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1 hour ago, Joe771476 said:

I send the link from my Google email to my AOL email, read it, then drag the link into the body of this thread. So far, there's been no problem. If I inserted the wrong link regarding a topic, I apologize. But you should know I have a cataract in my right eye, and a Rincoln Town Car in the other! The articles are from bona fide sources or from youtube. And that "10 yr. abuse" article was quite a while ago I thought. Anyway.


I'll try again.  After you click on the google link and it opens in a browser window, copy the URL from the browser and paste that here instead.

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On 7/18/2026 at 9:20 AM, Sherminator98 said:

 

Exactly my point:
 


Your link to the article is this:
https://share.google/q2yZF3n25ks1eAXOJ

When it should be 
https://www.autoblog.com/news/ford-condenses-10-years-of-truck-abuse-into-just-four-months

 

People have no clue what they are clicking when you use share.google/ link-for all I know I'm clicking into a malware link-this is computer safety/cybersecurity 101 

 

Yeah, I mentioned this a while back too.....

 

On 7/18/2026 at 8:08 PM, Joe771476 said:

I send the link from my Google email to my AOL email, read it, then drag the link into the body of this thread. So far, there's been no problem. If I inserted the wrong link regarding a topic, I apologize. But you should know I have a cataract in my right eye, and a Rincoln Town Car in the other! The articles are from bona fide sources or from youtube. And that "10 yr. abuse" article was quite a while ago I thought. Anyway.

 

It's not that it's not a legit article you're linking to, it's that the link itself looks fishy and makes people hesitant to click on it.

 

I don't even click on your links because they look shady, so I'd rather not risk it.

 

Also, don't understand why you go from one email to another instead of just opening it?  lol

 

Open the article, and copy the URL from the website.  Not hard lol.

 

Select it, right click, copy.....or CTRL+C to copy, then CTRL+V to paste.

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2 hours ago, rmc523 said:

 

Yeah, I mentioned this a while back too.....

 

 

It's not that it's not a legit article you're linking to, it's that the link itself looks fishy and makes people hesitant to click on it.

 

I don't even click on your links because they look shady, so I'd rather not risk it.

 

Also, don't understand why you go from one email to another instead of just opening it?  lol

 

Open the article, and copy the URL from the website.  Not hard lol.

 

Select it, right click, copy.....or CTRL+C to copy, then CTRL+V to paste.

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2 hours ago, rmc523 said:

 

Yeah, I mentioned this a while back too.....

 

 

It's not that it's not a legit article you're linking to, it's that the link itself looks fishy and makes people hesitant to click on it.

 

I don't even click on your links because they look shady, so I'd rather not risk it.

 

Also, don't understand why you go from one email to another instead of just opening it?  lol

 

Open the article, and copy the URL from the website.  Not hard lol.

 

Select it, right click, copy.....or CTRL+C to copy, then CTRL+V to paste.

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Yes I know the various ways. I know how to copy and paste. The link dragging is just as easy. As I said, most of them are from youtube. I'm not always in here when I view the videos. So I send them to my email so I can insert them LATER.  I don't know what is so hard about it. It's not rocket science.

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8 hours ago, rmc523 said:

 

I didn't realize it was that large either.

 

i just assumed it was basically a Rivian size-wise.

 

Rivian R1T is 4" longer than Tacoma (the biggest midsize truck) and 4" shorter than Nissan Titan crew cab (the smallest fullsize truck). It was a deliberate "split the difference" strategy to compete in both segments.

 

VW is going straight for fullsize truck... I think that is a conscious choice as well to differentiate itself from Rivian. The original International pickup from 1940 to 1975 was a competitor to the Big 3 fullsize trucks.

 

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12 hours ago, 7Mary3 said:

I find the new Scout very interesting, but given the current turmoil at VAG there is a good chance that this thing may not happen. 

 

Given how the market is, it would be downright stupid for VW to kill it off in the NA market. VW is struggling here as it is and VW products barely make a dent market share currently vs 20 years ago. 

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1 hour ago, Sherminator98 said:

 

Given how the market is, it would be downright stupid for VW to kill it off in the NA market. VW is struggling here as it is and VW products barely make a dent market share currently vs 20 years ago. 

 

As in you think they should still move forward with it?

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I think if the Scout was offered as a conventional ICE with a hybrid option, and was sold through a conventional dealer (even if it was VW) it might have a chance.  But, it appears the Scout will be a BEV primarily with a hybrid option, and will be sold direct from the manufacturer (a la Tesla).  Given VW's penchant for for screwing things up royally what could possibly go right?  I still can't figure out how they screwed up the I D Buzz...

 

 

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On 7/21/2026 at 3:25 PM, twintornados said:

 

And we see how well that worked out....

 

You know IH completely redesigned the chassis of the light duty trucks in 1975 to accommodate their new 'big block' MV 404 and 446 V-8's.  The MV's were not ready in '75 but were sheduled for '76.  Halfway through the '75 model year IH gave up on the light trucks and Travelalls.  The MV V-8's had nowhere to go, IH began to offer them in some of their medium duty trucks and sold a handful to Dodge for motorhome chassis.  As it turned out the debacle turned into a win for Ford, IH modified the MV gas V-8 into the 6.9L diesel and was finally able to make some money off that substantial tooling investment.  

