knowledge is power Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I thought it would be good to have a source for Fellow Union Brothers & Sisters from different Locals to share what's going on at their plants and how they're being treated by management and the their Unions response. Please keep vulgarity out of any comments. Remember you represent your Local (like it or not). I work at the Sandusky Plant. Currently, we are still for sale or to be closed by the end of 2008. Our skilled trades have been cut to the bare bones! Preventative Maintenance in most of production is NON-existent, except on paper. Production & Skilled workers can be seemingly written up for any infraction. Punishment varies for offenses (same offenses different penalties). Management running rampant! Our supposed Old Local contract (International claims is automatically extended) has been shredded by Management! Our union representatives constantly pass the buck! If you file a grievance, Good Luck! Our Union Reps try to discourage this. They openly say "I can file a grievance for you, but they'll just laugh at it". Temporary full-time workers stay working, while full-time Ford employees are forced into Lay-offs. Labor Relations is no longer a mediator between floor supervision and hourly. They are continually on the floor looking for the smallest infractions to give time off to someone! They've become headhunters, trying to drive people out! Our Union sits by idly and lets this happen! International was confronted at our international contract ratification. We the Membership, DEMANDED a meeting with international and us, the membership. We were told O.K. this will happen. So far, Nothing! The atmosphere at our plant is one of constant stress, one of seemingly constant harassment and intimidation! I even feel sorry for the Full-time Temporary workers, they pay Union dues with no hint of a return, as they are constantly fearful of being fired or written up for a trivial thing, leading to firing! They work as though they were in a non-union sweatshop! Many of them will probably become anti-union, for they see no benefit from them paying Union dues. For the words written in the last issue of Solidarity by Mr. Gettelfinger doesn't apply to them or to anyone in our plant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy G Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I thought it would be good to have a source for Fellow Union Brothers & Sisters from different Locals to share what's going on at their plants and how they're being treated by management and the their Unions response. Please keep vulgarity out of any comments. Remember you represent your Local (like it or not). I work at the Sandusky Plant. Currently, we are still for sale or to be closed by the end of 2008. Our skilled trades have been cut to the bare bones! Preventative Maintenance in most of production is NON-existent, except on paper. Production & Skilled workers can be seemingly written up for any infraction. Punishment varies for offenses (same offenses different penalties). Management running rampant! Our supposed Old Local contract (International claims is automatically extended) has been shredded by Management! Our union representatives constantly pass the buck! If you file a grievance, Good Luck! Our Union Reps try to discourage this. They openly say "I can file a grievance for you, but they'll just laugh at it". Temporary full-time workers stay working, while full-time Ford employees are forced into Lay-offs. Labor Relations is no longer a mediator between floor supervision and hourly. They are continually on the floor looking for the smallest infractions to give time off to someone! They've become headhunters, trying to drive people out! Our Union sits by idly and lets this happen! International was confronted at our international contract ratification. We the Membership, DEMANDED a meeting with international and us, the membership. We were told O.K. this will happen. So far, Nothing! The atmosphere at our plant is one of constant stress, one of seemingly constant harassment and intimidation! I even feel sorry for the Full-time Temporary workers, they pay Union dues with no hint of a return, as they are constantly fearful of being fired or written up for a trivial thing, leading to firing! They work as though they were in a non-union sweatshop! Many of them will probably become anti-union, for they see no benefit from them paying Union dues. For the words written in the last issue of Solidarity by Mr. Gettelfinger doesn't apply to them or to anyone in our plant! I noticed an ad in the Register for temporary jobs at the plant. Take a look at the Sunday help wanted section of the Register. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy G Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 From the Register web site. Industrial ACH-LLC (VISTEON) Erie County Job Store Now Accepting Resumes for: TEMPORARY PRODUCTION POSITIONS SANDUSKY, OHIO PLANT Apply by RESUME ONLY Accepted at Your Job Store 1/23/2008 8:30 AM - 7:30 PM THRU 02/15/2008 5:00 PM Requirements: Must be at least 18 years old 12 Months Production Experience Required High School Diploma or GED If you do not have a resume, you are welcome to use the computers to type one, the staff cannot type the resume while you wait, due to our commitment to provide service to all our customers. Jan 27, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipefitter Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I thought it would be good to have a source for Fellow Union Brothers & Sisters from different Locals to share what's going on at their plants and how they're being treated by management and the their Unions response. Please keep vulgarity out of any comments. Remember you represent your Local (like it or not). I work at the Sandusky Plant. Currently, we are still for sale or to be closed by the end of 2008. Our skilled trades have been cut to the bare bones! Preventative Maintenance in most of production is NON-existent, except on paper. Production & Skilled workers can be seemingly written up for any infraction. Punishment varies for offenses (same offenses different penalties). Management running rampant! Our supposed Old Local contract (International claims is automatically extended) has been shredded by Management! Our union representatives constantly pass the buck! If you file a grievance, Good Luck! Our Union Reps try to discourage this. They openly say "I can file a grievance for you, but they'll just laugh at it". Temporary full-time workers stay working, while full-time Ford employees are forced into Lay-offs. Labor Relations is no longer a mediator between floor supervision and hourly. They are continually on the floor looking for the smallest infractions to give time off to someone! They've become headhunters, trying to drive people out! Our Union sits by idly and lets this happen! International was confronted at our international contract ratification. We the Membership, DEMANDED a meeting with international and us, the membership. We were told O.K. this will happen. So far, Nothing! The atmosphere at our plant is one of constant stress, one of seemingly constant harassment and intimidation! I even feel sorry for the Full-time Temporary workers, they pay Union dues with no hint of a return, as they are constantly fearful of being fired or written up for a trivial thing, leading to firing! They work as though they were in a non-union sweatshop! Many of them will probably become anti-union, for they see no benefit from them paying Union dues. For the words written in the last issue of Solidarity by Mr. Gettelfinger doesn't apply to them or to anyone in our plant! I'm offended! LOL Just jokin' You have explained most of the situation dead on. Just dont lable all Rep's as being the same. They are all each very different. There are things that go on, or get "let go" that may not be the fault of a particular Rep / Rep's. Some are fighting with one or both hands tied behind there back. Remember.... We are "ACH" Ford. Sotta like a "red headed step child" (no offence to any red heads here Just an old saying), or an outta work son in law.