Sherminator98 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Wow I'm kinda shocked at the responses here...I actually like this better then older model...its much more "smoother" then the out going design. To me it does a better job of looking like the MKR concept then the original car that had a rush job to fit the spilt grill on it. As for the MKT...well a new grill wouldn't save that thing it needs the whole 1/4 rear of the car needs to be redone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) I don't like what they did with the grille. Regardless, here's all the images provided by Ford Media over at YouJoint: 2013 Lincoln MKS Gallery Edited November 17, 2011 by Intrepidatious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 The more I look at the MKS at it from this site... the more I like it... or maybe it is the less that I dislike it. Funny observation.... Ford is removing many of the buttons from the Center Console, but adding them to the steering wheel. The steering wheel is starting to look like a Instrument Panel from a aircraft. How many buttons and switches are to many? Yeah, a buttonless center-console is funny with so many buttons everywhere else, but it's a start since the touch panel is essentially a non-critical redundancy anyway. Interesting that the MKS has even done away with the 'nubs' found on the MKX version. I really respect Ford's decision to move this ever so slightly to the next design extreme. I'm a huge fan of the center stack in my MKX, especially the volume slider. If it wasn't for those design details I probably wouldn't care about owning a Lincoln over the Ford. Naturally, Caddy has followed Lincoln (but I've seen NOBODY acknowledge that yet in any CUE article), but I think Lincoln has done it much better (I'm talking about the hardware, not software). It's amazing how the XTS and MKS share many of the exact same features and innovations and are debuting at the same time...there is allot of that going on this year at the LA show (Escape vs CRV is another one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 http://www.autoblog..../#photo-4616097 Welcome to 1995. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Lincoln's in trouble if the MkZ isn't a homerun. Lincoln is in trouble if the MK looks like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddysystem Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 The previous version seemed more aggressive, this one is more softened, almost 1995 continental like. Just call this the Lincoln Continental and it will sell really well in Ft Lauderdate and appease the Cadillac STS, DTS crowd that won't like the XTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) The previous version seemed more aggressive, this one is more softened, almost 1995 continental like. Just call this the Lincoln Continental and it will sell really well in Ft Lauderdate and appease the Cadillac STS, DTS crowd that won't like the XTS. And I think that's my biggest concern with Lincoln design, is it's softness which seems to be progressing to a further extreme. We'll know more when MKZ debuts, but you can already see the MKZ's fascia in the MKS. I don't know, I just want Lincoln to look more sophisticated and this isn't doing that. It's mostly an improvement over the existing design language...which I actually like on principle and I think the 2013 MKS has done it the best so far. Edited November 17, 2011 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Not liking this much. I see what they were trying to do, but I just don't think it works on the D3 body proportions. The squished grille now almost looks too small for the tall D3 front end. This application will likely work a lot better on the MKZ....at least I hope it does!! :unsure: I do somewhat prefer the new back end though, looks cleaner, albeit a little bloated. Edited November 17, 2011 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I just want Lincoln to look more sophisticated and this isn't doing that. That's your opinion. Mine is that the new changes DO make Lincoln look more sophisticated: this is doing that. Just compare the Cadillac and MB grilles, or the giant Audi trapezoid noses. The new Lincoln's makes them look over-worked and strident, lacking what I can only call "sophistication", in comparison. But it's all just opinion . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 The new grille looks too generic and dumbed down to me. If anything, it makes the car more mainstream and cheaper looking (well, at least below it's price point). I know it looks nothing like it, but I think Mitsubishi Galant when I see the front end of the MKS now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I know it looks nothing like it, but I think Mitsubishi Galant when I see the front end of the MKS now. Huh? Wasn't this the complaint of the LS back in the day too? This is what a 2012 Galant looks like: If anything, the Galant is channeling this styling now: I think people see split grill then automatically assume its Pontiac/Mitsubishi/etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Not liking this much. I see what they were trying to do, but I just don't think it works on the D3 body proportions. The squished grille now almost looks too small for the tall D3 front end. I have to agree with you on this one...I still like it though...its not that Horrible and an improvement upon the pasted on grill it had before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Huh? Wasn't this the complaint of the LS back in the day too?This is what a 2012 Galant looks like:If anything, the Galant is channeling this styling now:I think people see split grill then automatically assume its Pontiac/Mitsubishi/etc.... I had a feeling that would be misconstrued.... The new grille looks too generic and dumbed down to me. If anything, it makes the car more mainstream and cheaper looking (well, at least below it's price point). I know it looks nothing like it, but I think Mitsubishi Galant when I see the front end of the MKS now. I was speaking in terms of anonymity and being generic, not that they looked anything like each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I have to agree with you on this one...I still like it though...its not that Horrible and an improvement upon the pasted on grill it had before... Perhaps if