Critic Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 And I find it funny that say such things when you have a sig trashing Ford, I support their good moves (Flex, Edge, Fiesta, Mustang, Trucks, SUV's, etc.), and I don't support their foul-ups, I want them to build the best cars and trucks in their classes, period. And Ford has proven they are capable of doing so (Flex, F-150, Expedition, Mustang, new Fiesta, global Focus, Falcon, C-max, S-max, Edge). I want that kind of effort across the line. Not to stir anything here, but what do you consider to be Ford's foul-ups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Saw one today at a car show. The car is bigger than it looks (to me anyway) in the vids. it has a nice visual presence especially when its not on a rotating stand and you can touch the damn car. The tail lights look good on there. I dont care what people say, they work on it. I wasnt a big fan of them at first either, but after seeing it in person, they just work. I think it looks great. Were you able to sit inside or at least get a close look? If so, how did it look and how did the quality seem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I think it looks great. Were you able to sit inside or at least get a close look? If so, how did it look and how did the quality seem? I didnt get to sit inside as there were a few people around for their turn and i wanted to see the Flex in person. I did get a good peek inside and i liked it alot. It looked like it was a nice quality piece in there. The guages looked good, the seats looked good and the whole thing smelled nice. I heard the spokesman talking about a keyless start too i think? i guess its something similar to the Nissan system where you dont need the key to start it. I might have misheard him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I didnt get to sit inside as there were a few people around for their turn and i wanted to see the Flex in person. I did get a good peek inside and i liked it alot. It looked like it was a nice quality piece in there. The guages looked good, the seats looked good and the whole thing smelled nice. I heard the spokesman talking about a keyless start too i think? i guess its something similar to the Nissan system where you dont need the key to start it. I might have misheard him though. Sounds great. I hope it's a home run for Lincoln (and Ford). You likely heard right about the keyless start. Many companies feature it now. I love having it on our BMW, you get in, push the brake then the button and off you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 The MKS keyless start is integrated with the hidden B-pillar keypad. You can leave the keyfob in the vehicle, lock it with the keypad and the keyless start function is disabled until the vehicle is unlocked with the keypad. This means you can still leave the keys/fob in the vehicle without the danger of someone smashing a window and driving off. In the event of a low fob battery, there is a holder in the glovebox right next to the receiver. The fob also comes with a built-in manual backup key, preventing the need to carry a separate key. These are features that no other vehicle has at the moment (and won't since nobody else uses keypads) and yet another example of Ford technology leapfrogging the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donzuchowski Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) man look at those twin tail pipes! Those over head cams! That growl! Turns me on more then chipmonk fetish porn! Edited April 23, 2008 by donzuchowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 The MKS keyless start is integrated with the hidden B-pillar keypad. You can leave the keyfob in the vehicle, lock it with the keypad and the keyless start function is disabled until the vehicle is unlocked with the keypad. This means you can still leave the keys/fob in the vehicle without the danger of someone smashing a window and driving off. In the event of a low fob battery, there is a holder in the glovebox right next to the receiver. The fob also comes with a built-in manual backup key, preventing the need to carry a separate key. These are features that no other vehicle has at the moment (and won't since nobody else uses keypads) and yet another example of Ford technology leapfrogging the competition. Pretty slick! Ford completely read my mind (or saw my post on here -- unlikely lol) about that keypad design. With the recessed/backlit buttons, it looks fantastic!!! I always hated the tack-on keypad buttons used on earlier iterations of their keyless entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 (edited) The MKS keyless start is integrated with the hidden B-pillar keypad. You can leave the keyfob in the vehicle, lock it with the keypad and the keyless start function is disabled until the vehicle is unlocked with the keypad. This means you can still leave the keys/fob in the vehicle without the danger of someone smashing a window and driving off. In the event of a low fob battery, there is a holder in the glovebox right next to the receiver. The fob also comes with a built-in manual backup key, preventing the need to carry a separate key. These are features that no other vehicle has at the moment (and won't since nobody else uses keypads) and yet another example of Ford technology leapfrogging the competition. Wow, I'm glad to hear that the system works like that. That's one thing I don't like about our BMW....you can't leave the keys in it like you could with a Ford product with the keypad. Our key looks just like this, with a separate valet key that is pictured here (it fits into a slot in the key): One other thing I thought I'd mention about the our BMW's key.....besides the usual lock/unlock/trunk buttons, if you push the unlock button (up arrow) once, let go, then quickly push again and hold, it'll make the top go down by itself....you can be standing a few feet from the car and it'll do it.....the same process works for closing by pushing the lock button (the BMW emblem). Obviously the MKS won't feature this, being a sedan, but it's cool what they can do these days. Edited April 24, 2008 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Thats what I enjoy in my LS, is if you press down and keep it down, all windows and sunroof open (Global Down) they call it... Helps air the car out in the summer months. I just wish they had the same function for making them go up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Thats what I enjoy in my LS, is if you press down and keep it down, all windows and sunroof open (Global Down) they call it... Helps air the car out in the summer months. I just wish they had the same function for making them go up It does, but you have to use the key in the driver's door. At least that worked on the 00-02 models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Yes you can do it that way too, with the key in the door cylinder, but you can also do it using the keyfob. They added it for the 03+ models.. Just hold down the unlock button for 3-5 seconds and Voila! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbalek Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Yes you can do it that way too, with the key in the door cylinder, but you can also do it using the keyfob. They added it for the 03+ models.. Just hold down the unlock button for 3-5 seconds and Voila! One of my pet peaves for my G35. You can open all the windows using the unlock button on the remote, but it won't open the sunroof. To close, you can turn the key in the driver's door but it won't affect the sunroof. I wrote a complaint to Nissan about that in a survey! Glad to hear Lincoln included the sunroof! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 One of my pet peaves for my G35. You can open all the windows using the unlock button on the remote, but it won't open the sunroof. To close, you can turn the key in the driver's door but it won't affect the sunroof. I wrote a complaint to Nissan about that in a survey! Glad to hear Lincoln included the sunroof! Reminds me of a pet peeve on my Mazda. After you turn the car off, you still have 30 seconds or whatever to roll up the windows after you take the key out. The key needs to be in the accessory position to close the sunroof though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbalek Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Reminds me of a pet peeve on my Mazda. After you turn the car off, you still have 30 seconds or whatever to roll up the windows after you take the key out. The key needs to be in the accessory position to close the sunroof though. Oh wow, I think my G35 does allow you to close the windows and roof without the key for a minute or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Yes you can do it that way too, with the key in the door cylinder, but you can also do it using the keyfob. They added it for the 03+ models.. Just hold down the unlock button for 3-5 seconds and Voila! No, you misunderstood. The 00-02 had the global open feature by holding the unlock button. I was referring to global CLOSE. If you put the key in and hold it (to the right IIRC) then it will close all the windows (including the sunroof). Sounds just like the G35 feature except it includes the sunroof. I was told they couldn't do the global close unless all the windows and moonroof had pressure sensors to avoid pinching someone's body part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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