Die Wahrheit Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I think you're referring to HR1900 Social Security Amendments of 1983, and you're right what they (Reagan, Bush I Clinton and Bush II) was wrong. But please remember that this bill came out of the House of Rep., which at the time the dems held a 67 to 33% advantage. So they are not wothout blame. And Ronald Reagan is the best President of our time. So now its okay to blame congress and not the President. Bullshit, It was reagan who screwed up social security. The best President of maybe your time but not mine. This guy was a bad actor and an even worse President. You can try and give this guy credit if you want but like I said he should of been impeached... You are right Dems are with blame because they didnt throw this bum out on his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Do as I say, not as I do my dumb SHEEP.Obama 2004: Bush Rushed Legislation Through Congress Without Allowing Time to Read Or Debate and congress didnt read it why? because they are too busy not doing there job. This is what we pay them for to read and they dont have time to do this. JUST DO YOUR DAMN JOB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 What exactly did Cheney do for Goldman Sachs??? Where is the evidence that they made gas prices go up???? The big 3 running there companies into the ground had nothing to do with it??? aNOTHER DEFENDER OF THE UNION HATERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE...I'm not going to explain to you what the people who are not republicans have done to us...read please and then comment i WILL COMMENT THIS IS OLD NEWS BANKS HAVE ALWAYS CONTROLLED AND RAN THIS COUNTRY, IF THIS IS NEW TO YOU THEN YOU ARE BLIND MY FRIEND. BIG MONEY BUSINESSESS AND THESE BANKS HAVE BEEN BANKROLLING THESE POLITICIANS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. WHY DO YOU THINK NO HEALTH CARE BILL CAN BE PASSED, THE INDUSTRY GOT THESE POLITICIANS IN THERE POCKETS. jUST THE OTHER DAY THE NRA THREATENED REPUBLICANS BY TELLING THEM NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA SURPREME COURT PICK OR THEY WOULD CUT OFF THEIR FUNDING. FORGET THAT THE WOMAN IS WELL QUALIFIED. THIS TYPE OF SHIT HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOREVER. NOW YOU TELL ME WHO THESE POLITICIANS WORK FOR AND WHOSE BEST INTEREST THEY HAVE. THEY ALL ARE HYPOCRITES AND CAN ALL ROT IN HELL FOR THEIR GREED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Lawson Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 So now its okay to blame congress and not the President. Bullshit, It was reagan who screwed up social security. The best President of maybe your time but not mine. This guy was a bad actor and an even worse President. You can try and give this guy credit if you want but like I said he should of been impeached... You are right Dems are with blame because they didnt throw this bum out on his head. Nice try, that bill came out of a democrat congress led by Tip O'Neil. Maybe you don't totally understand how our government functions. All spending comes in the form of a bill, a spending bill if you will. As stated before the dems held a sizable majority so they knew what they were doing. I know this is difficult for you since you have tried your best to paint this totally as a Reagan deal. However, the very next year, 1984, Reagan went on the carry 49 of 50 states in the election plus the Repub. picked up 16 additional seats in the House so obviously people were pleased with what he was doing. Your problem is that you know just enough to make you look stupid, and you probably got these few talking points from the union hall. You obviously haven't done much research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 i WILL COMMENT THIS IS OLD NEWS BANKS HAVE ALWAYS CONTROLLED AND RAN THIS COUNTRY, IF THIS IS NEW TO YOU THEN YOU ARE BLIND MY FRIEND. BIG MONEY BUSINESSESS AND THESE BANKS HAVE BEEN BANKROLLING THESE POLITICIANS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. WHY DO YOU THINK NO HEALTH CARE BILL CAN BE PASSED, THE INDUSTRY GOT THESE POLITICIANS IN THERE POCKETS. jUST THE OTHER DAY THE NRA THREATENED REPUBLICANS BY TELLING THEM NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA SURPREME COURT PICK OR THEY WOULD CUT OFF THEIR FUNDING. FORGET THAT THE WOMAN IS WELL QUALIFIED. THIS TYPE OF SHIT HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOREVER. NOW YOU TELL ME WHO THESE POLITICIANS WORK FOR AND WHOSE BEST INTEREST THEY HAVE. THEY ALL ARE HYPOCRITES AND CAN ALL ROT IN HELL FOR THEIR GREED. little do you know about history.... it was till the early 1900's that banks gained this power, with wilson, but i dont expect you to be intelligent. but here is what he said after creating the federal reserve. way to go I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. ~ Woodrow Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 little do you know about history.... it was till the early 1900's that banks gained this power, with wilson, but i dont