Sub Pay Info.

[Bigcountry]

[anike7]

No sooner than 3 weeks? When did this start? At my previous plant, you always got your sub the week after unemployment.

[Bigcountry]

No sooner than 3 weeks? When did this start? At my previous plant, you always got your sub the week after unemployment.

 

 

Yeah, me too! But like all the locals say........"WELCOME TO DEARDORN"!

[jerseyshore]

Never saw or heard this on A crew body shop, but why would we. This is great news, guess we'll start having to eat our pets.

[objectsinmirror]

Here's somethig else you guys should know...I think on the second unemployment check, (about 4 weeks in) it will instruct you on the stubb that you MUST visit a michigan works office...if you don't go before your following check, it will throw your unemployment check AND SUB check in a whirlwind...and delay BOTH! Go online and find a Michigan Works office near you. You go in, they sit you down in front of a computer for 10 minutes, and your out....

[pbp9298]

No sooner than 3 weeks? When did this start? At my previous plant, you always got your sub the week after unemployment.

This is crazy! The union is just letting the company do what they want. Next thing you know the unemployment checks are going to be on a delay! We are right here with the FORD HEADQUARTERS and still being crapped on. But why do salaried care any way. They are working regardless of downtime and there money isn't affected. Its like my mother always told me,"WORK AND SAVE YOUR MONEY BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU MIGHT NEED TO PINCH OFF IT"

[MTP'er]

You can't tell me they don't know who's working and who's not. There should be no break what so ever at getting us something every week. If your laid off for 2 weeks the first week off you get your last worked check and the second week you should get a SUB check the third week back to work and file for unemployment & get a SUB check and unemplyment check so atleast your getting something every week. Why is SUB pay linked to unemployment??? Stupid !!!

[DTP Body Door Hang]

Meh that's fine. First person that doesn't get their money is Ford Credit.

What's the worst that can happen? They repo an my Expedition! go ahead I can't sell it or afford to put gas in it. :happy feet:

So when they call I'll be sure to tell them as soon as they pay their bills on time, I will be sure to pay mine as well. :reading:

[lquidspine]

Meh that's fine. First person that doesn't get their money is Ford Credit.

What's the worst that can happen? They repo an my Expedition! go ahead I can't sell it or afford to put gas in it. :happy feet:

So when they call I'll be sure to tell them as soon as they pay their bills on time, I will be sure to pay mine as well. :reading:

Best Post Ever on these boards!!!!

[PFA]

Your unemployment check is sent out on your third week off. You call in according to your last 2 SS#, day and time. You call an automated number and answer it's questions. It's called Marvin. This is what you do when on a TLO for any amount of time. After the initial call in, you do that every two weeks, same time and day as previous. As for Subpay, I am thinking that it is triggered by your call in to Unempl... Not sure about that though, just seems like that when it was sent out.

[Ronniemom]

SO GLAD I AM OUT OF THERE! :happy feet:

[macattack]

 

no $$$..........not many people can work without eating and no $$$ means no food on the table......what a crock!.........hopefully it won't happen particularly with the coming weeks of lay-off that are scheduled in june and probably on through the year. putting the employees in this kind of position is just wrong.......are you listening UAW? time to get off your ass and correct this....if true.

Edited May 24, 2008 by macattack

[mrballsonya]

Your unemployment check is sent out on your third week off. You call in according to your last 2 SS#, day and time. You call an automated number and answer it's questions. It's called Marvin. This is what you do when on a TLO for any amount of time. After the initial call in, you do that every two weeks, same time and day as previous. As for Subpay, I am thinking that it is triggered by your call in to Unempl... Not sure about that though, just seems like that when it was sent out.

 

Yeah... What PFA and Objectsinmirror said. Follow that protocol and you'll get your money. If you deviate from the protocol, everything will get screwed up. No one likes the process, but it's much better than starving. Good luck Brother. -_-

[chelsea]

Here is a hunch. When our anniversary date to come up here came around, They waited until a new month came around to pay us using the same excuse that there was a system glitch. Now, I ran into a labor rep in the hall way (not looking for him) so I asked him what is the deal with Sub pay. Again he gave me the excuse that a system glitch with the Memorial holiday has caused delay(yea right!). He also stated that it would be next week which so happens to be a new month and around the first. (strange?) So this has led me to believe that they are still using our money to pay for the benefit they owe (interest).

