mrballsonya Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 With the significant future loses of UAW membership at Delphi, GM, and now Ford. How many Union Jobs will be lost at International? Its obvious when you have 80,000 less members you don't need as much representation. It would be criminal to force the remaining membership to pay for un-needed UAW Reps. Any one know the numbers or if this has been discussed before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailorjohn Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 With the significant future loses of UAW membership at Delphi, GM, and now Ford. How many Union Jobs will be lost at International? Its obvious when you have 80,000 less members you don't need as much representation. It would be criminal to force the remaining membership to pay for un-needed UAW Reps. Any one know the numbers or if this has been discussed before? It isn't criminal, it's the UAW way :lol: Probably none. The full time appointed reps will either retire with buyouts, or get picked up elsewhere. The international takes care of it's own, and occasionally, even takes care of us :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulewright Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 With the significant future loses of UAW membership at Delphi, GM, and now Ford. How many Union Jobs will be lost at International? Its obvious when you have 80,000 less members you don't need as much representation. It would be criminal to force the remaining membership to pay for un-needed UAW Reps. Any one know the numbers or if this has been discussed before? Harry, you know the answer to that one already.... they'll be adding jobs not cutting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahwah Man Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 (edited) Posted as of December 14, 2005, UAW vice president in charge of GM negotiations, Richard Shoemaker, is retiring. VP Gerald Bantom, in charge of Ford negotiations, and VP Nate Gooden for DaimlerChrysler, are also stepping down. This was posted right after the UAW announced what their Ford retirement medical benefit changes were to be, shortly after the General Motors medical benefit changes were announced. Edited January 29, 2006 by Mahwah Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrballsonya Posted January 29, 2006 Author Share Posted January 29, 2006 Harry, you know the answer to that one already.... they'll be adding jobs not cutting. :D .....Hey Ya think they have any millwright Jobs down there at the International? :lol: I Know I'll be looking for one in a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Bennet Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 With the significant future loses of UAW membership at Delphi, GM, and now Ford. How many Union Jobs will be lost at International? Its obvious when you have 80,000 less members you don't need as much representation. It would be criminal to force the remaining membership to pay for un-needed UAW Reps. Any one know the numbers or if this has been discussed before? dues will go up by an hour a month enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I predict dues will go up an additional $50/month. All national and local appointees will be given jobs at the international---for life. In addition, Gettlefinger will make sure all employees who do nothing but whine and bitch on forums will be fired, then stoned to death at Solidarity House. Enjoy! :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamCaan Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I predict dues will go up an additional $50/month. All national and local appointees will be given jobs at the international---for life. In addition, Gettlefinger will make sure all employees who do nothing but whine and bitch on forums will be fired, then stoned to death at Solidarity House. International knows exactly when buyouts are offered and they schedule there retirements around them. Workers that keep paying union dues are idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captamrica Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I predict dues will go up an additional $50/month. All national and local appointees will be given jobs at the international---for life. In addition, Gettlefinger will make sure all employees who do nothing but whine and bitch on forums will be fired, then stoned to death at Solidarity House. Enjoy! :rolleyes: I read it somewhere in a news article, sorry I can't reference it. Part of the medical package that was just voted on included FoMoCo being required to invest a certain $ amount in new technology. This was to translate into new postions being created in the UAW (appointed) to administer these "new technology" programs. These were something along the lines of the FPS and Quality Initiative programs already in place. So basically FoMoCo is paying off the international with more appointed positions for the Finger and his cronies to get what the company wants at the memberships expense and it's being diguised as a technological investment. That's my personal understanding of the article, maybe I'm misunderstanding it. Anyone know the article I'm referencing or have other information about this? I try to have facts when I post info or at least be able to reference where I got it. Also in that Medical coverage package was the VEBA Trust handling of retiree healthcare. You should read the October 05 issue of Time Magazine. FoMoCo is not the first company to transfer healthcare costs into this type of trust. This is a rule change enacted by our Republican controlled Congress and signed by our President. So far, since enacted, this type of trust has an abismal track record. On average, going bankrupt in about 7 years. Since employees and thier respective company did agree to this change the Trust is solely responsible for providing the healthcare to all retirees. Once it goes bankrupt healthcare is cut off and the company has no legal obligation to provide any healthcare coverage. It's a wonderful loophole for the companies who have used it. I do believe a old friend of ours was involved in the most recent use at Polariod, Jaques Nasser. The article goes much more in depth. Does our International really understand what they are getting us into? Unfortunately I think they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtplifer Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 The