Vash Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ford has issued a public statement on the paint situation: Ford spokesman Todd Nissen confirmed the auto maker sent the note Thursday as a precautionary measure concerning metallic paints. "There is a pigment, called xirallic, that is running low in supply," Mr. Nissen said. "While we can fill current orders we have asked dealers not to take new orders for certain types of paints." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704604704576221063826457774.html?ru=yahoo&mod=yahoo_hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKSteel Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ford has issued a public statement on the paint situation: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704604704576221063826457774.html?ru=yahoo&mod=yahoo_hs My paint wasn't mentioned in the article, but I am sure that Sterling Grey Metallic uses the same pigment. Hopefully Ford finds another supplier for this paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Based on the Parts Shortage Thread in the Ford Employee Section here, it appears that new suppliers are already coming online, but it probably takes time for those suppliers to ramp up their production if necessary and deliver the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJFX4 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 So does that mean the trucks currently being produced in tuxedo black will not be affected but anything after will? Mine is currently in production so I am curious to know if it will be set back....if so that really suuuuucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 So does that mean the trucks currently being produced in tuxedo black will not be affected but anything after will? Mine is currently in production so I am curious to know if it will be set back....if so that really suuuuucks! The article says current orders are ok but they don't want any new orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Based on different sources of information, I'm not quite sure what all this means. I know for sure that vehicles that have already been given a VIN and scheduled for production will NOT be affected and if you haven't yet placed your order for a vehicle in an affected color then you won't be able to until the ban on those vehicle orders it lifted by Ford. That's not to say some dealers will try to lie and state that they placed the order when they really only entered it into the system without submitting it or set it to a status that indicates not to build. What I am unsure about is whether all current orders will be processed on schedule if they do NOT have a VIN. That is because in the email sent to dealers it was stated that Ford put a hold on scheduling any vehicles with affected colors until further notice. My 2011 Raptor was ordered 28 FEB 2011, but I have not been given a VIN and I don't know if that will be delayed due to this supply issue. I'll just have to wait and see unless more information is released. I did submit an inquiry to my dealer this AM. I'll update this thread if I find anything else or maybe someone with more inside information will post up here or in the Parts Shortage thread in the Ford Employee Section. Edited March 25, 2011 by Vash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 More info that I found over at FordRaptorForum.com To: All Ford and Lincoln Dealers Subject: EFC00184DC UPDATE - Supply Chain - Balance Out Paints Background The devastating situation in Japan has resulted in a supply chain issue that will disrupt the supply of pigments for some of our vehicle paints. We understand this will affect other automotive manufacturers and other industries as well. The purpose of this communication is to provide the scheduling timing of early balance out paints and a summary of actions planned to manage through this mid-year change. Additional paint colors may be affected in the coming weeks - this communication addresses near term issues only. Updates will be provided to the dealers via normal communication channels (e.g. Weekly Commodity Letter and Order Scheduling Notes from Field Scheduler and EDCs). Vehicle Production Impact We do not expect to have any production losses as a result of this situation. Vehicle Scheduling Impact Below is a recap of early balance-out paint timing: ** Retail Scheduling will continue until paint is exhausted Other Actions To Be Taken Spec Changes to scheduled F150 stock orders at Dearborn with Tuxedo Black paint ~500 F150 stock orders will be changed from Tuxedo Black to Silver (details and timing will be provided soon) Additional scheduled orders may need to be spec changed at a future date based on actual paint availability as each plant balances out paints CONCEPS will not prohibit dealers from entering an order containing these Balanced Out paints – but will be updated to contain an informational "Balance Out" message for all impacted paints. 2011 MY Order Guides for most vehicles will remain the same. 2012 MY Order Guides will be updated to include any new paints added in the future. A team has been put together to identify which consumer facing materials (brochures, websites, advertisements, etc.) need to be updated. Dealer Actions Required Ensure all sales personnel are informed of the changes and work with their customers to manage expectations as they would during any Balance-Out situation. This is a very fluid situation and is subject to change at any time. We will provide additional details as soon as they are available. It is important to remember that we still have a significant number of vehicles in dealer stock and in the system available for sale to retail customers. Copyright 2011 Ford Motor Company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strokinbeast Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I just barely squeeed by my truck was built this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruger345 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Ordered my 2011 Raptor on Feb. 24th, so hopefully that will be included in the current orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruger345 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 By the way the Raptor I ordered is a supercrew which is Tuxedo black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruger345 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 The way it sounded to me is that all of the orders placed before the cut off date will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davinci4915 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) When was the " official" cut off date? I read 3/24. Does that sound right with you folks. I ordered an X in Tuxedo Black the week prior and am sweating it out.. hoping my order made the cut. Edited March 26, 2011 by davinci4915 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedog Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I have an "unscheduled" order (black Raptor) dating back to earlier February. My biggest concern is that the paint situation gets worse and a color change is mandatory. In my case, a have a Leer cap already ordered. I need to decide whether to cancel the Leer order (if possible) until the paint situation become more clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Racing Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I am glad my truck has a build date of 3/30/2011 Candy red metallic. