rmc523 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, jpd80 said: Re F550 vs F600, vs F650, combined F550/F600 were over 5000 sales last month, I vaguely remember that figure for class 5 in better times. No, the source doesn‘t have GM figures at they still report quarterly, from what I’ve seen, about half F650/F750 sales…. This was the September quarterly update/comparison. I don't have breakdowns though. Q3 numbers on the left, YTD on the right. Edited December 29, 2021 by rmc523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 hours ago, rmc523 said: This was the September quarterly update/comparison. I don't have breakdowns though. Q3 numbers on the left, YTD on the right. Both companies are hit and miss with production this year, I think Ford produced less that 1,000 MDs in November. Perhaps 60-65% of Ford’s sales is a more accurate assessment… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I figure production of the Silverado Medium Duty and the International CV is probably a 50-50 split between GM and Navistar, so actual production of those trucks is probably double what GM posts. Also keep in mind these trucks represent class 4 through 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, 7Mary3 said: I figure production of the Silverado Medium Duty and the International CV is probably a 50-50 split between GM and Navistar, so actual production of those trucks is probably double what GM posts. Also keep in mind these trucks represent class 4 through 6. I not sure it does because GM splits out its LD, HD and MD truck sales in its quarterly sales figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 GM announced today that they will have a fully electric Silverado HD on the market by 2035. They already announced an electric medium duty. Does Ford have plans for an electric Super Duty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 48 minutes ago, 7Mary3 said: GM announced today that they will have a fully electric Silverado HD on the market by 2035. They already announced an electric medium duty. Does Ford have plans for an electric Super Duty? Yes it’s part of the blue oval city plan and coming soon not 2035. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Good, I was hoping this information was wrong: https://www.motor1.com/news/550700/ford-no-electric-super-duty/ https://insideevs.com/news/550764/ford-superduty-lightning-not-planned/ Edited January 7, 2022 by 7Mary3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, 7Mary3 said: Good, I was hoping this information was wrong: https://www.motor1.com/news/550700/ford-no-electric-super-duty/ https://insideevs.com/news/550764/ford-superduty-lightning-not-planned/ Ford’s press release said blue oval city would be building F series pickups (not F150). So I think what they’re saying is they won’t be doing a super duty version of the current Lightning platform. But it should come at some point on the next Gen platform especially considering the volume they expect out of blue oval city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, akirby said: Ford’s press release said blue oval city would be building F series pickups (not F150). So I think what they’re saying is they won’t be doing a super duty version of the current Lightning platform. But it should come at some point on the next Gen platform especially considering the volume they expect out of blue oval city. I took the Blue Oval City announcement to mean they eventually would build electric versions of the next generation F-150 but not the current version (Lightning). The Super Duty has not been mentioned in any press release regarding Blue Oval City yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, 7Mary3 said: I took the Blue Oval City announcement to mean they eventually would build electric versions of the next generation F-150 but not the current version (Lightning). The Super Duty has not been mentioned in any press release regarding Blue Oval City yet. In the meantime, perhaps some Super Duty models could get something like hybrid/PHEV set up to assist with fuel economy Edited January 8, 2022 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 8 hours ago, 7Mary3 said: I took the Blue Oval City announcement to mean they eventually would build electric versions of the next generation F-150 but not the current version (Lightning). The Super Duty has not been mentioned in any press release regarding Blue Oval City yet. But the article specifically references F150 Lightning but then says blue oval city would build next Gen F series. Why would they say F series if it was truly just F150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 hours ago, akirby said: But the article specifically references F150 Lightning but then says blue oval city would build next Gen F series. Why would they say F series if it was truly just F150? Good question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 13 hours ago, akirby said: But the article specifically references F150 Lightning but then says blue oval city would build next Gen F series. Why would they say F series if it was truly just F150? I wouldn’t read too much into that, it’s just the way Ford talks about its pickup plants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Here is the new JMC cabover from those spy shots a few weeks ago: http://www.360che.com/tech/220107/168709.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 13 hours ago, ausrutherford said: Here is the new JMC cabover from those spy shots a few weeks ago: http://www.360che.com/tech/220107/168709.html It looks like it has a clutch pedal too. Apparently the slushbox wave has not reached China yet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Manual is still really common in commercial vehicles in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Why are Transit sales down 20% and Ram Promaster is up 40%? They dumping them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) On 1/8/2022 at 8:53 PM, ausrutherford said: Here is the new JMC cabover from those spy shots a few weeks ago: http://www.360che.com/tech/220107/168709.html Ford should just bring that to the NA market, put a Blue Oval on the nose, name it "C-Series" and call it a day. Edited January 19, 2022 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I suspect Isuzu would not be amused... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, twintornados said: Ford should just bring that to the NA market, put a Blue Oval on the nose, name it "C-Series" and call it a day. No EPA or CARB compliant drivetrain options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Joe771476 said: Why are Transit sales down 20% and Ram Promaster is up 40%? They dumping them? I presume chip limitations for Transit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I presume chip limitations for Transit. As well as huge numbers going to Amazon?-of Rams that is. I know others have posted they have seen Transits in Prime colors but at least around here the fleet appears to be 100% Dodge/Fiat/ Ram/Stellantis-pick a name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, bzcat said: No EPA or CARB compliant drivetrain options Bring it in as a glider and power it with NA powertrains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: As well as huge numbers going to Amazon?-of Rams that is. I know others have posted they have seen Transits in Prime colors but at least around here the fleet appears to be 100% Dodge/Fiat/ Ram/Stellantis-pick a name? I would say around me it's close to a 50/50 split between Transit and Promaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 hours ago, rmc523 said: I presume chip limitations for Transit. Potentially, but more likely it is just timing of fleet delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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