the slats were still a tad wider as they were previously it would help some. With the tiny slits it reminds me of the plethora of cheap ass bolt-on "billet" grilles that adorn the fronts of many clapped out pickups, Mustangs, and 1990's Civics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Actually, when I saw the photo of the MKS as a thumbnail (100 meter test), I thought it was a Pontiac...uh oh! I wouldn't call the new MKS nose clip terrible, but it sure isn't as nice as the present generaion. The present one is very distinctive and tasteful. This one is very generic and looks like a Buick or whateveer to me. I can see Ford designers playing around with the lights and lower area of grille, but they should have pretty much left the split wing grille alone. Changing just to change is not a good idea unless the change is better. In this case, it wasn't. You can tell by all the negatives on here about it and I'm sure other auto online sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 I wouldn't call the new MKS nose clip terrible, but it sure isn't as nice as the present generaion. The present one is very distinctive and tasteful. This one is very generic and looks like a Buick or whateveer to me. I can see Ford designers playing around with the lights and lower area of grille, but they should have pretty much left the split wing grille alone. Changing just to change is not a good idea unless the change is better. In this case, it wasn't. You can tell by all the negatives on here about it and I'm sure other auto online sites. I still say you have to see the vehicle in person to judge, we are given very few photos of it. I'm still very pleased with the front-clip...I'm not so sure about the back-end...everybody seems to think it's an improvement but I think the balance is now way off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I quite like it, and I do think it will look better in "real world" photos and in person. It's a shame that the new nose is getting all the attention, as the interior looks absolutely gorgeous and the Lincoln Driver Control and Continuously Controlled Dampening are awesome new features. They may have screwed the pooch with the MKT (or, as Pioneer said, "woof"), but I think the MKS will do pretty well. It's nice to see Lincoln and Cadillac going head to head again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 They may have screwed the pooch with the MKT (or, as Pioneer said, "woof"), but I think the MKS will do pretty well. Short of major sheetmetal changes (not happening), the MKT is SOL..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) I quite like it, and I do think it will look better in "real world" photos and in person. It's a shame that the new nose is getting all the attention, as the interior looks absolutely gorgeous and the Lincoln Driver Control and Continuously Controlled Dampening are awesome new features. They may have screwed the pooch with the MKT (or, as Pioneer said, "woof"), but I think the MKS will do pretty well. It's nice to see Lincoln and Cadillac going head to head again... I don't think I can take Lincoln seriously in this match...they are way outclassed by the XTS, especially in interior and exterior design. This is another fight Lincoln is sure to loose to Caddy. Edited November 17, 2011 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I quite like it, and I do think it will look better in "real world" photos and in person. It's a shame that the new nose is getting all the attention, as the interior looks absolutely gorgeous and the Lincoln Driver Control and Continuously Controlled Dampening are awesome new features. They may have screwed the pooch with the MKT (or, as Pioneer said, "woof"), but I think the MKS will do pretty well. It's nice to see Lincoln and Cadillac going head to head again... Yes, after reading the full press release, Ford did do a very thorough job of revising the MKS and almost all of it was significant improvements whether it be drivetrain, suspension, or features. The rear trunk looks bigger also if not more assessible. It would be too bad if all the focus goes to front grille instead of all the significant improvements. And again, these are 2D photos. The vehicle has to be seen in person from all angles including sitting in it to fully appreciate the positives and negatives. Please note the fuel mileage improvements on base engine with a nice power bump. With the select shift trans, sport mode on new suspension system, and 300 hp, the new MKS can at least masquerade itself as a sport sedan. Something the present MKS in standard form can't do generic front nose or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Look at it this way - what did they have to lose by changing it? The current one wasn't burning up the sales charts so they didn't have much to lose. If something isn't working you have to change it. So while I do prefer the old front end I say let's wait and see what happens with sales. Remember - this is a throwaway vehicle at this point anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 The MKS makes the newly refined look work. The MKT? Not so much. My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfeg Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 The front leaves me cold. Headlamps and grille look rather generic to me with the only "style" being the bird beak dividing the grille. Side lines look good, but the back end looks a bit truncated. I do not see alot of difference in the rear, but the taillight arrangement still reminds me of the old Hyundai XG350. This would not get me into the showroom, but hopefully it will interest the target demographic groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Remember - this is a throwaway vehicle at this point anyway. The MKS fit that description since it first introduced in calendar year 2008. Nothing about either the original MKS or this latest iteration makes the model a real contender in the luxury car market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I absolutely hated it at first glance, but after looking at it from other angles, it's ok. Not great, just ok. The real news is all the chassis refinements. Maybe this one will actually drive like a premium car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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