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10 hours ago, 7Mary3 said:

I think if the Scout was offered as a conventional ICE with a hybrid option, and was sold through a conventional dealer (even if it was VW) it might have a chance.  But, it appears the Scout will be a BEV primarily with a hybrid option, and will be sold direct from the manufacturer (a la Tesla).  Given VW's penchant for for screwing things up royally what could possibly go right?  I still can't figure out how they screwed up the I D Buzz...

 

 

Five year gestation and several price increases and postponements before debut, for a vehicle segment that was limited in popularity in North America

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6 minutes ago, Motorpsychology said:

Five year gestation and several price increases and postponements before debut, for a vehicle segment that was limited in popularity in North America

 

That is the biggest issue EVs have-they cost way too much for the vast majority of drivers and the resale value goes into toliet. The buzz was cool looking but not worth 70-80K. If it was $40K it would have sold much better. 

 

Hopefully the next gen affordable EVs turns around their image they have. 

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22 hours ago, Sherminator98 said:

Yes..not sure if it will make them money, but it will be more appealing then their lineup they have now. 

Hah interesting comment when I do believe you are all over me when I make a case for Ford doing more with class 6 and 7.😎

 

In any case, I think some thought this was a great idea to capitalize on the Scout heritage.  But how many people out there have any clue what a "Scout" was and its heritage, beside the serious 4 x 4 crowd.  The greater population today?-- probably no clue.

 

Just  an aside though on International Harvester-just thinking about what it cost them to come out with that vehicle.  They took their 308 V-8, cut it in half and had a 154 cu in, four banger.  Think of the other "regulation" they had to deal with- nothing close to what a manufacturer would have to deal with today?

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13 hours ago, 7Mary3 said:

I think if the Scout was offered as a conventional ICE with a hybrid option, and was sold through a conventional dealer (even if it was VW) it might have a chance.  But, it appears the Scout will be a BEV primarily with a hybrid option, and will be sold direct from the manufacturer (a la Tesla).  Given VW's penchant for for screwing things up royally what could possibly go right?  I still can't figure out how they screwed up the I D Buzz...

 

 

 

Not much to figure out......it costs way too much for what it is, and is controversial looking to begin with, with its target market (old bus lovers) aging.

 

I wouldn't ever buy one, but the design is certainly better than the bus.

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50 minutes ago, Bob Rosadini said:

Hah interesting comment when I do believe you are all over me when I make a case for Ford doing more with class 6 and 7.😎

 

In any case, I think some thought this was a great idea to capitalize on the Scout heritage.  But how many people out there have any clue what a "Scout" was and its heritage, beside the serious 4 x 4 crowd.  The greater population today?-- probably no clue.

 

I don't know how long it would take them to make money on the Scout project, but it is their most compelling product that they are planning on doing. I don't see a new Golf/GTI setting the world on fire with all the competition in that market.

As for the market-it looks like the off road market interest is rising-even if they never leave the pavement when people buy them:

Americans Are More Interested In Off-Roading Than Ever, Survey Finds

 

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64% of Americans want to take an off-road adventure (up from 34% last year).

74% of Gen Z respondents are interested in off-roading.

72% of millennials say they'd like to venture off the pavement.

57% of Gen X and 42% of baby boomers share that interest.

 

The info for that article came from here

Hankook Tire Gauge Index Reveals Rising Off-Road Interest Across U.S.

 

So maybe Ford is right for leaning into the Bronco and maybe an offroad supercar/Mustang at some point?! 

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20 hours ago, Sherminator98 said:

 

I don't know how long it would take them to make money on the Scout project, but it is their most compelling product that they are planning on doing. I don't see a new Golf/GTI setting the world on fire with all the competition in that market.

As for the market-it looks like the off road market interest is rising-even if they never leave the pavement when people buy them:

Americans Are More Interested In Off-Roading Than Ever, Survey Finds

 

 

The info for that article came from here

Hankook Tire Gauge Index Reveals Rising Off-Road Interest Across U.S.

 

So maybe Ford is right for leaning into the Bronco and maybe an offroad supercar/Mustang at some point?! 

"Interested" and "would like to" aren't the same as, "have been off road." I think it's more "Capability Envy;" Mine's higher than yours. The folks that actually take their Sasquatches or Raptors to an offroad park or 4wd trail are a small percentage of the ownership. I take my Ranger FX4 on some BIA and US Forestry roads in northern MN and WI, and while there are a few sections where 4WD or AWD is helpful, they could be driven in an Escape. 

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1 hour ago, Motorpsychology said:

"Interested" and "would like to" aren't the same as, "have been off road." I think it's more "Capability Envy;" Mine's higher than yours. The folks that actually take their Sasquatches or Raptors to an offroad park or 4wd trail are a small percentage of the ownership. I take my Ranger FX4 on some BIA and US Forestry roads in northern MN and WI, and while there are a few sections where 4WD or AWD is helpful, they could be driven in an Escape. 

 

Right but there is an interest there, more so then hey I need to a car to get to point A to B. 

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