mrballsonya Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 you got the wrong screen name...I don't think you have any! It's nice to hear from one of the 25 people that still support this debacle of a war. I support our troops 100%, it's the people that sent them to Iraq that I despise. Our troops should be home with their families, not fighting a war that cannot be won. The only winners in this conflict, will be Military contractors and oil company executives and investors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I support our troops 100%,..............fighting a war that cannot be won. These troops are all volunteers....meaning they joined because they wanted to, knowing that they would end up in Iraq in the war..and being in the military you learn to fight wars which is what they are doing...and they are taught to fight to win......in the military they don't teach you to make philosophical decisions as to whether you think the war is justified...so most are there to win... so if you say you support the troops but not to win...then you are full of shit.......these brave young men and women are out there putting their lives on the line and you sir are using their service as a political football...you should be ashamed....you are one of those left wing whackos who enjoys the freedoms but you don't want to make any sacrifices to help maintain them.....you are willing to let someone else do the dirty work then you want to enjoy the fruits of their labor and then you have the audacity to say they can't win......you and your ilk just hate the President and you use the war to criticize him....but you are willing to let our brave troops get caught in the middle......I don't honestly know how you are able to sleep at night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) These troops are all volunteers....meaning they joined because they wanted to, knowing that they would end up in Iraq in the war..and being in the military you learn to fight wars which is what they are doing...and they are taught to fight to win......in the military they don't teach you to make philosophical decisions as to whether you think the war is justified...so most are there to win... so if you say you support the troops but not to win...then you are full of shit.......these brave young men and women are out there putting their lives on the line and you sir are using their service as a political football...you should be ashamed....you are one of those left wing whackos who enjoys the freedoms but you don't want to make any sacrifices to help maintain them.....you are willing to let someone else do the dirty work then you want to enjoy the fruits of their labor and then you have the audacity to say they can't win......you and your ilk just hate the President and you use the war to criticize him....but you are willing to let our brave troops get caught in the middle......I don't honestly know how you are able to sleep at night! Well said! November 11th is approaching. Maybe he will remember then. In 1917 in France, many thousands of French and British troops were killed trying to take Vimy Ridge. Maybe it was a battle that "can't be won". Mr. Noballs would probably have agreed with that statement. Canada was a young country at that time, but the Canadian troops at Vimy Ridge were true patriots. With the world watching, and their country's honor on the line, they took that ridge. They suffered over 10,000 casualties, including 3598 killed, but turned the tide of the war in those bloody 4 days. Because of them, people all over the world recognize the Maple Leaf. Do not tell troops that a war cannot be won. Put into perspective, considering the relative populations of Canada and the US at that time, Canada suffered more casualties in those four days as a percentage of its population than the US suffered in the Viet Nam War. Edited November 8, 2007 by Trimdingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 These troops are all volunteers....meaning they joined because they wanted to, knowing that they would end up in Iraq in the war..and being in the military you learn to fight wars which is what they are doing...and they are taught to fight to win......in the military they don't teach you to make philosophical decisions as to whether you think the war is justified...so most are there to win... so if you say you support the troops but not to win...then you are full of shit.......these brave young men and women are out there putting their lives on the line and you sir are using their service as a political football...you should be ashamed....you are one of those left wing whackos who enjoys the freedoms but you don't want to make any sacrifices to help maintain them.....you are willing to let someone else do the dirty work then you want to enjoy the fruits of their labor and then you have the audacity to say they can't win......you and your ilk just hate the President and you use the war to criticize him....but you are willing to let our brave troops get caught in the middle......I don't honestly know how you are able to sleep at night! When have we won? What do we have to do to win? Enjoys the freedoms???? What freedoms am I enjoying because of fighting this BS war??? It's not they "just hate the President ", What does it take to win the "war on terror"??? We'll be fighting it forever. Also I don't know why you are in love with this president, He has not done anything good except give me some of my money back, hell I can't even say that because of all the debt he has created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Because of them, people all over the world recognize the Maple Leaf. Because of this war we recognize that more of the world dislikes us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Because of this war we recognize that more of the world dislikes us. "dislikes" us.....? you panty-waist coward......you cares?....you are just like no balls.....it's not the war or what other countries think...you are the hate Bush blame America first....you make me sick to my stomach..