I still love my MKZ! :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconman13 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 As far as the 2008 Fusion features look, I'm impressed with a couple of things:1. Red stitching and red leather inserts on the seats for the optional package. 2. "smoked black chrome grille?" Hmm... curious. 3. Tire pressure monitoring is awesome. As long as you don't have a lot of tools who want to throw aftermarket wheels on (that action prevents the sensors from working). Didn't see anything about 18 or 19 inch wheels... where'd you guys get that info? These arent new features. I have an 07 with the I4SE Package and it came with the smoked grill, red stitching and tire pressure monitoring. The only difference is that you can now get these options on a V6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meelaan Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 These arent new features. I have an 07 with the I4SE Package and it came with the smoked grill, red stitching and tire pressure monitoring. The only difference is that you can now get these options on a V6 Shows what I know (or don't). Haven't seen any Fusions that look the way that's described. Of course, there's simply not a lot of those on the road down here period. As for the ABS issue raised: My '94 Taurus had ABS. My Dad got in a crash with the car... t-boned a pickup at an intersection. He promptly removed the fuse for the ABS after that. So instead of having ABS active, he had the ABS malfunction light on the dash illuminated. When I bought the car from him, the fuse was still in the glove box. I guess I blindly trusted that ABS was a problem and didn't put it back in. Got in a crash on a rainy highway doing 55mph into the back of a pickup that pulled out in front of me. Put the ABS fuse back in when humpty-dumpty was rebuilt for the second time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shllshck Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I'm disappointed to see that the Fusion is still not going to get the Duratec 35. Camry already has the 3.5 and so does Altima. The Accord will most likely have a 3.5 come this fall with the new 2008 Accord. The 2008 Mailbu, like the 2007 Saturn Aura, will have a 3.6 252 hp engine. When will Ford finally put the 3.5 in the Fusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I'm disappointed to see that the Fusion is still not going to get the Duratec 35. Camry already has the 3.5 and so does Altima. The Accord will most likely have a 3.5 come this fall with the new 2008 Accord. The 2008 Mailbu, like the 2007 Saturn Aura, will have a 3.6 252 hp engine. When will Ford finally put the 3.5 in the Fusion? Next year. It's only "needed" for paper comparisons and magazine tests. They're selling all they can make right now with almost no incentives. How many more could they possibly sell with the 3.5L? They need the extra time to ramp up production on the 3.5L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shllshck Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Next year. It's only "needed" for paper comparisons and magazine tests. They're selling all they can make right now with almost no incentives. How many more could they possibly sell with the 3.5L? They need the extra time to ramp up production on the 3.5L. I personally like the additional power from the Duratec 35. I know Ford needs to ramp up the production. I'm sure with a limited supply it's tough choosing which vehicles needed the 35 more. The Five Hundered/Taurus, Montego/Sable, and Freestyle/Taurus X were definitely in need. The Zephyr/MKZ and MKX absolutely needed the upgrade to compete in the entry lux segment. The Edge and Fusion both would benefit from the 35 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconman13 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Hey MeeLaan There was also a similar Mercury package, except that it used Ice Blue instead of Red. I don't know how they handled the grill , if at all. The package for the Fusion or the Milan was only available with certain exterior colors. Fusion was Redfire, Black, Silver Merc was that Dark Charcoal, I believe the Amethyst (sp) and maybe Silver also The package came with 17 inch wheels and body colored fog light surrounds also I almost ordered a Milan with the package, but I wanted to see it in blue for myself and the dealer literature didn't even show a picture of it. Looks like it may have been dropped for the Milan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63FalconFutura Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Does anyone have an idea as to when Job 1 of the 2008 models will take place??? I am planning on buying a 2007 Fusion in mid to late summer, and I noticed from the 2008 Order Guide that the color I want won't be offered for 2008 (Tungsten Silver). