ANTAUS Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) Ford’s EcoBoost F-150 also boasts better power numbers at 365 hp and 420 lb.-ft. (569 Nm) of torque, compared with the Silverado’s 315 hp and 335 lb.-ft. (454 Nm) of torque. The EcoBoost maximum torque arrives earlier, at 2,500 rpm, compared with 4,400 rpm on the Silverado, and it trumps the GM V-8 in payload and towing. “(Ford has) done a good job of marketing the EcoBoost, and that’s a challenge on our side to make sure that consumers understand you can get similar mpg out of a V-8 Silverado without sacrifice,” Perry says. Yes, indeed, that *will* be a challenge. Edited September 6, 2011 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmalonehunter Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Yes, indeed, that *will* be a challenge. What sacrifice exactly is he referring to?? :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 What sacrifice exactly is he referring to?? :shades: Back hair 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 He's probably thinking just like everyone else that downgrading from a V8 to V6 is a "sacrifice". I think the needs to get Lutz's input. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 What sacrifice exactly is he referring to?? :shades: Might be this...."The EcoBoost F-150 with 2WD starts at $28,185, while the Silverado 2WD is priced at $23,975." :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 a couple of things I found of interest in this article - A new, fuel-saving 8-speed RWD transmission comes from GM in 2011, as well, and would be expected in the truck portfolio. I must have missed this info before. I know Chrysler has one, but I didn't know GM had one in the works. [Ford] promises better fuel economy on ’12 models. This was in reference to the F150. What do they have in store. Have they been sandbagging mpg numbers or is there something new coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Might be this...."The EcoBoost F-150 with 2WD starts at $28,185, while the Silverado 2WD is priced at $23,975." :reading: Bit of an unfair comparison, being you can't get the EB in stripper models like you can get the V8 in the Silverado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Might be this...."The EcoBoost F-150 with 2WD starts at $28,185, while the Silverado 2WD is priced at $23,975." :reading: boy is THAT twisted....which engine, which body configuration and which model.....the eco engine powerwise at least compares with GM's big boy, NOT the 5.3, in that case its Fords 5.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 This was in reference to the F150. What do they have in store. Have they been sandbagging mpg numbers or is there something new coming? I thought we heard that Ford was also developing 8 speed trannys...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I thought we heard that Ford was also developing 8 speed trannys...... yes they are.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Sour grapes much?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Sour grapes much?? my thoughts exactly..WAHHHHH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 He's just doing his job, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 GM has bigger immediate problems with their aging Silverado, a growing inventory means slowing production and offering incentives. One problem flows from another yet GM doesn't seem to be able to make the connection... Not having an Ecoboost competitor is the least of their problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTwannabe Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 yes they are.... I don't trust GM to build a 4-speed tranny, let alone 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I don't trust GM to build a 4-speed tranny, let alone 8. GM actually makes relatively good trannys. BMW buys them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Sure would be nice to see a 3.5 EB Mustang with an 8-speed; with the right ratios for EB characteristics, it should be exciting. Ford was early with 6-speed units, too bad it seems that they are going to be a little late to the party with 8-speed units. Is there any word as to when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Sure would be nice to see a 3.5 EB Mustang with an 8-speed; with the right ratios for EB characteristics, it should be exciting. Ford was early with 6-speed units, too bad it seems that they are going to be a little late to the party with 8-speed units. Is there any word as to when? "Late" is all relative. Will they be first to offer them? No. Will they be last? Not even close. Ford will use them where they make sense. There comes a point where you get diminishing returns from added gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) GM Chief Markerter Unfazed by Ecoboost Reality Fixed that headline for you, Ward's. Edited September 6, 2011 by PREMiERdrum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Oval Guide Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 The torque and towing capacity on the 3.5L EB are impressive when compared to the larger 5.3L V8 from GM. It would be interesting to see how many people are trading in their GM or Dodge for the F150 EB. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 If GM is indeed unfazed by the Ecoboost, why do they have something very comparable under development? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 If GM is indeed unfazed by the Ecoboost, why do they have something very comparable under development? Because the diesel Cruze is going to be a runaway success story if it ever gets here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 If GM is indeed unfazed by the Ecoboost, why do they have something very comparable under development? Just answered your own question ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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