[Hotlanta]

no $$$..........not many people can work without eating and no $$$ means no food on the table......what a crock!.........hopefully it won't happen particularly with the coming weeks of lay-off that are scheduled in june and probably on through the year. putting the employees in this kind of position is just wrong.......are you listening UAW? time to get off your ass and correct this....if true.

 

This is exactly the reason so many people detest unions and their members.

 

You're receiving up to 90% of your pay for sitting at home, but yet you are STILL complaining because you may have to wait 3 or 4 weeks to get your subpay check???? Unbelievable. Do you not realize that there are people out there who would sell their soul for a job like that?????

 

If you can't survive for 3 weeks without a paycheck working for FMC, then something is horribly wrong. Most employees know that when you work in the auto industry, that it is 'risky', at best. It has always been stressed to the workers to make sure and put money up for a rainy day, because sooner or later, a rainy day is going to come along in this line of work.

 

Instead of whining about the cruelty of waiting 3 whole weeks for a check, maybe you should thank your lucky stars that you have the luxury of sitting on your butt and receiving practically full pay for it. At least you are GETTING a check for doing nothing - 97% of people aren't so lucky.

 

You better wake up and start saving some of that money, because it could be YOUR plant that closes next. The economy is not getting better anytime soon, and FMC will do what they have to do in order to stay in business and make a profit.

[Critic]

This is exactly the reason so many people detest unions and their members.

 

You're receiving up to 90% of your pay for sitting at home, but yet you are STILL complaining because you may have to wait 3 or 4 weeks to get your subpay check???? Unbelievable. Do you not realize that there are people out there who would sell their soul for a job like that?????

 

If you can't survive for 3 weeks without a paycheck working for FMC, then something is horribly wrong. Most employees know that when you work in the auto industry, that it is 'risky', at best. It has always been stressed to the workers to make sure and put money up for a rainy day, because sooner or later, a rainy day is going to come along in this line of work.

 

Instead of whining about the cruelty of waiting 3 whole weeks for a check, maybe you should thank your lucky stars that you have the luxury of sitting on your butt and receiving practically full pay for it. At least you are GETTING a check for doing nothing - 97% of people aren't so lucky.

 

You better wake up and start saving some of that money, because it could be YOUR plant that closes next. The economy is not getting better anytime soon, and FMC will do what they have to do in order to stay in business and make a profit.

+1

[Bigcountry]

Here is a hunch. When our anniversary date to come up here came around, They waited until a new month came around to pay us using the same excuse that there was a system glitch. Now, I ran into a labor rep in the hall way (not looking for him) so I asked him what is the deal with Sub pay. Again he gave me the excuse that a system glitch with the Memorial holiday has caused delay(yea right!). He also stated that it would be next week which so happens to be a new month and around the first. (strange?) So this has led me to believe that they are still using our money to pay for the benefit they owe (interest).

 

 

Dude, you don't have to yell!

[Bigcountry]

SO GLAD I AM OUT OF THERE! :happy feet:

 

 

What? Your missin' all the fun!

[gunnut69]

This is exactly the reason so many people detest unions and their members.

 

You're receiving up to 90% of your pay for sitting at home, but yet you are STILL complaining because you may have to wait 3 or 4 weeks to get your subpay check???? Unbelievable. Do you not realize that there are people out there who would sell their soul for a job like that?????

 

If you can't survive for 3 weeks without a paycheck working for FMC, then something is horribly wrong. Most employees know that when you work in the auto industry, that it is 'risky', at best. It has always been stressed to the workers to make sure and put money up for a rainy day, because sooner or later, a rainy day is going to come along in this line of work.

 

Instead of whining about the cruelty of waiting 3 whole weeks for a check, maybe you should thank your lucky stars that you have the luxury of sitting on your butt and receiving practically full pay for it. At least you are GETTING a check for doing nothing - 97% of people aren't so lucky.

 

You better wake up and start saving some of that money, because it could be YOUR plant that closes next. The economy is not getting better anytime soon, and FMC will do what they have to do in order to stay in business and make a profit.

 

exactly.if you are gonna miss meals cuz of 3 weeks without sub pay,the sub pay isnt the problem.i can see how people who have let themselves get in that boat took jobs in the auto industry thinking hard times would never come.foolish.

