Die Wahrheit Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I thanl Ford for picking the ball back up, and no one else. Now I would like to thank Obama for bringing back Bush memories. NCTC director Michael Leiter remained on ski slopes after Christmas Day airline bombing attempt Go ahead and read on and see it's the same guy from 2007. Please Die explain the "change"? For the record these appointees were appointed by none other than yours truly G.W. Bush. I agreee Obama should have cleaned house when he arrived I guess he just hasnt had the time yet. So once again do your own research before you open your pie hole Bubba! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 For the record these appointees were appointed by none other than yours truly G.W. Bush. I agreee Obama should have cleaned house when he arrived I guess he just hasnt had the time yet. So once again do your own research before you open your pie hole Bubba! Go back and look, I told you it was Bushs pick. So where is the change? If you can use your own words please enlighten me to some of his real change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Go back and look, I told you it was Bushs pick. So where is the change? If you can use your own words please enlighten me to some of his real change. I just told you you cant come into office in 11 months in the middle of the worst recession in history and just fully clean house. It just cant be done and its going to take some time. Bush left a HUGE MESS and its going to take more than 11 months to clean up 8 years....Have patience my son.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I just told you you cant come into office in 11 months in the middle of the worst recession in history and just fully clean house. It just cant be done and its going to take some time. Bush left a HUGE MESS and its going to take more than 11 months to clean up 8 years....Have patience my son.. What about the real change? Speak for yourself if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 What about the real change? Speak for yourself if you can. Have you been reading my post? The recession is over! stock market showing positive gains! Thats change i can believe in.. YES WE CAN! YES WE DID!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Have you been reading my post? The recession is over! stock market showing positive gains! Thats change i can believe in.. YES WE CAN! YES WE DID!! That's funny. So tell me how Obama makes the stock market move up? You will soon see that it's not a recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpc655 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 That's funny. So tell me how Obama makes the stock market move up? You will soon see that it's not a recovery. It's a lost cause with this one cap. The obamadrones like die will defend anything and everything he does, regardless of the merits. Just let it alone. some people need to crash before they can see beyond their own narrow universe...some never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lquidspine Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Have you been reading my post? The recession is over! stock market showing positive gains! Thats change i can believe in.. YES WE CAN! YES WE DID!! Just because you say the recession is over does not mean it is Die. The recession is not over so far we have had one increase quarterly GDP (3rd quarter) unless you know for a fact that we had an increase in the 4th quarter technically we are still in a recession. Facts I am sure you will ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Just because you say the recession is over does not mean it is Die.The recession is not over so far we have had one increase quarterly GDP (3rd quarter) unless you know for a fact that we had an increase in the 4th quarter technically we are still in a recession. Facts I am sure you will ignore. Technically you are wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession a recession is now often defined simply as a period when GDP falls (negative real economic growth) for at least two quarters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 That's funny. So tell me how Obama makes the stock market move up? You will soon see that it's not a recovery. Obama made stocks rise the same way Hannity blamed him day in and day out that it was his fault that americans was losing their money when stocks were slipping. So if Hannity says its Obama fault when stocks falls then it must Be Obama also to blame for stocks prices rising....You Agree with your buddy Hannity correct? Its funny how I never hear you or Hannity giving the President credit FOR rising stock prices, but you tried and convicted him and blamed him when the prices were falling ONCE AGAIN STIFFNECKED HYPOCRITES............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Just because you say the recession is over does not mean it is Die.The recession is not over so far we have had one increase quarterly GDP (3rd quarter) unless you know for a fact that we had an increase in the 4th quarter technically we are still in a recession. Facts I am sure you will ignore. MORE proof that our education system has failed us.. please dig a little deeper into your research. Your facts here are wrong. I cant reply to falsehood. Technically you are wrong.... I no you can do better if you apply yourself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Technically you are wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession a recession is now often defined simply as a period when GDP falls (negative real economic growth) for at least two quarters. A HA! WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!! Finally a person after my own heart.... Thank you, its so nice to no that some of us in this forum really understands and are not just tape recorders for the right wing teabaggers express!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBodette68 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 A HA! WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!! Finally a person after my own heart.... Thank you, its so nice to no that some of us in this forum really understands and are not just tape recorders for the right wing teabaggers express!!! You Silly Basterd... if you weren't so stupid you could almost be funny.