A million protest against 'Obama the socialist'

[Deanh]

As Chris Rock once opined though, "Parties with metal detectors. Sure you feel safe inside, but the brother waiting for you outside knows you ain't got a gun." :lol:

...oh, and i only have a Sister.....LOL!

[NickF1011]

...oh, and i only have a Sister.....LOL!

 

Way to keep things light. People are far too serious these days.

[Versa-Tech]

truely sorry to hear that...truth be told, I sense anything not quite right i just plain leave, I fought for years, but avoid fighting unless I have no choice...call me phobic, but I see a knife or a gun, I'm gone...and NO-ONE I socialize with carries either, and I must admit I have NEVER been in a public place and witnessed anyone carrying any weapons...then again thats why we have metal detectors at public events...after all, if no-one has guns, no-one gets shot, if no-one has knives, no-one gets stabbed.....

Good point. Unfortunately, by the time you see the weapon, it's usually too late. But violent people use anything around them to damage. I think glass containers should be banned at public gatherings as well. If a guy is carrying a holster, you know what it's for. But if a guy is carrying a bottle... it's not so easy to identify a threat. In any case, I think people's words are the single most effective cause for violence. If people could learn to shut the **** up, most violence could be avoided. Societies glorification of violence doesn't help much either.

[NickF1011]

I think glass containers should be banned at public gatherings as well.

 

Most sporting events and concerts now sell only plastic or aluminum containers. I am seeing them more often in bars and clubs also. Not a bad thing I guess, except beer tastes so much better in a glass bottle. :yup:

[Versa-Tech]

Most sporting events and concerts now sell only plastic or aluminum containers. I am seeing them more often in bars and clubs also. Not a bad thing I guess, except beer tastes so much better in a glass bottle. :yup:

Agreed. But out of the keg... does it really matter?

[NickF1011]

Agreed. But out of the keg... does it really matter?

 

In that case, not so much. Red Solo cup FTW!

 

[Deanh]

Way to keep things light. People are far too serious these days.

she can be MEAN man....real MEAN...hahahaha!

[Deanh]

Good point. Unfortunately, by the time you see the weapon, it's usually too late. But violent people use anything around them to damage. I think glass containers should be banned at public gatherings as well. If a guy is carrying a holster, you know what it's for. But if a guy is carrying a bottle... it's not so easy to identify a threat. In any case, I think people's words are the single most effective cause for violence. If people could learn to shut the **** up, most violence could be avoided. Societies glorification of violence doesn't help much either.

unfortunately to some all one has to do is add alcohol....now THATS a situation i have been in....some people just get nasty...usually a good time to leave if one can...

[Deanh]

Way to keep things light. People are far too serious these days.

true....although with the state of the economy and other issues, a LOT of people are extremely tightly wound and are triggered a lot easier than they would be otherwise....

[Versa-Tech]

true....although with the state of the economy and other issues, a LOT of people are extremely tightly wound and are triggered a lot easier than they would be otherwise....

I'm definitely one of them. I need to check myself...

[NickF1011]

true....although with the state of the economy and other issues, a LOT of people are extremely tightly wound and are triggered a lot easier than they would be otherwise....

 

All the more reason to get out and have a good time! :party:

[Deanh]

All the more reason to get out and have a good time! :party:

CHEERS big Ears! my thoughts exactly...times may be tough but life is GOOOD! ( hell maybe I'm just in a permanent state of denial...LOL! )

[Len_A]

Len, whats up?....and agreed, I would rather just up and leave....some i know that feel the need to have guns make me bloody edgy from the get go...same with some that carry the crocodile Dundee knives 24/7...is it an insecurity thing? I rightfully dont know...but I'd rather not participate....if for some reason one feels the need / desire to utilize said weapons only bad things happen...not exactly my cup of tea...then again I'm from the old Markus of Queensbury

Nothin' new around here. SS, DD.

 

I'm not anti-gun, but guns in the hands of people who, because of the event they're at, be it a political rally or a sporting even, have their emotions running high, make me uncomfortable. There are legitimate reasons people carry a weapon, but I'd much rather not have them out in the open.

 

I have been in two separate instances, in public, where I had to watch someone die because no one was there to protect them. I have also been in situations where violence was avoided because a responsible citizen drew a firearm. Would you rather be nervous or dead? I know 2 people who denied the former, and received the latter. 'Nuff said.

Sorry to hear you had to witness any dieing as a result of the violent act of another. And I am not as uncomfortable with someone responsibly carrying a concealed weapon, although I'd much rather not be around guns period. Too many stupid and hot headed people around. That said, with the number of criminals around, there are times I want to have a gun myself.

 

I'm far more uncomfortable around the person who carries their weapon out in the open, especially at a political rally or protest. Whatever point they're trying to make, as far as I'm concerned they're asking for trouble. Frankly, I also don't care what point they're making. The fact they think it's acceptable to "punctuate" that point with an open carry of a weapon, loaded or not, is unacceptable to me.

[Versa-Tech]

Sorry to hear you had to witness any dieing as a result of the violent act of another. And I am not as uncomfortable with someone responsibly carrying a concealed weapon, although I'd much rather not be around guns period. Too many stupid and hot headed people around. That said, with the number of criminals around, there are times I want to have a gun myself.

 

I'm far more uncomfortable around the person who carries their weapon out in the open, especially at a political rally or protest. Whatever point they're trying to make, as far as I'm concerned they're asking for trouble. Frankly, I also don't care what point they're making. The fact they think it's acceptable to "punctuate" that point with an open carry of a weapon, loaded or not, is unacceptable to me.