[chelsea]

Dude, you don't have to yell!

Dude I wasn't yelling I just can't see anymore. LOL

[Bigcountry]

Dude I wasn't yelling I just can't see anymore. LOL

 

[lquidspine]

exactly.if you are gonna miss meals cuz of 3 weeks without sub pay,the sub pay isnt the problem.i can see how people who have let themselves get in that boat took jobs in the auto industry thinking hard times would never come.foolish.

I agree with this post however we are contracted workers and while 3 weeks shouldnt make or break someone, DTP over the last few years is getting a bad rep for screwing people outa money.

 

Every since C- crew has started they seem to think of every way possible to delay or just simply not pay people, hell some that came from Norfolk still have not been paid fully from our downweek from last June.

 

Those people followed Labor's directions for unemployment and almost a year later have still not been paid fully shorted almost 400 dollars.

 

Yeah we are lucky to have a job still blah blah blah ive heard it from everyone ,but it comes down to once again we are contracted employees that THE COMPANY AGREED to pay a percentage of a normal work week in the event of downtime , if they did not want to then Ford simply should not have negotiated a new contract this last year plain and simple .

[macattack]

I agree with this post however we are contracted workers and while 3 weeks shouldnt make or break someone, DTP over the last few years is getting a bad rep for screwing people outa money.

 

Every since C- crew has started they seem to think of every way possible to delay or just simply not pay people, hell some that came from Norfolk still have not been paid fully from our downweek from last June.

 

Those people followed Labor's directions for unemployment and almost a year later have still not been paid fully shorted almost 400 dollars.

 

Yeah we are lucky to have a job still blah blah blah ive heard it from everyone ,but it comes down to once again we are contracted employees that THE COMPANY AGREED to pay a percentage of a normal work week in the event of downtime , if they did not want to then Ford simply should not have negotiated a new contract this last year plain and simple .

you are correct.

[gunnut69]

I agree with this post however we are contracted workers and while 3 weeks shouldnt make or break someone, DTP over the last few years is getting a bad rep for screwing people outa money.

 

Every since C- crew has started they seem to think of every way possible to delay or just simply not pay people, hell some that came from Norfolk still have not been paid fully from our downweek from last June.

 

Those people followed Labor's directions for unemployment and almost a year later have still not been paid fully shorted almost 400 dollars.

 

Yeah we are lucky to have a job still blah blah blah ive heard it from everyone ,but it comes down to once again we are contracted employees that THE COMPANY AGREED to pay a percentage of a normal work week in the event of downtime , if they did not want to then Ford simply should not have negotiated a new contract this last year plain and simple .

yeah,everyone has different circumstances,and all that. i wish nothing but the best for all of us.ive had my own problems with unemployment as well which was a bitch.some of this stuff doesnt belong on a public forum because for whatever reason non-ford people do read this.........i still dont understand that,but whatever,and im not the board police by any means.

 

my point is this really: before i worked for ford i owned a home,ate three meals a day,and well the liquor i drank was cheaper and my cars were a few years older,but i got around. i dont understand all the gloom and doom. it is the auto industry.im sure we all were told at orientation,if people didnt know already, that it is a volatile proposition to work in this industry. all this talk about recession and depression. one person was talking about soup lines and stuff. this baffles me. these same people get in their cars and drive to burger king whenever they want,i betcha. we are nowhere even near depression and hopefully we wont be,ever again .given the fact that noone seems to remember the oil crisis in the 1970s im sure none of us remember the REAL depression.

 

it will take a while probably but we will bounce back.this has all happened before.when you absolutely cant put gas in your car,buses arent running,and you cant afford a gallon of milk,and are thinking of jumping a train to the west coast because you heard there may be a job out there ,then we may be in a depression. when you take your sub check(when you finally get it) to the bank and all the banks are closed,we are in a depression.lets try and keep all this in perspective.

 

this post isnt directed at any one person. we all do need to try and stick together and present our best face to the public. we have excellent products but are facing factors beyond our control. history shows that this will be a temporary,though painful,set of circumstances to overcome.

[Fatso]

Ford must show a profit by 2009 in order to satisfy terms of its loan agreement back when the company was mortgaged.It has recently said that Ford will not be able to do that because of high gas prices.I wonder if this means bankruptcy protection for Ford and how safe are Ford`s pensioners?