uawfactoryrat Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 There is absolutely no incentive to put us back on. They even say in the so called highlight book "When mechanical trades are implemented" Don't we get to vote on this first? The last time they wanted us to drink the kool aid in Mods of 2009 they wanted us to accept mechanical trades and work teams. In return they going to pay trades in production trades wages. At least this gives the company an incentive to put us back on or retrain us.Where is that this time...no where!!! in the past 4 years the union and the company let about 5 tradesmen at the rouge site become PSO's, but they were from there. Wow that's really making me feel confident that in the next four years they are going to retrain another four trades on out of hundreds laid off. As long as chairs want to get re-elected they are going to keep us out and keeps folks happy at election time.. What happened to trades pay in production???? This is one way of forcing the company to retrain or put us back on. VOTE NO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lackanookey Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 There is absolutely no incentive to put us back on. They even say in the so called highlight book "When mechanical trades are implemented" Don't we get to vote on this first? The last time they wanted us to drink the kool aid in Mods of 2009 they wanted us to accept mechanical trades and work teams. In return they going to pay trades in production trades wages. At least this gives the company an incentive to put us back on or retrain us.Where is that this time...no where!!! in the past 4 years the union and the company let about 5 tradesmen at the rouge site become PSO's, but they were from there. Wow that's really making me feel confident that in the next four years they are going to retrain another four trades on out of hundreds laid off. As long as chairs want to get re-elected they are going to keep us out and keeps folks happy at election time.. What happened to trades pay in production???? This is one way of forcing the company to retrain or put us back on. VOTE NO Trades people.....it is not longer 1982! If you do not like the contract, then take your trade to another company!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Trades people.....it is not longer 1982! If you do not like the contract, then take your trade to another company!! Your lucky it's not 1982. Back then a production worker was paid 2/3rds what a trades-person made. That would put you at about $22 an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uawfactoryrat Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 Trades people.....it is not longer 1982! If you do not like the contract, then take your trade to another company!! So when are you going to quit? Why don't you take your non -skilled talents over to Walmart. What does 1982 have to do with us getting screwed. I'll remember your stupid comment when you are being forced to take a $5.00 pay cut to be "competitive", pay 20% towards VEBA, $50.00 doctor visits, 3 hours towards Union dues, ect ect. And Ill be there to tell you to quit and take your G.E.D. to Walmart!! You ignorant poster, you don't get it unless it affects you. It is affecting you right now and your hating on trades because why? Its not me vs production , its " WE as in UAW HOURLY WORKERS " are are being screwed, but jealous company men like you wont see it until its too late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uawfactoryrat Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) There is absolutely no incentive to put us back on. They even say in the so called highlight book "When mechanical trades are implemented" Don't we get to vote on this first? The last time they wanted us to drink the kool aid in Mods of 2009 they wanted us to accept mechanical trades and work teams. In return they going to pay trades in production trades wages. At least this gives the company an incentive to put us back on or retrain us.Where is that this time...no where!!! in the past 4 years the union and the company let about 5 tradesmen at the rouge site become PSO's, but they were from there. Wow that's really making me feel confident that in the next four years they are going to retrain another four trades on out of hundreds laid off. As long as chairs want to get re-elected they are going to keep us out and keeps folks happy at election time.. What happened to trades pay in production???? This is one way of forcing the company to retrain or put us back on. VOTE NO Check out page 447, all underlined words means that this was added. That states that mechanical teams go from a pilot program to "launch program!! NO THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Page 374....ya they have allowed like 5 people to become pso's at Dearborn out of hundreds laid of. All of this in four years, ya thanks.Boy did you guys put the old nose to the grind stone and help 5 out of 200. THANKS FOR THE EFFORT!!!! Edited October 5, 2011 by uawfactoryrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Trades people.....it is not longer 1982! If you do not like the contract, then take your trade to another company!! Try taking your "Trim Stock To Car" to WalMart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Trades people.....it is not longer 1982! If you do not like the contract, then take your trade to another company!! Hey salaried phuck..how about take your undeserved salried retension bonuses and get lost....there is no company looking for worthless salaried phucks who ran a company in the dirt! crawl back under Alans desk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Your lucky it's not 1982. Back then a production worker was paid 2/3rds what a trades-person made. That would put you at about $22 an hour. Whats up pioneer, where did you land?? working my ass off. Have you seen white pages?? Think it is pretty good, but site was down or my guess over loaded. Doesn't sound like we lost anything, but didn't get everthing back. I didn't have expectations we would. Nice to see a little money back in the pockets though. Do think there will be a big take on $50k or 100K? I heard in SE michigan there was something in the water that created many miracle and people were coming back to work by the 100's. Nice to see...wonder how long they will be back for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyzrx Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 after reading for hours in the PDF format link of the contract. I can NOT support this contract offer. I'm skilled working on the line. I'm glad to be working but, I see nothing in THIS CONTRACT to benifit layed off trades! I understand everyone has differant views on the contract offer and will vote with they're needs in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymaker Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Trades people.....it is not longer 1982! If you do not like the contract, then take your trade to another company!! Now thats a union brother. must drive a kia! thanks a lot!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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