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lquidspine Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) Technically you are wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession a recession is now often defined simply as a period when GDP falls (negative real economic growth) for at least two quarters. Have we had two quarters of GDP gains ? re·ces·sion 1 (rĭ-sěsh'ən) n. 1. The act of withdrawing or going back. 2. An extended decline in general business activity, typically two consecutive quarters of falling real gross national product. Real Source, not from some site that anyone with an account can update. The 3rd quarter was the only quarter that had a 2.2 gain in GDP , Do not go with job growth because you will lose that battle as well. So my position stands , unless there is a rise in GDP for the fourth quarter the recession is still on. Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and propertylocated in the United States -- increased at an annual rate of 2.2 percent in the third quarter of 2009, (that is, from the second quarter to the third quarter), according to the "third" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the second quarter, real GDP decreased 0.7 percent. I am sorry again if I do not rely on your information that can be updated by almost anyone I will stick with the *facts*. Maybe I will be proven wrong, the 4th quarter did have the holiday season included so we may see another quarterly gain. But to claim we are out of the recession yet is premature. Calm down Die I am sure we will see another GDP dip in the 1st quarter of the new year when that report comes out, besides Die has been claiming the recession has been over since the second quarter of 2009. Edited January 8, 2010 by lquidspine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Just because you say the recession is over does not mean it is Die.The recession is not over so far we have had one increase quarterly GDP (3rd quarter) unless you know for a fact that we had an increase in the 4th quarter technically we are still in a recession. Facts I am sure you will ignore. Technically you are wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession a recession is now often defined simply as a period when GDP falls (negative real economic growth) for at least two quarters. Have we had two quarters of GDP gains ? Uh .....you don't need two quarters of gains to end a recession.... technically. You only need two declining quarters to signal the start of one. While I agree that the recovery is shaky, without two quarters of decline the recession is over. http://recession.org/definition A recovery is: http://www.investorwords.com/4098/recovery.html A period in a business cycle following a recession, during which the GDP rises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lquidspine Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) Uh .....you don't need two quarters of gains to end a recession.... technically. You only need two declining quarters to signal the start of one. While I agree that the recovery is shaky, without two quarters of decline the recession is over. http://recession.org/definition A recovery is: http://www.investorwords.com/4098/recovery.html A period in a business cycle following a recession, during which the GDP rises. I will concede this one Aces, technically you are correct. I should have been more specific that This recession is not over yet. Here are a few good reads for ya http://www.wisebread.com/the-end-of-a-rece...versus-recovery Edited January 8, 2010 by lquidspine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I will concede this one Aces, technically you are correct. I should have been more specific that This recession is not over yet. Here are a few good reads for ya http://www.wisebread.com/the-end-of-a-rece...versus-recovery Good article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Obama made stocks rise the same way Hannity blamed him day in and day out that it was his fault that americans was losing their money when stocks were slipping. So if Hannity says its Obama fault when stocks falls then it must Be Obama also to blame for stocks prices rising....You Agree with your buddy Hannity correct? Its funny how I never hear you or Hannity giving the President credit FOR rising stock prices, but you tried and convicted him and blamed him when the prices were falling ONCE AGAIN STIFFNECKED HYPOCRITES............ So you think that the stock market gains is a sign if a strong economy?...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 So you think that the stock market gains is a sign if a strong economy?...... Its an indicator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Uh .....you don't need two quarters of gains to end a recession.... technically. You only need two declining quarters to signal the start of one. While I agree that the recovery is shaky, without two quarters of decline the recession is over. http://recession.org/definition A recovery is: http://www.investorwords.com/4098/recovery.html A period in a business cycle following a recession, during which the GDP rises. Liquid is a loss cause he still doesnt get it. The recession is over, let him continue to cling on with theat negative attitude that all right wingers have.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 You Silly Basterd... if you weren't so stupid you could almost be funny.. "When the truth is heard, there will be gnashing of the teeth". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Its an indicator How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Technically you are wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession a recession is now often defined simply as a period when GDP falls (negative real economic growth) for at least two quarters. From the same folks..... "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is." –Bill Clinton, during his 1998 grand jury testimony on the Monica Lewinsky affair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) Its an indicator From a guy on the other side. I'd worry more about employment trends at this time. The number of unemployed and particularly the number of workers who have given up is getting serious. Many look to the stock market to indications of an improving economy, and it often is a leading indicator since profits are usually rising, however there are things I see coming that will hurt profitability in 2010. Edited January 9, 2010 by fmccap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Its an indicator Look at the fundamentals though. Pumps On Full StocksGiven the fundamental stories out there, including the precipitous drops in state sales tax revenues, unemployment, plunging government income tax receipts and the like, the fundamental view would be that stocks should be mired near their recent lows. But that is simply not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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