J-150 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 just read it on Autoweek. He's moving on to non-Auto designing. Translate "he's going to Ikea" The article didn't indicate one way or the other if this was Bangles decision or BMWs decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I've got nothing against the later Bangle designs. The current 3- and 5-series look fantastic even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Only the 3-series for me. IMO, the 5-series has problems that are indicative of problems in design in general: lots of fusssy details, no coherent overall theme. It's a beef I've got with architecture, interior design, graphic design, etc.--not just vehicle design. When I was in architecture, I called it design by sample board. It's why I like the Flex, Edge, and Mustang so much--they're unitary designs. The individual parts are subject to the whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 We only had a little bit of snow in the UK and their was BMW's conked out, being towed, crashed smashed up allover the place around the area whee l live. BMW has very much a reputation of a yuppiemobile - pimpmobile - hairdressers car in the UK is it the same Stateside just interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 BMW has very much a reputation of a yuppiemobile - pimpmobile - hairdressers car in the UK is it the same Stateside just interested? Would agree on the yuppiemobile aspect of it here. Would also say they are considered the luxury brand for people who actually enjoy driving instead of considering it a chore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 We only had a little bit of snow in the UK and their was BMW's conked out, being towed, crashed smashed up allover the place around the area whee l live. BMW has very much a reputation of a yuppiemobile - pimpmobile - hairdressers car in the UK is it the same Stateside just interested? yuppiemobile, yes. Pimps still like the Escalade and hairdressers drive Priuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) I've got nothing against the later Bangle designs. The current 3- and 5-series look fantastic even. Personally, I like the 3 and 5. I also like the 6 and 7. I'm iffy on the 1-series, as well as the new X5 (I can't decide if the new design language works well for it). The new Z4 appears to have fixed what I didn't like about the current model (mainly the trunk lid). I was surprised when I read he had left/is leaving the company. Edited February 4, 2009 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Personally, I like the 3 and 5. I also like the 6 and 7. I like 1, 3, 5, 6....7 is kinda ewwww. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I like 1, 3, 5, 6....7 is kinda ewwww. I dunno, there's something about the 7 that I like. This one: I'll have to wait until I see the new one before I decide if I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I like the 3, 5, 6, and 7s Loathe the X and 1 Series. Warming up to the Z4 after seeing its redesign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 For some reason, I see the 7 as looking dated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) Of course, then there's the 455i, M7, and M8: The 455i I drew myself and the M7 and M8 I chopped. Those are some of my early chops, so with the M8, it's not very good....quite obviously based on the M6, but I included the M6 pictures so you could see that it's longer than the 6 is, as well as the other updates (head/taillights, etc). Edited February 4, 2009 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 For some reason, I see the 7 as looking dated. That's why the new one just came out (posted above). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 That's why the new one just came out (posted above). Its better, but its still not my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Its better, but its still not my favorite. Any thoughts on the pictures/chops I posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Any thoughts on the pictures/chops I posted? I think the coupe might be kinda bad for night driving :P. Nice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I think the coupe might be kinda bad for night driving :P. Nice though. The M8? Why because of the lights? They could be LEDs, even though it doesn't look like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WC-MAN Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Thank God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 The M8? Why because of the lights? They could be LEDs, even though it doesn't look like it. They could be I suppose...Its something I'd have to get used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Any thoughts on the pictures/chops I posted? http://www.cptoys.com/cgi-bin/cptoys_cgi.s...amp;utm_term=CP Buy a bunch of plasticine and some modeling tools and make some 1/18 or 1/24 scale models of your designs. If you don't want to buy the modeling tools, use a table knife. Photochops and sketches only go so far in 'working out' how a 3D object is going to look. 455 looks nice, though. If you want to be a designer, start working with clay. If you want to be one of those goobs that cooks up 'artists conceptions' of cars, based on spy shots and so forth, stick with PhotoShop. Looking at that..... I'd go get some clay. You'll know if you want to be a car designer in a matter of minutes, once you start modeling. Once the clay warms up, that is. Plasticine's a bear when it's room temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97svtgoin05gt Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) BMW makes a good product and as a former owner, I can tell you their dealership service is second to none. Ford could learn a trick or two from them in this area. The downfall of the BMW experience is out of warranty service. You need deep pockets to keep them running, but this is no different from a Benz, an Audi or other similar German car. Edited February 5, 2009 by 97svtgoin05gt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 BMW makes a good product and as a former owner, I can tell you their dealership service is second to none. Ford could learn a trick or two from them in this area. The downfall of the BMW experience is out of warranty service. You need deep pockets to keep them running, but this is no different from a Benz, an Audi or other similar German car. The out of warranty expenses are why so many people lease BMWs instead of buying them. My bro, the BMW tech, rattled off the prices for certain parts out of warranty a few times. It's absurd. As for the dealership experience, certainly Ford could go a long ways toward improving, but I think it's unrealistic to expect them to meet the level of service provided by a luxury vehicle dealership. Lincoln-Mercury is already near the tops in most dealer surveys though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 BMW makes a good product and as a former owner, I can tell you their dealership service is second to none. Ford could learn a trick or two from them in this area. The downfall of the BMW experience is out of warranty service. You need deep pockets to keep them running, but this is no different from a Benz, an Audi or other similar German car. if Ford sold cars at the same price as BMW, they would be the same quality and performace. If Ford charged as much for servicing the car as BMW, same thing, you would have no less than a rub&tug from the dealer principal himself while waiting for your oil change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97svtgoin05gt Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I totally understand that a dealership where the least expensive car is $13,000 vrs one where the least is $30,000 will probably never be on a level playing field, there is still much room for improvement in most of the Ford dealer service network. It really all boils down to training and professionalism. BTW, I don't think Bangle leaving BMW is a bad thing, get Bangle out before he mangles something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 BMW makes a good product and as a former owner, I can tell you their dealership service is second to none. Ford could learn a trick or two from them in this area. The downfall of the BMW experience is out of warranty service. You need deep pockets to keep them running, but this is no different from a Benz, an Audi or other similar German car. ........oh yeah....$160 for an oil change FOR A MINI!........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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