expect you to be intelligent. but here is what he said after creating the federal reserve. way to go I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. ~ Woodrow Wilson 1900 its 2009 thats 109 years thats about as long as i can remember like i said these banks have ben running this country for a long time. Reagan should have been impeached like i said. Fucking dickhead selling weapons. This guy said fuck the constitution. This clown was bout as bad as GW in lying about the war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Nice try, that bill came out of a democrat congress led by Tip O'Neil. Maybe you don't totally understand how our government functions. All spending comes in the form of a bill, a spending bill if you will. As stated before the dems held a sizable majority so they knew what they were doing. I know this is difficult for you since you have tried your best to paint this totally as a Reagan deal. However, the very next year, 1984, Reagan went on the carry 49 of 50 states in the election plus the Repub. picked up 16 additional seats in the House so obviously people were pleased with what he was doing. Your problem is that you know just enough to make you look stupid, and you probably got these few talking points from the union hall. You obviously haven't done much research. Reagan should have been impeached. selling weapons to our enemies. This guy should have been tried and convicted. The worst criminal act since watergate. NIXON< REAGAN< BUSH damn these guys know how to really fuck their country. need i say more. The worst crimes ever committed against this great nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longball Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 This is like discussing politics with a teenaged person....do your parents know your on their computer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longball Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Die I don't like to call people out like this but I must say you are nothing more then a phony baloney democratic party sucker...It's because of people like you that we have such a polarized political environment. If you would admit to yourself that the party you endorse is also corrupt and evil....we could actually "change " things. As long as people support blindly because their daddy told them the other guys are bad...we get what we have. BOTH SIDES SUCK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 1900 its 2009 thats 109 years thats about as long as i can remember like i said these banks have ben running this country for a long time. Reagan should have been impeached like i said. Fucking dickhead selling weapons. This guy said fuck the constitution. This clown was bout as bad as GW in lying about the war again, i said early 1900's not 1900. just because the banks run this country, does that make it acceptable to you ? be a real patriot, and know what is going on, dont be a lazy dude that watches CNN all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Lawson Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Reagan should have been impeached. selling weapons to our enemies. This guy should have been tried and convicted. The worst criminal act since watergate. NIXON< REAGAN< BUSH damn these guys know how to really fuck their country. need i say more. The worst crimes ever committed against this great nation. I noticed you dodged the SS comment again. You're the one who bought that into the post, but when someone presents you with the facts, you changed the subject. Very convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 aNOTHER DEFENDER OF THE UNION HATERS I'm not defending. I just asked a question since he made the false statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 So now its okay to blame congress and not the President. Bullshit, It was reagan who screwed up social security. The best President of maybe your time but not mine. This guy was a bad actor and an even worse President. You can try and give this guy credit if you want but like I said he should of been impeached... You are right Dems are with blame because they didnt throw this bum out on his head. Congress has to pass bills, they don't pass it this never happens. Before you redirect and say I'm defending this I'll let you know I'm not. If they are not going to keep all the money in the fund for what it was designed for then we should end it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deflep1 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 floyd, dark271 & longball.....AMEN! Die thinks he who shouts loudest wins, never mind that his facts are wrong and misguided! I've said it many times and will say it again... If both sides are busy yelling at each other, (they are being distracted by the politicians) then we aren't yelling at the govenment! Both parties are corrupt, dishonest and only in it for themselves. Be an American first, not a DEM or REP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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