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meelaan Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Take into account the 3.5L is not as frugal with fuel consumption as its similarly displaced competitors. This could hinder Ford from ever offering it in the Fusion/Milan. Ford just doesn't seem able to make a V6 capable of competitive fuel economy. With the exception of Chrysler, every other major automaker is capable of delivering a 3.5L with decent horsepower and great fuel economy. And if you want to argue that Ford's numbers are nearly identical, I counter with this: talk to anyone who just bought a Fusion V6 or MKZ and see what their opinion is on Ford's advertised fuel economy numbers. They'll tell you they were flat out duped. Ford 3.5L - 19/27 Nissan 3.5L - 22/28 Toyota 3.5L - 22/31 Honda 3.5L - 20/29 GM (Chevy) 3.5L - 21/31 GM (Saturn) 3.5L - 20/30 Chrysler 3.5L - 18/28 Fuel economy is a huge selling point and must be addressed to even consider making the 3.5L available in the Fusion. For my part, it doesn't even make sense as it's the Taurus/Sable motor now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbalek Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Take into account the 3.5L is not as frugal with fuel consumption as its similarly displaced competitors. This could hinder Ford from ever offering it in the Fusion/Milan. Ford just doesn't seem able to make a V6 capable of competitive fuel economy. With the exception of Chrysler, every other major automaker is capable of delivering a 3.5L with decent horsepower and great fuel economy. And if you want to argue that Ford's numbers are nearly identical, I counter with this: talk to anyone who just bought a Fusion V6 or MKZ and see what their opinion is on Ford's advertised fuel economy numbers. They'll tell you they were flat out duped. Ford 3.5L - 19/27 Nissan 3.5L - 22/28 Toyota 3.5L - 22/31 Honda 3.5L - 20/29 GM (Chevy) 3.5L - 21/31 GM (Saturn) 3.5L - 20/30 Chrysler 3.5L - 18/28 Fuel economy is a huge selling point and must be addressed to even consider making the 3.5L available in the Fusion. For my part, it doesn't even make sense as it's the Taurus/Sable motor now. My 2003 EPA estimates on my Infiniti G35 are 19/26 and under normal (not agressive) driving I barely hit 17 in the city and 25 on the highway. This has been the case since it was brand new, even before the break-in period! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shllshck Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Take into account the 3.5L is not as frugal with fuel consumption as its similarly displaced competitors. This could hinder Ford from ever offering it in the Fusion/Milan. Ford just doesn't seem able to make a V6 capable of competitive fuel economy. With the exception of Chrysler, every other major automaker is capable of delivering a 3.5L with decent horsepower and great fuel economy. And if you want to argue that Ford's numbers are nearly identical, I counter with this: talk to anyone who just bought a Fusion V6 or MKZ and see what their opinion is on Ford's advertised fuel economy numbers. They'll tell you they were flat out duped. Ford 3.5L - 19/27 Nissan 3.5L - 22/28 Toyota 3.5L - 22/31 Honda 3.5L - 20/29 GM (Chevy) 3.5L - 21/31 GM (Saturn) 3.5L - 20/30 Chrysler 3.5L - 18/28 Fuel economy is a huge selling point and must be addressed to even consider making the 3.5L available in the Fusion. For my part, it doesn't even make sense as it's the Taurus/Sable motor now. In what Honda or Acura is the 3.5L getting 20/29? As far as I know, the Acura TL Type S is rated 19/28 and the Acura RL is rated at 18/26. The base TL uses the standard 3.2L which does rate at 20/29. The Pilot is rated at 18/24 for 2WD and 17/22 for 4WD with 244 HP and 240 ft-lb. The Edge is rated at 18/25 for FWD and 17/24 for AWD with 265 HP and 250 ft-lb. The Duratec 35 is competitive in fuel efficiency. The Duratec 35 should have a higher EPA rating in the Fusion than the MKZ simply because the Fusion is a lighter vehicle. From the numbers I have seen, the Fusion has a curb weight of 3,101 lbs. compared to 3,406 lbs. in the MKZ. I'm sure Ford could tune the 3.5L for more efficiency and a little less HP if they want to distinguish the engine from the MKZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meelaan Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 In what Honda or Acura is the 3.5L getting 20/29? As far as I know, the Acura TL Type S is rated 19/28 and the Acura RL is rated at 18/26. The base TL uses the standard 3.2L which does rate at 20/29. The Pilot is rated at 18/24 for 2WD and 17/22 for 4WD with 244 HP and 240 ft-lb. The Edge is rated at 18/25 for FWD and 17/24 for AWD with 265 HP and 250 ft-lb. The Duratec 35 is competitive in fuel efficiency. The Duratec 35 should have a higher EPA rating in the Fusion than the MKZ simply because the Fusion is a lighter vehicle. From the numbers I have seen, the Fusion has a curb weight of 3,101 lbs. compared to 3,406 lbs. in the MKZ. I'm sure Ford could tune the 3.5L for more efficiency and a little less HP if they want to distinguish the engine from the MKZ. The Honda 3.5L I referenced is the V6 available in the Honda Accord. How's it possible that's the only Honda V6 you didn't consider? And why bother offering the 3.5L in the Fusion if Ford's going to have to tune it in order to make it both more efficient and reduce horsepower? How exactly does this make sense? If it's just a matter of doing it so they can keep with with imagined cubic-inch wars, there's no reason to do it. It cheapens the high-end product (MKZ) and provides no tangible benefit to the low-end products (Fusion/Milan). Again, if Ford can't even make a 3.0L V6 that's confidently capable of returning a real world combined 25MPG--like its competitors can--how the hell can anyone make the case for putting a larger, higher horsepower motor in its place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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