blazerdude20 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 http://www.leftlanenews.com/flex-quieter-t...itors-ford.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Nice to see that the stupidity of the internet isn't just limited to this place by the comments made there...:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 The internet does not make you smarter. It merely gives a wider audience to your ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
range Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 And the Edge is quieter than a Lexus. ======================================= The Ford Flex crossover, when it arrives at dealers later this summer, will be quieter inside than its competitors, a list that includes the Acura MDX, Toyota Highlander and GMC Acadia, Ford announced today. Prototypes of the car have been tested in a wind tunnel for over a year to eliminate wind noise at speed thanks to a 'search and destroy' process. Ford spent the time on the issue as it believes customers associate quiet interior with quality. Interior sound is measured on a new Ford Flex at Ford's wind tunnel. Here, 80-mile-per-hour winds are blown over the vehicle's silhouette as advanced sound equipment records the slightest noises from the vehicle's front and back seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 And the Edge is quieter than a Lexus. ======================================= The Ford Flex crossover, when it arrives at dealers later this summer, will be quieter inside than its competitors, a list that includes the Acura MDX, Toyota Highlander and GMC Acadia, Ford announced today. Prototypes of the car have been tested in a wind tunnel for over a year to eliminate wind noise at speed thanks to a 'search and destroy' process. Ford spent the time on the issue as it believes customers associate quiet interior with quality. Interior sound is measured on a new Ford Flex at Ford's wind tunnel. Here, 80-mile-per-hour winds are blown over the vehicle's silhouette as advanced sound equipment records the slightest noises from the vehicle's front and back seats Silver looks very good on the Flex IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 The '65 LTD was quieter than a Rolls-Royce. History repeats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Martin Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Measurements were made using the Aachen Head, a microphone equipped dummy, to help pinpoint the sources of noise. This isn't really relevant, but I always get excited when people talk about NVH stuff. As an acoustic engineer, I am confident that you can't use an Aachen head to pinpoint noise sources. I wonder how they really did it? Maybe they have some new technology that they can't talk about. The Aachen head was likely used to quantify the effectiveness of the improvements that were made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Maybe they have some new technology that they can't talk about. They put 200mph tape over all the seals and seams and them removed the strips one at a time...... High tech indeed.... (BTW, I'm not making fun of you) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) Nice to see that the stupidity of the internet isn't just limited to this place by the comments made there...:rolleyes: go to Autoblog and read the comments now I mean right NOW! It will BLOW YOUR MIND!! Edited May 15, 2008 by Ford-150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Silver looks very good on the Flex IMO. I agree....usually silver is just your ordinary, not very distinctive or great looking color, but I think it works on this design. The aluminum-effect plate on the rear liftgate won't stand out on LIMITED models like it would with another color though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 They put 200mph tape over all the seals and seams and them removed the strips one at a time...... is that anything like duct tape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Silver looks very good on the Flex IMO. It does look pretty good. Think you are going to see a lot of earth tone colors on this vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I have faith they'll do a good job quieting the inside, but on the last MDX I test drove, the engine sounded very loud when standing outside next to it. If anything a bit too loud for what it is. I noticed this because after one of my meetings, I have a friend who comes over to share some information and usually whispers it when I'm in my LS, it's never been an issue...but when I had the MDX, it just had to be a loud conversation till I get frustrated and turned the car off to be able to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Martin Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 They put 200mph tape over all the seals and seams and them removed the strips one at a time...... That's a creative solution. It's cost effective if you can make the assumption that the seals are the primary noise sources. is that anything like duct tape? Sort of. It's shinny, metalic tape that bonds very well. It's also a good acoustic insulator. In the aerospace industry we use 600 mph tape. It might be the same thing, but we have a different name for it since it is being used on the exterior of an aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 That's a creative solution. It's cost effective if you can make the assumption that the seals are the primary noise sources. Sort of. It's shinny, metalic tape that bonds very well. It's also a good acoustic insulator. In the aerospace industry we use 600 mph tape. It might be the same thing, but we have a different name for it since it is being used on the exterior of an aircraft. 200 mph tape is NASCAR slang for duct tape. Interestingly, the ONLY thing that DUCT tape is not recommended for is HVAC DUCTWORK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wescoent Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I expect most examples of the Flex to be sold extremely well equipped, in the 30-40k range. Therefore, since it's playing in a higher price range, it has to perform at a higher standard. The people buying the Flex probably have a BMW 328i sedan sitting in the driveway next to it, so when they take their turn to drive the Flex, it can't feel like a plasticky rattletrap. EcoBoost V6, 20" chrome rims, dark blue exterior with silver roof, and sport black leather seats... makes writing the check VERY easy for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang84isu Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 go to Autoblog and read the comments now I mean right NOW! It will BLOW YOUR MIND!! Probably a bunch of Toyota/Acura owners that can't handle the fact that a "lowly" Ford is quieter than what they drive. Clearly Ford's progress has a lot of people scared, especially those that have long trashed on American vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Ford Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) go to Autoblog and read the comments now I mean right NOW! It will BLOW YOUR MIND!! Soon they'll have to suffer at the sight of thousands of "ugly" Flexes on the road and eventually even those idiots will wise up and find some other company to direct their stupid quality and profit related jabs at, although I don't expect the "for the price [when I get my license] I'd rather drive some exotic sports car I'll never be able to afford" comments to stop. Edited May 15, 2008 by V8 Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Soon they'll have to suffer at the sight of thousands of "ugly" Flexes on the road and eventually even those idiots will wise up and find some other company to direct their stupid quality and profit related jabs at. Chrysler, party of one. Your table is ready!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 That's a creative solution. It's cost effective if you can make the assumption that the seals are the primary noise sources. I think that if their baseline (with all seals & seams covered) was too high, they would look at other areas as well. The baseline with seals & seams covered must've been low enough for them to consider it effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Sort of. It's shinny, metalic tape that bonds very well. It's also a good acoustic insulator. In the aerospace industry we use 600 mph tape. It might be the same thing, but we have a different name for it since it is being used on the exterior of an aircraft. Is it the stuff that hast that extra piece of paper-ish stuff that you have to peel off the tape to use it? If so, I've used some of that before....not in a wind tunnel testing seals, but I've used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I expect most examples of the Flex to be sold extremely well equipped, in the 30-40k range. Therefore, since it's playing in a higher price range, it has to perform at a higher standard. The people buying the Flex probably have a BMW 328i sedan sitting in the driveway next to it, so when they take their turn to drive the Flex, it can't feel like a plasticky rattletrap. EcoBoost V6, 20" chrome rims, dark blue exterior with silver roof, and sport black leather seats... makes writing the check VERY easy for me. I believe 19's are the biggest wheels that will be available at launch. Of course, you mentioned the EB 3.5, which will be out a year later, so maybe you've found out that 20s will be available next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Chrysler, party of one. Your table is ready!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Martin Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Is it the stuff that hast that extra piece of paper-ish stuff that you have to peel off the tape to use it? If so, I've used some of that before....not in a wind tunnel testing seals, but I've used it. Yeah, it has a thin, plastic backing that is transparent blue in color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Yeah, it has a thin, plastic backing that is transparent blue in color. Oh, the stuff I'm thinking of had a white plastic backing....it may be the same stuff, but now with blue backing. Or it could be completely different stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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