(hope that saying dosen't end up true!) If I can help in some way, feel free to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipefitter Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Your screen name kind of explains the situation.... Knowledge "is" Power.(very true) We have little to no knowledge of what is "actually going on". Thereforewe have little to no power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 At our plant (Monroe), the company is treating us better than the Union. The UAW better hope the RTW laws don't get passed in Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 At our plant (Monroe), the company is treating us better than the Union. The UAW better hope the RTW laws don't get passed in Michigan. The company will be your freind until they do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 The company will be your freind until they do! No sht....Pioneer is probably one of those members who drives a non ford product and bought the supervisor a christmas gift!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 No sht....Pioneer is probably one of those members who drives a non ford product and bought the supervisor a christmas gift!! I have two Ford products, and one non-Ford. All are UAW built. I didn't buy my supervisor a Christmas gift, but I chipped in for one. I work for a really good guy and he takes care of us, unlike our traitor of a building chairman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) I have two Ford products, and one non-Ford. All are UAW built. I didn't buy my supervisor a Christmas gift, but I chipped in for one. I work for a really good guy and he takes care of us, unlike our traitor of a building chairman. I knew it...you did buy your supervisor a christmas gift...wht a fk!! What does you chairman have to do with it?? Did you get him one too? What did your chairman do to not take care of you?? Don't you have a committee person who handle the floor stuff? If you worked at my plant and drove a non ford...it would be trashed the first day...especially if it was new!! Edited January 28, 2008 by Captain723 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 What does you chairman have to do with it?? Did you get him one too? We didn't have to get him a Christmas gift. Chuck Browning got him one, right after he sold everybody at our plant down the river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 We didn't have to get him a Christmas gift. Chuck Browning got him one, right after he sold everybody at our plant down the river. Who Chuck or Jodey??? I didn't realize anyone one person had that much power. Is this the same river Ford spent millions of dollars to clean up last year? :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 We didn't have to get him a Christmas gift. Chuck Browning got him one, right after he sold everybody at our plant down the river. Good point...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I do have to say I'm enjoying this, you guys are killing me! Carry on men! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I do have to say I'm enjoying this, you guys are killing me! Carry on men! Please tell me you never bought your supervisor a Christmas gift Furious!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) Please tell me you never bought your supervisor a Christmas gift Furious!!! F-ck NO He's a dumb sh-t who thinks monkeys are smarter than we are, If I got him one I bet he couldn't figure out how to unwrap it without enlisting the help of the general foreman. Hell by the time it was over the production manager, shift supervisor and three engineers would be envolved and they'd have to call Detroit for back-up! Edited January 28, 2008 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 F-ck He's a dumb sh-t who thinks monkeys are smarter than we are, If I got him one I bet he couldn't figure out how to unwrap it without enlisting the help of the general foreman. Hell by the time it was over the production manager, shift supervisor and three engineers would be envolved and they'd have to call Detroit for back-up! Ain't that the truth...they wouldn't get any help from the Detroit area. We have some engineers that are organized on the East Side that could help them though!! It will cost a little less and they will get it right the first time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster6969 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 We didn't have to get him a Christmas gift. Chuck Browning got him one, right after he sold everybody at our plant down the river. how did he sell our plant down the river???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 how did he sell our plant down the river???? Hey buster...are you normally a high OT plant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hey buster...are you normally a high OT plant? Hey buster...do your trades make 200k+ and prod 120K ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hey buster...do your trades make 200k+ and prod 120K ?? jinx!!! Don't you owe me a coke or something?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 jinx!!! Don't you owe me a coke or something?? Sure , bend over and inhale...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster6969 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) Hey buster...do your trades make 200k+ and prod 120K ?? trades- the most i seen was 170.000+. and thats just someone i know production- as much as you want. i know some that have knocked down 150,000 and that production. i myself have cleared the 120,000 a few times. Edited January 28, 2008 by buster6969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 trades- the most i seen was 170.000+. and thats just someone i knowproduction- as much as you want. i know some that have knocked down 150,000 and that production. i myself have cleared the 120,000 a few times. Hey Pioneer, maybe you should go back to production!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hey Pioneer, maybe you should go back to production!! Maybe he should. Outside of maybe power service no one pulled down 120k trades at SRP.............and certainly not prod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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