fmccap Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Look at all the death and destruction you cause making those evil death traps!810791.pdf Just about as stupid as blaming people on these boards for the deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. What a stupid comparison. We choose to drive if we like, if people didnt want to take that chance they would not drive. Now as far as the Iraqis, they did not choose for us to go over there and forcefully impose our will on them. We just did it. There is risk at anything we choose to do, it is up to us if we are willing to take that risk. They had no choice. Unless you are saying that any group of people are taking a chance at becoming a country risking there well being against us if we don't approve of how they do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 (edited) I am sick and tired of people who say "no wonder they hate us" or "why do they hate us". How about here is why I don't give a shit! It's like you justify what they do no matter what with this lame horseshit excuse but heaven help your own country if it does anything in retaliation. People like you need to have to indentify a few family members down at the local morgue after they are blown into small pieces by some of these scumbags. Then and only then I believe you could even begin to fathom what this is about and who we are dealing with. Once again I suggest an experiment for you. The next time your dog chews up your slippers or shits on the rug I want you to talk to the dag about it and see what happens next. Edited November 14, 2007 by unionj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 What a stupid comparison. We choose to drive if we like, if people didnt want to take that chance they would not drive. Now as far as the Iraqis, they did not choose for us to go over there and forcefully impose our will on them. We just did it. There is risk at anything we choose to do, it is up to us if we are willing to take that risk. They had no choice. Unless you are saying that any group of people are taking a chance at becoming a country risking there well being against us if we don't approve of how they do it. Read the last line of the post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 (edited) All justified in some peoples minds, our enemy abroad and within, foreign and domestic. Edited November 14, 2007 by unionj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Some more justified victims in the eyes of our enemies, foreign and domestic! http://avpv.tripod.com/AmericanVictims.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 What lovely caring humane people we deal with, foreign and domestic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I am sick and tired of people who say "no wonder they hate us" or "why do they hate us". How about here is why I don't give a shit! It's like you justify what they do no matter what with this lame horseshit excuse but heaven help your own country if it does anything in retaliation. People like you need to have to indentify a few family members down at the local morgue after they are blown into small pieces by some of these scumbags. Then and only then I believe you could even begin to fathom what this is about and who we are dealing with. Once again I suggest an experiment for you. The next time your dog chews up your slippers or shits on the rug I want you to talk to the dag about it and see what happens next. How about an experiment for you. Let's have someone move into your house and replace you as the head of the household. Is anyone living with you going to like it??? They tell you that now you are going to eat what they say and do things around there as they say. Will you like it??? I'm not trying to justify anything, just fix the problem. To fix the problem you need to get to the root(what is causing it) of the problem or it will never go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 What peace loving wonderful people these Islamists are, can't wait to see them have a sit down discussion on how to get along with some people on this board. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...h&plindex=6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 (edited) Look back at all the problems we have had with all these different ME countries, what does everyone of them have in common??? Edited November 14, 2007 by fmccap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 How about an experiment for you. Let's have someone move into your house and replace you as the head of the household. Is anyone living with you going to like it??? They tell you that now you are going to eat what they say and do things around there as they say. Will you like it??? I'm not trying to justify anything, just fix the problem. To fix the problem you need to get to the root(what is causing it) of the problem or it will never go away. No one told them how to do shit! The option of running the country was left up to them but just like cats and dogs they cannot get along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 No one told them how to do shit! The option of running the country was left up to them but just like cats and dogs they cannot get along. OK but it's always a Western backed guy that comes into power. Look at what is happening in Pakistan(US approved leader) and the country of Georgia(US approved leader) now, a lot of protesting of there governments and both places implemented martial law and now there is a bunch of rioting and chaos. Look back at Iran, the US sponsored coup that brought the Shah in. The people did not want him, we brought him in and they are just supposed to accept it??? Use your dog example here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 (edited) OK but it's always a Western backed guy that comes into power. Look at what is happening in Pakistan(US approved leader) and the country of Georgia(US approved leader) now, a lot of protesting of there governments and both places implemented martial law and now there is a bunch of rioting and chaos. Look back at Iran, the US sponsored coup that brought the Shah in. The people did not want him, we brought him in and they are just supposed to accept it??? Use your dog example here. To be quite honest I think the only person who could be charge of any of these middle ages mentality ridden countries would have to be pretty brutal in order to scare tranquility amongst the masses. Just like the dog scenario it is all they have the mentality to comprehend presently. Education and