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Because of this war we recognize that more of the world dislikes us. They don't like us, therefore they attack us. You are saying that we deserve it? Which side are you on? According to your logic, we deserve to have more of our landmarks destroyed. Why don't we just destroy them ourselves if we deserve it? Go....somewhere....just go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) They don't like us, therefore they attack us. You are saying that we deserve it? Which side are you on? According to your logic, we deserve to have more of our landmarks destroyed. Why don't we just destroy them ourselves if we deserve it? Go....somewhere....just go. All I'm asking is open your mind more. Why don't they like us??? You will probably say who cares but was this ever answered, no. They just did'nt wake up one day and hate us. According to your logic it's the American Empire, you will do as we say or we will attack. Another question you guys always avoid is what would you do if someone came to your house and told you how to live??? Edited November 8, 2007 by fmccap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 They don't like us, therefore they attack us. You are saying that we deserve it? Which side are you on? According to your logic, we deserve to have more of our landmarks destroyed. Why don't we just destroy them ourselves if we deserve it? Go....somewhere....just go. that's exactly what he's saying...he gets that crap for the paultards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadzee Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Red Dawn....good movie? Agree or disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 All I'm asking is open your mind more. Why don't they like us??? You will probably say who cares but was this ever answered, no. They just did'nt wake up one day and hate us. According to your logic it's the American Empire, you will do as we say or we will attack. Another question you guys always avoid is what would you do if someone came to your house and told you how to live??? I guess I would expect it if I were sending my kids out with bombs strapped to them...killing innocent people.....get a backbone.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 They don't like us, therefore they attack us. You are saying that we deserve it? Which side are you on? According to your logic, we deserve to have more of our landmarks destroyed. Why don't we just destroy them ourselves if we deserve it? Go....somewhere....just go. hey Trim, he'll be gone in about 60 days...when the primaries start...you won't be able to find his cowardly ass on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Some good news for Nap. Impeachment is now ON the Table The mainstream media doesn't want to talk about it, so it's up to us to publish this on as many websites as humanly possible. If viral propagation can raise over $4 million dollars for Ron Paul in one day, then it can get this son of a bitch out of office, once and for all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Some good news for Nap.Impeachment is now ON the Table it will never happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 it will never happen... Because nobody cares anymore. I wonder if you could refute any of it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 ...you are the hate Bush blame America first....you make me sick to my stomach..... Here is another one of those scources that you like that says you my friend are the minority. Topping Nixon, Bush disapproval soars to highest level ever recorded in Gallup poll For the first time, George W. Bush has surpassed Richard M. Nixon in unpopularity in the Gallup Poll, receiving the highest "strongly disapprove" rating for a president in Gallup's history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Here is another one of those scources that you like that says you my friend are the minority.Topping Nixon, Bush disapproval soars to highest level ever recorded in Gallup poll but they are higher than ron pauls poll numbers...right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) All I'm asking is open your mind more. Why don't they like us??? You will probably say who cares but was this ever answered, no. They just did'nt wake up one day and hate us. According to your logic it's the American Empire, you will do as we say or we will attack. Another question you guys always avoid is what would you do if someone came to your house and told you how to live??? What would you be willing to do to get our enemies to like us? They are told to hate us and to not want what we have. We have more because we have a better system than they do. Their citizens are starting to figure that out. They have to be convinced that we are evil materialistic infidels who need to die. The more that we try to convince them otherwise, the more their leaders will tell them to hate us. Destroy all of your possessions, confess your sins, throw yourself on their mercy, and beg Allah for forgiveness. Then, maybe they would like you, but probably not. To really prove that you are sincere, you would have to do a suicide bombing. The only thing that they understand is fear and respect. If you crawl, they will not respect you or fear you. If you kill them, they will fear you and respect you. Edited November 8, 2007 by Trimdingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Here's how you can tell the military's having trouble recruiting because of the Iraq bloodbath: http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/200...035/1002/NATION Looks like they're lowering the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Here's an excellent article about what the chickenhawks don't talk about: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?hpid=topnews (What's happening to returning soldiers and their families. It's pitiful.