I agree. It's tasteless and irresponsible to flaunt a firearm while attending political rallies. Wearing an NRA cap should be enough.

[Len_A]

I agree. It's tasteless and irresponsible to flaunt a firearm while attending political rallies. Wearing an NRA cap should be enough.

It (wearing an NRA cap) makes the point without resorting to blatant intimidation. It's an amount of bravado on that persons part that borders on stupidity, and delegitimizes whatever point they're trying to make.

[Versa-Tech]

It (wearing an NRA cap) makes the point without resorting to blatant intimidation. It's an amount of bravado on that persons part that borders on stupidity, and delegitimizes whatever point they're trying to make.

Makes the rest of us look bad as well.

[mustang84isu]

I agree. It's tasteless and irresponsible to flaunt a firearm while attending political rallies. Wearing an NRA cap should be enough.

+1

 

I'm all for gun rights, but there are much better, more constructive ways to address one's elected officials instead toting around a firearm and a public event.

[No_Fear]

Yeah, great picture. 1.8 million vs. 60,000

 

Most of the protesters were confined to the Capitol grounds and marched down Pennsylvania Ave, while this is taken halfway down the National Mall where the majority of the activity missed. Why don't they instead take a shot from the Capitol grounds where there was probably plenty of garbage piled up?

 

This is what 1.8 million people looks like. Pennsylvania Avenue is off to the right, and the pictures were taken halfway toward the Washington Monument.

 

Here is a link to a panoramic view of the 9/12 protest. If you click on the lower right margin of the picture a button will appear which should allow you to enlarge the picture.

 

http://www.freedomworks.org/files/capitol view lo res.jpg

 

Below is a link to an interesting assessment of the number of people at the inauguration of President Obama, the Million Man March and the 9/12 Protest. (Someone on this thread referred to this assessment previously.) It is prepared by Zack Moilanen-Indiana University. Hopefully, you will find it interesting.

 

http://southfloridateaparty.org/wp-content...ac-Moilanen.pdf

[No_Fear]

Here is a link to a panoramic view of the 9/12 protest. If you click on the lower right margin of the picture a button will appear which should allow you to enlarge the picture.

 

http://www.freedomworks.org/files/capitol view lo res.jpg

 

Below is a link to an interesting assessment of the number of people at the inauguration of President Obama, the Million Man March and the 9/12 Protest. (Someone on this thread referred to this assessment previously.) It is prepared by Zack Moilanen-Indiana University. Hopefully, you will find it interesting.

 

http://southfloridateaparty.org/wp-content...ac-Moilanen.pdf

 

I apologize if the link to the panoramic picture in my previous post does not work for you. It worked for me earlier.....not sure what the problem is. The 2nd link should be okay.

[fmccap]

+1

 

I'm all for gun rights, but there are much better, more constructive ways to address one's elected officials instead toting around a firearm and a public event.

Maybe this person always carries his weapon. This is just the left making something out of nothing.

[Deanh]

Maybe this person always carries his weapon. This is just the left making something out of nothing.

perhaps not, otherwise why would one advertise such a fact with a huge placcard???????????

[fmccap]

perhaps not, otherwise why would one advertise such a fact with a huge placcard???????????

Neither of us know, the only thing we know is that where he was it's legal so end of story.

[Deanh]

Neither of us know, the only thing we know is that where he was it's legal so end of story.

I know...how crazy it THAT...still, it doesnt sit right with me, legal or not....

[mustang84isu]

Here is a link to a panoramic view of the 9/12 protest. If you click on the lower right margin of the picture a button will appear which should allow you to enlarge the picture.

 

http://www.freedomworks.org/files/capitol view lo res.jpg

 

Below is a link to an interesting assessment of the number of people at the inauguration of President Obama, the Million Man March and the 9/12 Protest. (Someone on this thread referred to this assessment previously.) It is prepared by Zack Moilanen-Indiana University. Hopefully, you will find it interesting.

 

http://southfloridateaparty.org/wp-content...ac-Moilanen.pdf

http://www.freedomworks.org/files/capitol%...%20lo%20res.jpg

 

A decent study, but I don't think he is being entirely truthful.The PDF claims 1.78 million for 9/12, but just looking at the two pictures it's not even close. It also uses photos of Obama's innaguration that were not taken at peak attendence. As far as we can see, the National Mall is packed all the way through, while the 9/12 crowds start dissipating shortly after the pond. And if you look at photos below, the west half of the National Mall was also packed back toward the Lincoln Memorial.

 

Also, he makes a point about Obama's innaguration where people were neatly stacked in rows versus the protestors jamming in there. If anything, I would think there would have been greater density at the innaguration since people were neatly organized and had little in the way of signs or backpacks.

 

More Obama innaguration photos

 

Zoomed in on the thick crowds toward the east half of the National Mall

 

It appears that there was a barrier preventing the protestors from accessing the Capitol steps, while this area would have been full during the inaguration

 

 

Back beyond the Washington Monument at the far end of the Mall facing the Lincoln Memorial, and once again packed with people

Edited September 24, 2009 by mustang84isu

[fmccap]

So go ahead, shout down and dismiss every viewpoint but your own, ignore the warning signs, provoke any one that disagrees with you in your arrogance, but be ready to pay the price. Civil unrest turns to civil disobedience and then to civil war. Is that what the left wants?

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