exposure will change that but the Islamists do not want that and they are our true enemy. I have worked and visited many islamic countries and got along well with the regular joes on the street but fear keeps them in their place. Edited November 14, 2007 by unionj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imawhosure Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 REPORT-REPORT!!!!!! The news coming out of Iraq is no news!!!!!!!! Been that way for awhile. Hmmm, wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 (edited) Which one is justified? I know Pumpyboys answer is the opposite of mine. Let me help, killed while riding a bus to go shopping, school or work or killed while trying to commit such a crime thus preventing it. You talk to him Pumpyboy and get Methsmoker to help you. Perhaps deep down inside he has some unsolved resentment or issues from not being hugged enough, perhaps he was spanked instead of getting time out or maybe it's his diet. Yeah that's it he has one of these new let's make a disease up, disease's like AADD or whatever todays new excuse disease is. yeah that's it he needs therapy and medication and social security and medicaid etc etc etc. Personally I'd like to shake the hand of the shooter and buy him a few beers. Edited November 14, 2007 by unionj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 REPORT-REPORT!!!!!! The news coming out of Iraq is no news!!!!!!!! Been that way for awhile. Hmmm, wonder why? may I take a guess?? could it be that the left-leaning media (-FOX) wants a dem in the WH next time and to report good news from Iraq would not bode well for their efforts and the 12 follwers of ron paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imawhosure Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 may I take a guess?? could it be that the left-leaning media (-FOX) wants a dem in the WH next time and to report good news from Iraq would not bode well for their efforts and the 12 follwers of ron paul. Oh Nap, you are sooooooo spot on. How in the world can that possibly be? We are just a couple of unedjumacated blue collar autoworkers. We should both be ashamed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 may I take a guess?? could it be that the left-leaning media (-FOX) wants a dem in the WH next time and to report good news from Iraq would not bode well for their efforts and the 12 follwers of ron paul. Take a guess at this, from your box. You say -FOX, but I would like to ask you who the owner of FOX is holding fundraisers for??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 may I take a guess?? could it be that the left-leaning media (-FOX) wants a dem in the WH next time and to report good news from Iraq would not bode well for their efforts and the 12 follwers of ron paul. Also lookup all the refugees that have left Iraq, how many people are left there???? Maybe it could be that our military are the only ones there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Also lookup all the refugees that have left Iraq, how many people are left there???? Maybe it could be that our military are the only ones there now. why does it matter to you...you don't care for either group of these people...our troops or the people of Iraq...when are you going to tell us which branch of the military you served in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 There's an excellent new movie about the horror of war, called "Redacted." http://www.redactedmovie.com/?utm_source=C...mpaign=redacted Of course, all you violent Fox Noise watchers will renounce it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 why does it matter to you...you don't care for either group of these people...our troops or the people of Iraq...when are you going to tell us which branch of the military you served in? You obviously don't care how many people die in your insane "war on terror." Now answer cap's question: who is Rupert Murdoch bankrolling for president? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 There's an excellent new movie about the horror of war, called "Redacted." http://www.redactedmovie.com/?utm_source=C...mpaign=redacted Of course, all you violent Fox Noise watchers will renounce it. According to thisarticle you, femcap and methos will have the theater to yourselves...(real) American are going to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 (edited) Here's "good" news for soldiers who'd like to spend time with their families: http://stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=50250 Attention chickenhawks naplast, nonunionj, cal0, ebris, dickablos, etc.: get over there and "support the troops." Also, here's Jim Hightower talking about the shameful treatment of our veterans by rightwingassholes on Veteran's Day: http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/node/1449 Edited November 15, 2007 by Pumpmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 (edited) why does it matter to you...you don't care for either group of these people...our troops or the people of Iraq...when are you going to tell us which branch of the military you served in? What does it matter??? If I did not serve are you telling me that I don't have the freedom to my opinion???? You guys keep it up and we will end up like one of these other countries in a revolution against you people and your freedoms. Another funny thing about you guys is that if a soldier speaks out against it you say he can't complain because he volunteered. On the other hand you say that if you were not in the military you cannot speak out. Are you saying that you either participate in this infant dictatorship or leave??? Edited November 15, 2007 by fmccap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 What does it matter??? If I did not serve are you telling me that I don't have the freedom to my opinion???? You guys keep it up and we will end up like one of these other countries in a revolution against you people and your freedoms. Another funny thing about you guys is that if a soldier speaks out against it you say he can't complain because he volunteered. On the other hand you say that if you were not in the military you cannot speak out. Are you saying that you either participate in this infant dictatorship or leave??? you must be feeling guilty...I've never made that comment about people that have not served.....you didn't so you feel guilty...I can read you like a cheap novel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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