Teamsters have lawyers representing them. Why don't we have lawyers representing us at the UAW, instead, we have fat retarded redneck hillbillies with no formal education, except stupid union classes at black lake. I think it's time us UAW members stand up and demand a change. Get rid of the union and bring in the Teamsters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captamrica Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 The Teamsters have lawyers representing them. Why don't we have lawyers representing us at the UAW, instead, we have fat retarded redneck hillbillies with no formal education, except stupid union classes at black lake. I think it's time us UAW members stand up and demand a change. Get rid of the union and bring in the Teamsters! I agree it's time foe a change. I have noticed that many of our elected officials have gained a significant amount of weight while in office. After losing our night shift last Jan. many were forced back to the line only find they could not physically perform many job operations. I mean no disrespect by this comment, in fact I actually am worried for some of thier health. Not to mention recent editorials have made reference to the size of those interviewed and our pay scale. Suggesting that we don't do crap on our jobs and get paid to much. As far as redneck hillbilly's are concerned my Mom summed it up best after the 02 plant closing announcement and an interview with our then President was broadcast on the local news. "Who the hell was that on the news." "He spoke like he had a 6th grade education and I couldn't understand half the things he said." EXERPT: "We is going to do everyting in ours power to keep da plant open." How embarassing. As I said I intend no disrespect only that public perception is what they see on the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailorjohn Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I read it somewhere in a news article, sorry I can't reference it. Part of the medical package that was just voted on included FoMoCo being required to invest a certain $ amount in new technology. This was to translate into new postions being created in the UAW (appointed) to administer these "new technology" programs. These were something along the lines of the FPS and Quality Initiative programs already in place. So basically FoMoCo is paying off the international with more appointed positions for the Finger and his cronies to get what the company wants at the memberships expense and it's being diguised as a technological investment. That's my personal understanding of the article, maybe I'm misunderstanding it. Anyone know the article I'm referencing or have other information about this? I try to have facts when I post info or at least be able to reference where I got it. Also in that Medical coverage package was the VEBA Trust handling of retiree healthcare. You should read the October 05 issue of Time Magazine. FoMoCo is not the first company to transfer healthcare costs into this type of trust. This is a rule change enacted by our Republican controlled Congress and signed by our President. So far, since enacted, this type of trust has an abismal track record. On average, going bankrupt in about 7 years. Since employees and thier respective company did agree to this change the Trust is solely responsible for providing the healthcare to all retirees. Once it goes bankrupt healthcare is cut off and the company has no legal obligation to provide any healthcare coverage. It's a wonderful loophole for the companies who have used it. I do believe a old friend of ours was involved in the most recent use at Polariod, Jaques Nasser. The article goes much more in depth. Does our International really understand what they are getting us into? Unfortunately I think they do. Old news, but worth repeating. The "850 million dollar investment in new technology" that was touted as an incentive to pass the healthcare/retiree givebacks is old news. Futureoftheunion and other websites have good explanations of the exact nature of these "joint" programs. They aren't just getting money for reps in the 850M, they are probably getting direct cash payments from the company. Currently, the international derives 25% of it's income from these "joint" programs, which would explain why the international has more full time staff now than it did in 1980, when the actual membership was twice what it is today. The union has been bought by the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddydave1970 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I don't think this is relevevant, but just picture the Guinness commercial with the faces of Ron Gettlefinger and Bill Ford Jr. And the conversation goes like this......... BF I just figured out a way to unemploy 30,000 people and make you and I a buttload of money. RG BRILLIANT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddydave1970 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) You could also go as far as to imitate the Geico commercials Bill Ford Jr. - I just saved a bunch of money on production costs by switching to Mexico!!!!!! Edited January 30, 2006 by DaveKC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxrun Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 With the significant future loses of UAW membership at Delphi, GM, and now Ford. How many Union Jobs will be lost at International? Its obvious when you have 80,000 less members you don't need as much representation. It would be criminal to force the remaining membership to pay for un-needed UAW Reps. Any one know the numbers or if this has been discussed before? As a proud union member I am ashamed to say that you are in good part right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Bennet Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 The Teamsters have lawyers representing them. Why don't we have lawyers representing us at the UAW, instead, we have fat retarded redneck hillbillies with no formal education, except stupid union classes at black lake. I think it's time us UAW members stand up and demand a change. Get rid of the union and bring in the Teamsters! go with the Teamsters, more UAW locals switch to the team more than anyother union, usually 3rd and 4th tier shops with 100 or less employees UAW Quality: its starts with UAW Leadership! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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