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Sherminator98 Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Fiesta ST, a performance model first launched in Europe back in 2005, is yet another proof point from Ford that small cars are anything but boring. In addition to a precision sport-tuned suspension and an improved braking system, Fiesta ST packs a punch under the hood. A new high-output variant of the award-winning 1.6-liter EcoBoost® four-cylinder engine propels Fiesta ST with an estimated 197 horsepower and 214 lb.-ft. of torque. In comparison, Mini Cooper S makes do with 181 horsepower and 177 lb.-ft., while Chevrolet Sonic RS produces just 138 horsepower and 148 lb.-ft. Unlike the competition, Fiesta ST doesn’t simply look like a performance car; it’s got the guts to back it up. “This is a rewarding car to rev,” says Mark Roberts, Fiesta calibration supervisor. “With 177 lb.-ft. of torque available from just 1,600 rpm and 214 lb.-ft. by 3,500 rpm, Fiesta ST gives the performance and feel of an engine twice its size. There’s no waiting at all for the power to just push you back in your seat.” Fiesta ST may be born with racing DNA, but buyers won’t have to pay for that performance at the pump. Available exclusively as a five-door hatchback in North America and with a six-speed manual transmission, Fiesta ST is projected to achieve up to 34 mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 [/font][/color] theres my 200hp for all intents and purposes...like I said, out Cooper the Cooper for 6--8 k less = WINNER! Now, the only thing is for Ford Racing to out Works the Cooper Works.....go the extra mile Ford.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) That's a Fiesta RS Dean That been said, so happy! Pelvic thrust time!! Oh BTW, Did you see the 6.5" MFT screen and shiny Sony system set up? Less buttons and red equal win for me. Edited November 26, 2012 by Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 197 hp for Fiesta ST is impressive, and some are saying as high as 50mpg highway for I.0L EB. As for Fiesta ST, I saw one at NAIAS over 10 months ago. Click here: Ford unveils redesigned 2014 Fiesta models | Auto news | Detroit Free Press | freep.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Automobile says the ST could get as much as 34mpg... Sounds low. 50mpg for the 1.0EB? Sounds a bit high. Regardless, I'm still waiting for my 2.4L V6... And 4.0L V8 for that matter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Automobile says the ST could get as much as 34mpg... Sounds low. 50mpg for the 1.0EB? Sounds a bit high. Regardless, I'm still waiting for my 2.4L V6... And 4.0L V8 for that matter... they would be interesting in a Fiesta.......lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 That's a Fiesta RS Dean That been said, so happy! Pelvic thrust time!! Oh BTW, Did you see the 6.5" MFT screen and shiny Sony system set up? Less buttons and red equal win for me. very, VERY tempting....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MineralstangGT Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Is it mechanically different than the 1.6 in the Fusion or Escape? Or could the tweeks be applied to the regular 1.6 EB to get those numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Is it mechanically different than the 1.6 in the Fusion or Escape? Or could the tweeks be applied to the regular 1.6 EB to get those numbers? I would say different tuning and a tad more than just an ECU re-flash...cams?.....liken it to the F-150 3.5 eco and the SHO, flex etc....tuned differently along with packaging restrictions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 they would be interesting in a Fiesta.......lol lol, do you remember when ford shoehorned the 5.0 cammer into the focus? :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 lol, do you remember when ford shoehorned the 5.0 cammer into the focus? :D yup, and the Festiva SHO......that aside, isnt the V6 a 2.7?.......nano?... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) yup, and the Festiva SHO......that aside, isnt the V6 a 2.7?.......nano?... That all depends. I know they've tested 2.4-2.8L V6s, 3.2-4.0 V8s. The V6s are more likely to settle on the small side. The V8s are up in the air. That said, I know for a fact that the 2.4L V6s are capable of >300lbft @1700rpm. Edited November 27, 2012 by Versa-Tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Maybe SVT will get the OK to produce a water-cooled exhaust manifold for a 300 hp version, for an RS. FWIW, back in the early F-1 turbo era, they were getting 900+ hp out of a 1.6 BMW 4-cyl. So, with today's direct injection and VVT and computer management, 300 hp is not unreasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Maybe SVT will get the OK to produce a water-cooled exhaust manifold for a 300 hp version, for an RS. FWIW, back in the early F-1 turbo era, they were getting 900+ hp out of a 1.6 BMW 4-cyl. So, with today's direct injection and VVT and computer management, 300 hp is not unreasonable. To a FWD biased car, I don't think so. The Focus ST would be as far as I go with performance to a FWD vehicle. The last review I read in comparo to VW GTI said that Focus ST was mighty squirrely in 1st and 2nd gear and quite a steering handful to keep on road. In higher gear, it was fine though. 300hp in a Mustang is sublime, in a FWD vehicle it is a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 To a FWD biased car, I don't think so. The Focus ST would be as far as I go with performance to a FWD vehicle. The last review I read in comparo to VW GTI said that Focus ST was mighty squirrely in 1st and 2nd gear and quite a steering handful to keep on road. In higher gear, it was fine though. 300hp in a Mustang is sublime, in a FWD vehicle it is a pain. "mighty squirrely" is sorta relative, but point taken. Of course, with 300 hp, using RevoKnuckle geometry hardware seems like a cool idea, as it worked so well with the Focus RS, according to people who actually drove them, including tuner versions crowding 400 hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 "mighty squirrely" is sorta relative, but point taken. Of course, with 300 hp, using RevoKnuckle geometry hardware seems like a cool idea, as it worked so well with the Focus RS, according to people who actually drove them, including tuner versions crowding 400 hp. Certainly electric steering with sensors helps also, but FWD still offers challenges in straight line while RWD offers no steering challenges in straight line when one hand is shifting meaning only one hand on wheel. With RWD high performance car, going into tight corner is challenged steering, but both hands can be on steering wheel to deal with g forces and any sliding. Then coming out of corner, accelerating hard means a little steering wheel relaxation until next corner with RWD. With FWD high performance, it's a constant battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) "mighty squirrely" is sorta relative, but point taken. Of course, with 300 hp, using RevoKnuckle geometry hardware seems like a cool idea, as it worked so well with the Focus RS, according to people who actually drove them, including tuner versions crowding 400 hp. Today's automotive press doesn't know the meaning of squirrely. My father raced Group B cars, and he used to tell me "Pivot before the bend. If she breaks, throttle 'till the end." Edited November 27, 2012 by Versa-Tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'd like to know where they got this squirrelly from when it comes to the ST...I had no issues what so ever with the ones I drove. I had some, torque steer in my SVT Focus when I had it (even had it in my 110 hp Escort GT lol) and the ST was the best FWD car I've ever driven... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The Fiesta could definitely use an image booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Is it mechanically different than the 1.6 in the Fusion or Escape? Or could the tweeks be applied to the regular 1.6 EB to get those numbers? 93 octane. and less mass to move Equals greater ablity to load the engine. BTW 34mpg, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 93 octane But the Focus ST puts out the same power using 87 octane IIRC then 93...I don't see Ford requiring 93 for the Festia ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 In a car like a Lexus or Lincoln, torque steer is a definite no-no. But in a hot-hatch kind of car, I think some torque steer is acceptable, within reason. It adds some drama and forces the driver to feel like they are really involved in the driving the car. It is kind of the FWD equivalent to power oversteer in a RWD sports car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenCaylor Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 But the Focus ST puts out the same power using 87 octane IIRC then 93...I don't see Ford requiring 93 for the Festia ST But the Focus ST puts out the same power using 87 octane IIRC then 93...I don't see Ford requiring 93 for the Festia ST How can you "require" a fuel that isn't even available in most of the country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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