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 More good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 What would you be willing to do to get our enemies to like us? They are told to hate us and to not want what we have. We have more because we have a better system than they do. Their citizens are starting to figure that out. They have to be convinced that we are evil materialistic infidels who need to die. The more that we try to convince them otherwise, the more their leaders will tell them to hate us. Destroy all of your possessions, confess your sins, throw yourself on their mercy, and beg Allah for forgiveness. Then, maybe they would like you, but probably not. To really prove that you are sincere, you would have to do a suicide bombing. The only thing that they understand is fear and respect. If you crawl, they will not respect you or fear you. If you kill them, they will fear you and respect you. Told to hate us by who?? You don't think our intervention into there countries and governments pisses them off??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrballsonya Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 (edited) ...so most are there to win... Win what? What is there to Win? If the War was about 9/11, than why did we invade Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia? If the war was about WMD's, and none were ever found... then why are we still over there? If the war was to liberate Iraq from Saddam Hussein, then we already "won" and our troops should've been home years ago. The only thing our troops are fighting now is something that has no face and no home. We will never be able to win a war against terrorism using force. Blowing up terrorists, sounds great on paper... but all it does is create a new Martyr and aid in the recruitment of future terrorists. The only way to defeat terrorism is to understand why they hate us and try to adjust foreign policy and actions accordingly. I personally believe that If this war was truly about terrorism, we would've had much better luck trying to infiltrate terrorist cells using highly trained agents and covert ops rather than occupying a whole Arabic country. The troops being killed now are almost exclusively being killed because of the occupation of a foreign country . If we happened to be invaded by Canada and Mexico Tomorrow... under the guise of "freeing us from the evil George Bush Regime", don't you think we'd by putting together some I.E.D.'s in our garage? Not everyone in Iraq hated Saddam, just like in the U.S. not everyone hates G.W. (I don't know why). Our troops are dying because we occupied a heavily Islamic country and now we're trying to force Democracy down the throats of a country that resides in a region that doesn't want it. To them we are the Terrorists i.e. (someone that is trying to change everything they believe in). What makes us right? Why are we trying to change a culture that has existed for 1000's of years? using their service as a political football...you should be ashamed.... You're kidding me right? A political football... that sounds like a statement pulled verbatim from a FOX NEWS broadcast, Yeah whatever. When I say "I support our troops" I mean.... now that our troops are put in this precarious position, I believe that we should try to get them out of Iraq as soon as possible. But since thats not happening... they should be equipped with the latest and best defensive devices, the best living conditions, the best weapons and the best care and benefits when they return home safely or wounded. you are one of those left wing whackos who enjoys the freedoms but you don't want to make any sacrifices to help maintain them..... The last time I checked, I had a lot more "freedom" before the patriot act was enacted. Please name one way that your insinuated "sacrifices" a.k.a. the occupation of Iraq have benefited the American people? you and your ilk just hate the President and you use the war to criticize him....but you are willing to let our brave troops get caught in the middle......I don't honestly know how you are able to sleep at night! You're right I don't sleep well at night, but it's not because of the reasons you state. I don't sleep well because, I believe the moronic decisions made by Bush and his advisor's in their 7 years of office have affected the quality of my life and will continue to adversely affect the quality of life of my children for years to come. I didn't just arbitrarily decide to hate our president. He made it easy to do with his inept leadership, omnipotent attitude, and terrible decision making. Edited November 9, 2007 by mrballsonya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 With an attitude like that there would be no wars and you would be speaking a non-English language. With all your fears and unrest you should stay in the kitchen and make some cookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 With an attitude like that there would be no wars and you would be speaking a non-English language.With all your fears and unrest you should stay in the kitchen and make some cookies. A typical non-response from a chickenhawk. Let's test your honesty cal: are you still a Ford employee? If not, you're violating the terms outlined by the boards' moderators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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