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedog Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Sharp color - Enjoy! It's not available on the Raptor. Likely have gone that route otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedog Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Details on the cause of the shortage: "Problem is that Xirallic is produced at only one factory in the world — the Onahama plant near the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear power station in Japan. Phyllis Carter. Onahama is located about 130 miles northeast of Tokyo and about 35 miles south of the stricken Fukashjima reactor. The Japanese government has told residents within about 20 miles of the reactor to evacuate. Merck KGaA, sole producer of a paint pigment for automakers such as Ford Motor Co. (F), cannot operate its Japanese factory because it is too close to the nuclear reactor crippled by the earthquake and tsunami. Merck’s Onahama factory, which produces the metallic paint pigment Xirallic, will take four to eight weeks to restart once company engineers can gain access to the facility, Gangolf Schrimpf, a company spokesman, said.".... Until they get that Nuke plant stable, availability of this pigment is going to be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 Details on the cause of the shortage: "Problem is that Xirallic is produced at only one factory in the world — the Onahama plant near the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear power station in Japan. Phyllis Carter. Onahama is located about 130 miles northeast of Tokyo and about 35 miles south of the stricken Fukashjima reactor. The Japanese government has told residents within about 20 miles of the reactor to evacuate. Merck KGaA, sole producer of a paint pigment for automakers such as Ford Motor Co. (F), cannot operate its Japanese factory because it is too close to the nuclear reactor crippled by the earthquake and tsunami. Merck's Onahama factory, which produces the metallic paint pigment Xirallic, will take four to eight weeks to restart once company engineers can gain access to the facility, Gangolf Schrimpf, a company spokesman, said.".... Until they get that Nuke plant stable, availability of this pigment is going to be an issue. Thanks for the info. Any updates on this are greatly appreciated. Do you have a source link or where did this info come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedog Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Thanks for the info. Any updates on this are greatly appreciated. Do you have a source link or where did this info come from? Attached is a link to a similar article in the Wall Street Journal. I'll post any additional information I find. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703696704576222990521120106.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 Thanks for the link. Everyone keep the updates coming. I'll post any new information I find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedog Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the link. Everyone keep the updates coming. I'll post any new information I find. Link to a short article that came up today. Most important note last paragragh regarding existing orders. http://www.industryweek.com/articles/ford_to_idle_belgian_assembly_plant_next_week_24256.aspx Edited March 29, 2011 by Bluedog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 That article give some hope. My order has been in for a month. I figured I'd get screwed because it hadn't been pulled yet, but the article makes it sound like I've still got a shot. Not counting on anything until I get a VIN and even then dates are subject to change. I think I'm past the venting stage and now just taking a wait and see approach. Sorry if that sounds like a nuclear reactor. No pun intended. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedog Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 That article give some hope. My order has been in for a month. I figured I'd get screwed because it hadn't been pulled yet, but the article makes it sound like I've still got a shot. Not counting on anything until I get a VIN and even then dates are subject to change. I think I'm past the venting stage and now just taking a wait and see approach. Sorry if that sounds like a nuclear reactor. No pun intended. Lol. I'm in the same boat, but with an order closer to two months. In past due to dealer allocation. The dealer still expects it to be build (black), but probable a few weeks later than if I changed the color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 Forgot to say that I hate it when they use non-absolute terms like "a little longer". Who knows what that means to Ford? Could be a week longer or it could push the average wait for a Raptor from 11 weeks to 16 or 18. Who knows. Just have to wait and see though. Hopefully Ford is pretty transparent with this issue as much as practical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 First projected timeframe I've seen regarding getting the German owned Japanese plant up and running again: Company spokeswoman Phyllis Carter said production won't resume for four to eight weeks, depending on the availability of infrastructure and utilities. http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/Damage_To_Japanese_Paint_Plant_Will_Limit_Vehicle-Color_Choices_118788309.html?ref=309 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeguy Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) I am one of the lucky ones who just had a truck built, this past weekend, with one of the affected colors (Candy Red) I had a horrible thought on the way to work today that I hope to never have to worry about. What happens down the road if someone with one of these colors has an accident and the production hasn't come back? Do they keep enough in inventory to supply the after-market auto body industry? Edited March 30, 2011 by lakeguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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